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| PosterGuy 2006-03-25, 9:55 am |
| Please help me out. I'm a Linux newbie. I managed to install Red Hat Fedora
on a computer I have and I need to know several things that I can't figure
out on my own.
1) How can I tell what version of Fedora Core I have? (does FC run on top
of something else?)
2) How do I look at my hard drive and see how much free space I have?
3) How do I install and unistall programs?
4) Can I upgrade say, for example from Fedora Core 2 to FC4 from within
Linux ie: with the machine and OS up and running? If so how/what do I
download from the internet (what extension on the file?)
5) Where do I get Mythtv and how do I load it after I get FC4 running?
Thank you so much. I am so tired of Windows but this is proving a bit much
of a challenge.
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| Bit Twister 2006-03-25, 9:55 am |
| ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.linux.redhat.]
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:43:54 GMT, PosterGuy wrote:
> Please help me out. I'm a Linux newbie. I managed to install Red Hat Fedora
> on a computer I have and I need to know several things that I can't figure
> out on my own.
>
> 1) How can I tell what version of Fedora Core I have?
cat /etc/*release*
uname -a
> (does FC run on top of something else?)
linux kernel
> 2) How do I look at my hard drive and see how much free space I have?
df -v
> 3) How do I install and unistall programs?
depends on how application was packaged.
> 4) Can I upgrade say, for example from Fedora Core 2 to FC4 from within
> Linux ie: with the machine and OS up and running?
Yes, only when you swap out kernel will you have to re-boot.
> If so how/what do I
> download from the internet (what extension on the file?)
I always do a clean install into a new partition so I have a fallback
in case of failure.
Please bookmark the following, very large,
Frequently Asked Questions (faq) Search engine:
http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search
slrncf00j3.n1v.BitTwister@wb.home.invalid in Message Id box
> 5) Where do I get Mythtv and how do I load it after I get FC4 running?
>
> Thank you so much. I am so tired of Windows but this is proving a bit much
> of a challenge.
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| On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:43:54 +0000, PosterGuy wrote:
> Please help me out. I'm a Linux newbie. I managed to install Red Hat Fedora
> on a computer I have and I need to know several things that I can't figure
> out on my own.
>
> 1) How can I tell what version of Fedora Core I have? (does FC run on top
> of something else?)
Open a terminal window. "uname -a" will give you a lot of info. You'll
also find some files in /etc - probably with 'release' or 'version' or
'distribution' or something similar in the name - 'cat' them. FC is a
linux distribution. It does not 'run on top of' anything - it runs a linux
kernel - which you'll identify with uname.
>
> 2) How do I look at my hard drive and see how much free space I have?
df
>
> 3) How do I install and unistall programs?
go to the start menu, system - 'install software'
>
> 4) Can I upgrade say, for example from Fedora Core 2 to FC4 from within
> Linux ie: with the machine and OS up and running? If so how/what do I
> download from the internet (what extension on the file?)
On most RPM (RedHat Package Management) systems (which includes also
Mandrivel and SUSE) it is generally better to do a new install than
attempt an upgrade - unless things have improved a lot in the last year or
two. I've had much better luck upgrading Debian distributions, such as
(K)Ubuntu.
>
> 5) Where do I get Mythtv and how do I load it after I get FC4 running?
>
> Thank you so much. I am so tired of Windows but this is proving a bit much
> of a challenge.
In my experience, it's no more difficult, in many ways easier, but it is a
bit different.
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| tmpolzin@netscape.net 2006-03-25, 9:55 am |
| PosterGuy wrote:
> Please help me out. I'm a Linux newbie. I managed to install Red Hat Fedora
> on a computer I have and I need to know several things that I can't figure
> out on my own.
>
> 1) How can I tell what version of Fedora Core I have? (does FC run on top
> of something else?)
>
rpm -q fedora-release
> 2) How do I look at my hard drive and see how much free space I have?
