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X windows client for windows
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| Does anyone know of a xwindows client (preferably free) I can run on MS
windows?
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| Kill Bill 2005-01-31, 5:45 pm |
| Starr wrote:
> Does anyone know of a xwindows client (preferably free) I can run on MS
> windows?
You probably meant an X *server* for Windows.
There are good ones, yet free:
Cygwin/X, check http://x.cygwin.com/ for details;
Xming, check http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Xming for details;
WeirdX, check http://www.jcraft.com/weirdx/index.html for details;
Those are all open-sourced software.
HTH,
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everyone knows M$ Windows NT/2K/XP/Whatever is a *real* innovation.
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"Kill Bill" <xbill@msn.com> wrote in message
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> Starr wrote:
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> You probably meant an X *server* for Windows.
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> There are good ones, yet free:
Cool but what I'm after is to be able to start an x session on my client
machine connected to my linux box which will let me run X on my client as if
I was doing it on the server. If such a thing exists.
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| Rincewind 2005-01-31, 5:45 pm |
| On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:25:16 +0000, Starr mumbled something like this:
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> "Kill Bill" <xbill@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:ctlrtq$fnm$1@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk...
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> Cool but what I'm after is to be able to start an x session on my client
> machine connected to my linux box which will let me run X on my client as
> if I was doing it on the server. If such a thing exists.
Yes, it's called an X *server* as Kill Bill said. It works like this:
1. Start the X server on the Windows machine
2. Use putty or similar to log onto your linux machine via ssh
3. Once logged on, type(case is important):
DISPLAY=<ip_of_your_windows_machine>:0
export DISPLAY
4. Start your X app - e.g. type:
mozilla
5. mozilla will start on your windows desktop, but will be running on your
linux box.
Alternatively, you could use a version of VNC, which will give you a
complete KDE or Gnome Desktop in a window on your windows machine. Works
quite well, but is slower than the first method IMHO.
Rinso
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"Rincewind" <rinso@unseen.edu> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:25:16 +0000, Starr mumbled something like this:
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> Yes, it's called an X *server* as Kill Bill said. It works like this:
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> 1. Start the X server on the Windows machine
> 2. Use putty or similar to log onto your linux machine via ssh
> 3. Once logged on, type(case is important):
> DISPLAY=<ip_of_your_windows_machine>:0
> export DISPLAY
> 4. Start your X app - e.g. type:
> mozilla
> 5. mozilla will start on your windows desktop, but will be running on your
> linux box.
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I tried that and I got this
[root@p3450 root]# xclock
Xlib: connection to "10.0.0.2:0.0" refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified
Error: Can't open display: 10.0.0.2:0
[root@p3450 root]#
> Alternatively, you could use a version of VNC, which will give you a
> complete KDE or Gnome Desktop in a window on your windows machine. Works
> quite well, but is slower than the first method IMHO.
I'll give that a go too. 
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| Rincewind 2005-01-31, 5:45 pm |
| On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 20:48:20 +0000, Starr mumbled something like this:
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> "Rincewind" <rinso@unseen.edu> wrote in message
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> I tried that and I got this
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> [root@p3450 root]# xclock
> Xlib: connection to "10.0.0.2:0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol
> specified
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> Error: Can't open display: 10.0.0.2:0 [root@p3450 root]#
You would get that error if there was no X server running on the windows
machine or if it had a different display number than :0, but the windows
X servers usually default to :0.
Which X server did you install on the windows machine?
Just a thought... is there a firewall running on the windows machine? If
so, you will need to allow ports 6000 - 6010 or possibly 6000 - 6064 from
your linux machine through it for X to work! Blocking these ports would
also generate an error.
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> I'll give that a go too.
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"Rincewind" <rinso@unseen.edu> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 20:48:20 +0000, Starr mumbled something like this:
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> You would get that error if there was no X server running on the windows
> machine or if it had a different display number than :0, but the windows
> X servers usually default to :0.
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> Which X server did you install on the windows machine?
Xming
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> Just a thought... is there a firewall running on the windows machine? If
> so, you will need to allow ports 6000 - 6010 or possibly 6000 - 6064 from
> your linux machine through it for X to work! Blocking these ports would
> also generate an error.
Indeed. I shut down the firewall on bot my windows machine and my linux box
but it made no difference. 
