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Bill

2005-03-06, 5:45 pm

Hello Group ...

Are any of the applications on FC3 to be used for WEB page design, or is
there something else available(open source) that is more appropriate?
(versatile and user friendly)

Thanks,
Bill
Rincewind

2005-03-06, 5:45 pm

On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 21:34:49 +0000, Bill mumbled something like this:

> Hello Group ...
>
> Are any of the applications on FC3 to be used for WEB page design, or is
> there something else available(open source) that is more appropriate?
> (versatile and user friendly)
>
> Thanks,
> Bill


There's Quanta Plus. It's not Dreamweaver, but it's quite usable.

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bill

2005-03-06, 8:45 pm

Rincewind wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 21:34:49 +0000, Bill mumbled something like this:
>
>
>
>
> There's Quanta Plus. It's not Dreamweaver, but it's quite usable.
>

Thanks Rinso ...

I downloaded Quanta Plus 3.3.2 and launched it, but It wants Tidy(HTML
syntax checking) installed to be fully functional. In checking
sourceforge, there seems to be many versions(and lots of old ones too)
of Tidy but none i can tell specifically for FC3. They have projects
listed for HTML, Java, PERL XS, Python wrapper, HTML Trim, XHTML/XML and
Jase. Will all these work with FC3.

So for HTML syntax checking, would it be HTML, HTML Trim, XHTML/XML and
Jase out of the projects listed, the right candidates to choose from?
(http://tidy.sourceforge.net/)

thanks,
Bill

me

2005-03-06, 8:45 pm

Bill wrote:
> Hello Group ...
>
> Are any of the applications on FC3 to be used for WEB page design, or is
> there something else available(open source) that is more appropriate?
> (versatile and user friendly)
>
> Thanks,
> Bill



Hello Bill.

Try installing Quanta. In FC3 you can type 'up2date -i quanta' and
it'll solve any dependancies it needs.

Enjoy!

Me.
bill

2005-03-07, 2:45 am

me wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hello Bill.
>
> Try installing Quanta. In FC3 you can type 'up2date -i quanta' and
> it'll solve any dependancies it needs.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Me.


Me ... this is what I got ... Is this right? Did it install Tidy also?

[root@wbryant ~]# up2date -i quanta
http://fedora.redhat.com/download/u...s/fedora-core-3
using mirror: http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/.../core/3/i386/os
http://fedora.redhat.com/download/u...es-released-fc3
using mirror: http://ftp.ndlug.nd.edu/pub/fedora/...updates/3/i386/

Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: fedora-core-3...

Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: updates-released-fc3...

Fetching rpm headers...

Name Version Rel
----------------------------------------------------------


The following packages you requested were not found:
quanta
[root@wbryant ~]#
bill

2005-03-07, 2:45 am

bill wrote:
> me wrote:
>
>
>
> Me ... this is what I got ... Is this right? Did it install Tidy also?
>
> [root@wbryant ~]# up2date -i quanta
> http://fedora.redhat.com/download/u...s/fedora-core-3
> using mirror:
> http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/.../core/3/i386/os
> http://fedora.redhat.com/download/u...es-released-fc3
> using mirror: http://ftp.ndlug.nd.edu/pub/fedora/...updates/3/i386/
>
> Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: fedora-core-3...
>
> Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: updates-released-fc3...
>
> Fetching rpm headers...
>
> Name Version Rel
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> The following packages you requested were not found:
> quanta
> [root@wbryant ~]#


I also got this for yum ...

[root@wbryant ~]# yum update quanta
Setting up Update Process
Setting up Repo: base
repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00
Setting up Repo: updates-released
repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
Setting up Repo: freshrpms
repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
Reading repository metadata in from local files
base : ########################################
########## 2622/2622
primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 292 kB 00:01
MD Read : ########################################
########## 709/709
updates-re: ########################################
########## 709/709
primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 144 kB 00:00
MD Read : ########################################
########## 467/467
freshrpms : ########################################
########## 467/467
Could not find update match for quanta
No Packages marked for Update/Obsoletion
[root@wbryant ~]#
Markku Kolkka

2005-03-07, 2:45 am

me wrote:
> Try installing Quanta. In FC3 you can type 'up2date -i quanta' and
> it'll solve any dependancies it needs.


In FC3 the package containing quanta is called
"kdewebdev" (http://kdewebdev.org/), so the command would be "up2date
-i kdewebdev" or "yum install kdewebdev".

