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sorta OT: Knoppix to access linux
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| Gwen Morse 2004-09-15, 11:11 am |
| I'd like to use Knoppix to access my FC2 install. I know I can burn it
on CD, but, I was wondering if it was possible to (somehow) run
Knoppix off an iso on my hard drive?
I know you can install Fedora using the iso's, without using a boot
disk.
Is it possible to then mount the Knoppix iso and run it, putting you
in the Knoppix environment without having to carry the CD around?
In case my question isn't clear, here's the directions for the Fedora
install:
http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/ar....php/t-287.html
What I'd like to know is if I can copy the kernel files over, use the
mount command, etc, and then run Knoppix on my laptop, without
actually using a CD?
Gwen
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| Paul Lutus 2004-09-15, 11:11 am |
| Gwen Morse wrote:
> I'd like to use Knoppix to access my FC2 install. I know I can burn it
> on CD, but, I was wondering if it was possible to (somehow) run
> Knoppix off an iso on my hard drive?
Yes, but to do so, you would first have to boot FC2, which sounds as though
it would defeal the purpose. BTW what is the purpose?
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> I know you can install Fedora using the iso's, without using a boot
> disk.
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> Is it possible to then mount the Knoppix iso and run it, putting you
> in the Knoppix environment without having to carry the CD around?
>
> In case my question isn't clear, here's the directions for the Fedora
> install:
> http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/ar....php/t-287.html
>
> What I'd like to know is if I can copy the kernel files over, use the
> mount command, etc, and then run Knoppix on my laptop, without
> actually using a CD?
Please tell us why you need to do this.
--
Paul Lutus
http://www.arachnoid.com
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| Gwen Morse 2004-09-23, 9:31 am |
| On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 22:38:48 -0700, Paul Lutus <nospam@nosite.zzz>
wrote:
>Gwen Morse wrote:
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>Yes, but to do so, you would first have to boot FC2, which sounds as though
>it would defeal the purpose. BTW what is the purpose?
Okay, I'll 'splain  .
I have a tendency to do catastrophic things to my linux installs. I
just recovered from deleting my modprobe.conf[.dist] files, for
example.
What I would like to be able to do is effectively have a "rescue disk"
environment permanently installed on my laptop, so that as long as
_grub_ is working, I can boot into said rescue environment instead of
the base Fedora.
Knoppix seems like it would be a good choice for this (it fits on a
single cd, it's designed to run completely from memory, etc).
I do have a physical rescue cd that I usually carry around with me,
but, I was hoping it was possible to install something on the laptop.
I don't want to mess up my partitions and resize things to fit a
separate install (although that might be the real solution). I was
just thinking if it's possible to load the Knoppix ISO, it would
simulate setting up a separate partition and install.
Gwen
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| Paul Lutus 2004-09-23, 9:31 am |
| Gwen Morse wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 22:38:48 -0700, Paul Lutus <nospam@nosite.zzz>
> wrote:
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> Okay, I'll 'splain .
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> I have a tendency to do catastrophic things to my linux installs. I
> just recovered from deleting my modprobe.conf[.dist] files, for
> example.
The solution is simple. Don't be root. Use "sudo", carefully, and do not log
on as root.
--
Paul Lutus
http://www.arachnoid.com
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| Gwen Morse 2004-09-23, 9:31 am |
| On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 22:57:25 -0700, Paul Lutus <nospam@nosite.zzz>
wrote:
>Gwen Morse wrote:
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>The solution is simple. Don't be root. Use "sudo", carefully, and do not log
>on as root.
I answered your question, now, instead of patronizing me, why don't
you answer mine?
Which is...if it's possible (and if so, "how") to mount a Knoppix ISO
off a directory on my laptop instead of running Knoppix off a physical
cd.
Gwen
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| Paul Lutus 2004-09-23, 9:31 am |
| Gwen Morse wrote:
/ ...
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> I answered your question, now, instead of patronizing me, why don't
> you answer mine?
My reply wasn't patronizing in the least (it would have been if you were not
someone who needs to stop logging on as root) and it is the only meaningful
answer to your question.
> Which is...if it's possible (and if so, "how") to mount a Knoppix ISO
> off a directory on my laptop instead of running Knoppix off a physical
> cd.
Sure, you can do this, but first, you have to boot the laptop into the
installed distribution, which leads one to ask, what is the point?
--
Paul Lutus
http://www.arachnoid.com
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| Scott Lurndal 2004-09-23, 9:31 am |
| Gwen Morse <goldmooneachna@yahoo.com> writes:
>Knoppix seems like it would be a good choice for this (it fits on a
>single cd, it's designed to run completely from memory, etc).
It doesn't really run completely from memory, however. It fetches
commands and libraries as necessary from the CDROM.
>I don't want to mess up my partitions and resize things to fit a
>separate install (although that might be the real solution). I was
>just thinking if it's possible to load the Knoppix ISO, it would
>simulate setting up a separate partition and install.
It would be relying on the very thing you can't rely on in a
recovery situation - the filesystem containing the ISO may be
corrupt, bad or inaccessible (say because the modules.conf was removed :-).
scott
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| Gwen Morse 2004-09-23, 9:31 am |
| On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:38:35 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:
>Gwen Morse <goldmooneachna@yahoo.com> writes:
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>It doesn't really run completely from memory, however. It fetches
>commands and libraries as necessary from the CDROM.
Yes, true. I meant it doesn't write to your hard drive. So, anything
that would normally involve writing to your drives to "customize"
linux is instead saved in memory.
Of course, you didn't know what I was _thinking_, only what I said.
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>It would be relying on the very thing you can't rely on in a
>recovery situation - the filesystem containing the ISO may be
>corrupt, bad or inaccessible (say because the modules.conf was removed :-).
*laughs*. Okay, so, that _won't_ work.
I suppose that means continuing to cart my rescue disk around. I have
at least gotten much better at playing with the system and not blowing
everything up. And, I've learned so much in the process of doing all
this damage and having to fix it.
Thanks for the response. It was very helpful, even if to just say "No,
you can't do that".
Gwen
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