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| Starr wrote:
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> "Rincewind" <rinso@unseen.edu> wrote in message
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You also need to issue the xhost command on the X server (10.0.0.2 in this
case), to allow other clients to connect. No idea how you'd do this with
Xming though.
Pete
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"John Thompson" <john@starfleet.os2.dhs.org> wrote in message
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> On 2005-02-01, Starr <Starr@proxima.net> wrote:
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> If your linux machine uses a graphical display manager for logging in, you
> can try this:
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> Install Cygwin, with the X.org packages for the X server. Open a Cygwin
> shell and type "X -query [linux.machine.address] -once" and you should get
> the graphic login widget for the linux machine. For there you can log in
> and use your linux desktop just as if you were sitting at the linux
> machine.
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No it's a text login but its worth a thought.
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> -John (john@os2.dhs.org)
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| Ivan Marsh 2005-02-02, 5:45 pm |
| On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 18:00:30 +0000, Kill Bill wrote:
> Starr wrote:
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> You probably meant an X *server* for Windows.
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> There are good ones, yet free:
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> Cygwin/X, check http://x.cygwin.com/ for details;
> Xming, check http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Xming for details;
> WeirdX, check http://www.jcraft.com/weirdx/index.html for details;
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> Those are all open-sourced software.
I've been using cygwinx (happily) for quite a while and thought I'd try
xming since it's smaller.
xming's performance leaves much to be desired. It turned my scroll mouse
into a 'wait a second or two then jump up and down until the buffer is
empty" mouse. Your mileage may vary.
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Life is short, but wide. -KV
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| Scott Lurndal 2005-02-03, 5:45 pm |
| John Thompson <john@starfleet.os2.dhs.org> writes:
>On 2005-02-01, Starr <Starr@proxima.net> wrote:
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>If your linux machine uses a graphical display manager for logging in, you
>can try this:
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>Install Cygwin, with the X.org packages for the X server. Open a Cygwin
>shell and type "X -query [linux.machine.address] -once" and you should get
>the graphic login widget for the linux machine. For there you can log in
>and use your linux desktop just as if you were sitting at the linux
>machine.
>
For this to work with redhat releases, you'll need to tell the
graphical login daemon (gdm, xdm, kdm) to accept external
connections. For xdm, the files are in /usr/lib/X11/xdm.
You specify your login daemon via /etc/sysconfig/desktop.
scott
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"Scott Lurndal" <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote in message
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> John Thompson <john@starfleet.os2.dhs.org> writes:
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> For this to work with redhat releases, you'll need to tell the
> graphical login daemon (gdm, xdm, kdm) to accept external
> connections. For xdm, the files are in /usr/lib/X11/xdm.
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> You specify your login daemon via /etc/sysconfig/desktop.
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> scott
The linux box uses a text logon.
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| Rincewind 2005-02-04, 7:45 am |
| On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 11:43:50 +0000, Starr mumbled something like this:
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> "Rincewind" <rinso@unseen.edu> wrote in message
> news:pan.2005.01.31.23.01.41.640451@unseen.edu...
> Xming
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> Indeed. I shut down the firewall on bot my windows machine and my linux
> box but it made no difference.
I've been away for a few days, but here's a bit more info on my own setup:
The X server I use on Windows XP is X-Win32 (http://www.starnet.com). I do
not use X11 forwarding in my putty ssh connection; I have found that this
does not work with X-Win32 like it does with linux to linux(or I'm doing
it wrong). So I use the DISPLAY variable to tell linux where to display.
You can see a screenshot of gedit running on my XP desktop along with a
putty window showing the commands executed on the linux box to get to that
state:
http://www.djmsoft.no-ip.com/public/images/X11-01.jpg
The free, evaluation version of X-Win32 can be used for 30 mins at a time
for as many times as you like. This may be sufficient for your needs.
rinso
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| Scott Lurndal 2005-02-04, 5:45 pm |
| "Starr" <Starr@proxima.net> writes:
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>"Scott Lurndal" <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote in message
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>The linux box uses a text logon.
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That doesn't preclude you from running xdm to serve remote
X-Terminals or Cygwin X-servers. man xdm for more info
on how to configure it for remote terminals. Just turn off
the entry for :0.
scott
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