--
Markku Kolkka
markku.kolkka@iki.fi
Me Here

2005-03-07, 5:45 pm

bill wrote:
> me wrote:
>
>
>
> Me ... this is what I got ... Is this right? Did it install Tidy also?
>
> [root@wbryant ~]# up2date -i quanta
> http://fedora.redhat.com/download/u...s/fedora-core-3
> using mirror:
> http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/.../core/3/i386/os
> http://fedora.redhat.com/download/u...es-released-fc3
> using mirror: http://ftp.ndlug.nd.edu/pub/fedora/...updates/3/i386/
>
> Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: fedora-core-3...
>
> Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: updates-released-fc3...
>
> Fetching rpm headers...
>
> Name Version Rel
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> The following packages you requested were not found:
>
> [root@wbryant ~]#



Hello Bill,

My mistake. They've re-arranged some packages and I didn't notice
they've included Quanta in the kdewebdev-3.3.1-1.i386 RPM.

So, to install Quanta and it's dependancies : 'up2date -i kdewebdev'

That should install all the KDE web development stuff. I don't know if
you're a Gnome or KDE fan but it will work regardless. (Personally, KDE
kicks as but the new version of XFCE might be even better...)

Hope this helps,

Me.
Me Here

2005-03-07, 5:45 pm

bill wrote:
> me wrote:
>
>
>
> Me ... this is what I got ... Is this right? Did it install Tidy also?
>
> [root@wbryant ~]# up2date -i quanta
> http://fedora.redhat.com/download/u...s/fedora-core-3
> using mirror:
> http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/.../core/3/i386/os
> http://fedora.redhat.com/download/u...es-released-fc3
> using mirror: http://ftp.ndlug.nd.edu/pub/fedora/...updates/3/i386/
>
> Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: fedora-core-3...
>
> Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: updates-released-fc3...
>
> Fetching rpm headers...
>
> Name Version Rel
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> The following packages you requested were not found:
>
> [root@wbryant ~]#



Hello Bill,

My mistake. They've re-arranged some packages and I didn't notice
they've included Quanta in the kdewebdev-3.3.1-1.i386 RPM.

So, to install Quanta and it's dependancies : 'up2date -i kdewebdev'

That should install all the KDE web development stuff. I don't know if
you're a Gnome or KDE fan but it will work regardless. (Personally, KDE
kicks as but the new version of XFCE might be even better...)

Hope this helps,

Me.
Me Here

2005-03-07, 5:45 pm

Markku Kolkka wrote:
> me wrote:
>
>
>
> In FC3 the package containing quanta is called
> "kdewebdev" (http://kdewebdev.org/), so the command would be "up2date
> -i kdewebdev" or "yum install kdewebdev".
>



Yup. Thanks Markku. They went and changed stuff on me again. :]

Me.
bill

2005-03-07, 5:45 pm

Markku Kolkka wrote:
> me wrote:
>
>
>
> In FC3 the package containing quanta is called
> "kdewebdev" (http://kdewebdev.org/), so the command would be "up2date
> -i kdewebdev" or "yum install kdewebdev".
>



Thanks for the help everyone. How do i verify that Tidy was updated?
when kdewebdev finished it prompted me with another window saying it
needed Tidy to be fully functional. This looks like it did nothing...

[root@wbryant ~]# yum install kdewebdev
Setting up Install Process
Setting up Repo: base
repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00
Setting up Repo: updates-released
repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
Setting up Repo: freshrpms
repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
Reading repository metadata in from local files
base : ########################################
########## 2622/2622
updates-re: ########################################
########## 709/709
primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 146 kB 00:01
MD Read : ########################################
########## 471/471
freshrpms : ########################################
########## 471/471
Nothing to do
[root@wbryant ~]


[root@wbryant ~]# up2date -i kdewebdev
http://fedora.redhat.com/download/u...s/fedora-core-3
using mirror: http://ftp.hostrino.com/pub/fedora/...core/3/i386/os/
http://fedora.redhat.com/download/u...es-released-fc3
using mirror: http://ftp.ndlug.nd.edu/pub/fedora/...updates/3/i386/

Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: fedora-core-3...

Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: updates-released-fc3...

Fetching rpm headers...

