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2005-10-24, 9:35 am

I am running fedora2 using grub to start
How do I start a failsafe terminal from grub menu.lst?
Thanks for any help.
Herb

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Jean-David Beyer

2005-10-24, 9:35 am

hernix2@sverige.freeshell.org wrote:
> I am running fedora2 using grub to start
> How do I start a failsafe terminal from grub menu.lst?
> Thanks for any help.
> Herb
>

And what, pray tell, might a _failsafe_ terminal be?
Since all terminals designed, built, and operate by man are subject to
failure, you must be using a definition of _failsafe_ of which I have never
heard.

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2005-10-24, 9:35 am

Jean-David Beyer <jdbeyer@exit109.com> wrote:
> hernix2@sverige.freeshell.org wrote:
> And what, pray tell, might a _failsafe_ terminal be?
> Since all terminals designed, built, and operate by man are subject to
> failure, you must be using a definition of _failsafe_ of which I have never
> heard.


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The FD2 login window has a Failsafe Terminal icon to click for
an xterm window.
If I click that icon before login I can get an old fashioned X window
with a small xterm in the lower right corner of the screen.
I can run more xterms and Xstuff with .Xdefault.
I would like this setup to be a choice from my grub menu.lst but
don't know what to add to the kernal line to get it.
If I add <3> for runlevel 3 to the line I can get a login terminal but when I
type startx I get the full GNOME setup.
I want to be able to play with the old X stuff.
Thanks,
Herb

Jean-David Beyer

2005-10-24, 9:35 am

hernix2@sverige.freeshell.org wrote:
> Jean-David Beyer <jdbeyer@exit109.com> wrote:
>
>


Putting your reply in your signature is sure a strange way of doing things.
Also, you might have deleted mine from your reply.
Anyhow, here is part of your signature:

> The FD2 login window has a Failsafe Terminal icon to click for
> an xterm window.


I do not remember this when I ran FC2 for a few days.

> If I click that icon before login I can get an old fashioned X window
> with a small xterm in the lower right corner of the screen.


I just hit Control-Alt-PF[-6] when I want a virtual console (CLI).

What do you mean by "old fashioned X window"? If I login to the system, I
get the whole X window system, GNOME and metacity to run the desktop. Others
configure to get KDE, or any other window manager and desktop they prefer.

Do you have to login with that xtern window?

> I can run more xterms and Xstuff with .Xdefault.
> I would like this setup to be a choice from my grub menu.lst but
> don't know what to add to the kernal line to get it.
> If I add <3> for runlevel 3 to the line I can get a login terminal but when I
> type startx I get the full GNOME setup.
> I want to be able to play with the old X stuff.


I still do not know what you mean by "the old X stuff." Do you mean you do
not want KDE or GNOME?

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Some Other Somebody Else

2005-10-24, 9:35 am

Actually, BION, FWIW, there *is* an option in kdm's menu - I don't
know offhand if gdm offers it - under "session type" or something like
that, alongside KDE, Gnome, and whatever other window managers are
available, something called "failsafe", which appears to be just a
little xterm running instead of a full window manager. You can run X
apps from its command line, but you don't get any fancy window
management features like KDE or gnome would offer. I don't know
whether there is a way to boot straight to it from grub - I would
guess that if you set up your display manager (e.g. kdm or gdm) to
automatically log in a default user, and set that user's default
session type to "failsafe", you could boot to that, but I think you'd
have to change more than grub's configuration to make that a whole
separate boot option, maybe change something in some init script, and
I could probably fugde a kludge but maybe someone else knows of a
relatively elegant way to do it....
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