Name Version Rel
----------------------------------------------------------


The following packages you requested are already updated:
kdewebdev
[root@wbryant ~]#
Leythos

2005-03-07, 5:45 pm

>> Markku Kolkka wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]

Thanks for posting that, it worked for me, but it also says that tidy was
not installed, I hate to sound like a noob (since I am), but could you
find time to tell me what I need to yum to get tidy?

Thanks zillions

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Me Here

2005-03-07, 5:45 pm

bill wrote:
> Markku Kolkka wrote:
>
>
>
> Thanks for the help everyone. How do i verify that Tidy was updated?
> when kdewebdev finished it prompted me with another window saying it
> needed Tidy to be fully functional. This looks like it did nothing...
>
> [root@wbryant ~]# yum install kdewebdev
> Setting up Install Process
> Setting up Repo: base
> repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00
> Setting up Repo: updates-released
> repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
> Setting up Repo: freshrpms
> repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
> Reading repository metadata in from local files
> base : ########################################
########## 2622/2622
> updates-re: ########################################
########## 709/709
> primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 146 kB 00:01
> MD Read : ########################################
########## 471/471
> freshrpms : ########################################
########## 471/471
> Nothing to do
> [root@wbryant ~]
>
>
> [root@wbryant ~]# up2date -i kdewebdev
> http://fedora.redhat.com/download/u...s/fedora-core-3
> using mirror: http://ftp.hostrino.com/pub/fedora/...core/3/i386/os/
> http://fedora.redhat.com/download/u...es-released-fc3
> using mirror: http://ftp.ndlug.nd.edu/pub/fedora/...updates/3/i386/
>
> Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: fedora-core-3...
>
> Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: updates-released-fc3...
>
> Fetching rpm headers...
>
> Name Version Rel
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> The following packages you requested are already updated:
> kdewebdev
> [root@wbryant ~]#


I found this package 'perl-Tidy-20031021-1.1.fc3.rf.noarch.rpm' at the
Dag repository. Is that what you're refering to?

Me.
Rincewind

2005-03-07, 8:45 pm

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 01:55:04 +0000, bill mumbled something like this:

> Rincewind wrote:
> Thanks Rinso ...
>
> I downloaded Quanta Plus 3.3.2 and launched it, but It wants Tidy(HTML
> syntax checking) installed to be fully functional. In checking
> sourceforge, there seems to be many versions(and lots of old ones too) of
> Tidy but none i can tell specifically for FC3. They have projects listed
> for HTML, Java, PERL XS, Python wrapper, HTML Trim, XHTML/XML and Jase.
> Will all these work with FC3.
>
> So for HTML syntax checking, would it be HTML, HTML Trim, XHTML/XML and
> Jase out of the projects listed, the right candidates to choose from?
> (http://tidy.sourceforge.net/)
>
> thanks,
> Bill


This one works perfectly:

http://tidy.sourceforge.net/cf/tidy_linux_x86.tgz

When you have download it, save it to /usr

then:

cd /usr

tar -xzf tidy_linux_x86.tgz

you will then have a binary executable at /usr/bin/tidy. Quanta Plus will
detect and use this automatically. You can also use it to check html files
from the command line:

tidy myfile.html

--
Rinso
/\
/ \
/wizz\
~~~~~~~~~~~~

Leythos

2005-03-07, 8:45 pm

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 23:58:12 +0000, Rincewind wrote:
>
> This one works perfectly:
>
> http://tidy.sourceforge.net/cf/tidy_linux_x86.tgz
>
> When you have download it, save it to /usr
>
> then:
>
> cd /usr
>
> tar -xzf tidy_linux_x86.tgz
>
> you will then have a binary executable at /usr/bin/tidy. Quanta Plus will
> detect and use this automatically. You can also use it to check html files
> from the command line:
>
> tidy myfile.html


Thanks - worked inside Quanta for me.

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bill

2005-03-08, 2:45 am

Rincewind wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 01:55:04 +0000, bill mumbled something like this:
>
>
>
>
> This one works perfectly:
>
> http://tidy.sourceforge.net/cf/tidy_linux_x86.tgz
>
> When you have download it, save it to /usr
>
> then:
>
> cd /usr
>
> tar -xzf tidy_linux_x86.tgz
>
> you will then have a binary executable at /usr/bin/tidy. Quanta Plus will
> detect and use this automatically. You can also use it to check html files
> from the command line:
>
> tidy myfile.html
>

Thanks Rinso ... I looks like it worked. I launched Quanta and it did
not give the tidy warning window this time ... Thanks, Bill
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