>
df of df -h
> 3) How do I install and unistall programs?
>
via yum or rpm, RTFM (read the fine manual) man yun, man rpm
> 4) Can I upgrade say, for example from Fedora Core 2 to FC4 from within
> Linux ie: with the machine and OS up and running? If so how/what do I
> download from the internet (what extension on the file?)
>
No, upgrade thru upgrade program(s) on CD or DVD
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| David W. Legg 2006-03-25, 9:55 am |
| 1. more /etc/*release* or just look at the grub menu on boot.
2. df -lh or use kwikdisk
3. e.g. yum install firefox
4. No. Boot from the FC4 CD/DVD.
5. Google for atrpms and/or mythtv. Follow the instructions on atrpms'
web site.
PosterGuy wrote:
> Please help me out. I'm a Linux newbie. I managed to install Red Hat Fedora
> on a computer I have and I need to know several things that I can't figure
> out on my own.
>
> 1) How can I tell what version of Fedora Core I have? (does FC run on top
> of something else?)
>
> 2) How do I look at my hard drive and see how much free space I have?
>
> 3) How do I install and unistall programs?
>
> 4) Can I upgrade say, for example from Fedora Core 2 to FC4 from within
> Linux ie: with the machine and OS up and running? If so how/what do I
> download from the internet (what extension on the file?)
>
> 5) Where do I get Mythtv and how do I load it after I get FC4 running?
>
> Thank you so much. I am so tired of Windows but this is proving a bit much
> of a challenge.
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| J.O. Aho 2006-03-25, 9:55 am |
| PosterGuy wrote:
> Please help me out. I'm a Linux newbie. I managed to install Red Hat Fedora
> on a computer I have and I need to know several things that I can't figure
> out on my own.
>
> 1) How can I tell what version of Fedora Core I have? (does FC run on top
> of something else?)
cat /etc/issue
or
cat /etc/redhat-release
(not sure about this one, you can try to replace redhat with fedora)
> 2) How do I look at my hard drive and see how much free space I have?
df
> 3) How do I install and unistall programs?
Install:
rpm -Uvh /path/to/package/to/install/pacakge.rpm
Uninstall:
rpm -e packagename
(keep in mind that packagename and filename ain't the same thing!)
> 4) Can I upgrade say, for example from Fedora Core 2 to FC4 from within
> Linux ie: with the machine and OS up and running? If so how/what do I
> download from the internet (what extension on the file?)
In theory it would be just to use the fedora rpms and install those
(extension: rpm), but I guess it's safer just to use the install CD setup and
do an upgrade.
> 5) Where do I get Mythtv and how do I load it after I get FC4 running?
http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?n...wdownload&cid=1
//Aho
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| Trog Woolley 2006-03-25, 9:55 am |
| While stranded on the hard shoulder of the information super highway PosterGuy@home.com typed:
> Please help me out. I'm a Linux newbie. I managed to install Red Hat Fedora
> on a computer I have and I need to know several things that I can't figure
> out on my own.
>
> 1) How can I tell what version of Fedora Core I have? (does FC run on top
> of something else?)
At the command line type uname -a or cat /proc/version
> 2) How do I look at my hard drive and see how much free space I have?
At the command line type df - you might want to add some options to
get a "sensible" answer. df -h is a good one. There are also options
on the menu to do this. If you are running KD, check in info centre or
use KDiskFree. If you have another GUI, have a dig around.
> 3) How do I install and unistall programs?
This depends entirely on how the application is packaged. It might be in
rpm format, in which case rpm -i some.file.rpm will do the job (which is
what I do), but this is very terse on the output. You might like to use
rpm -ivh some.file.rpm Of course, you should test that you have all of
the dependancies first with rpm -i --test some.file.rpm
If the application packaged as a tar zip (.gz or .tz) then you will need
to untar the file tar - xzvf some.file.gz Of course before you do this,
you should look at a listing of the contents to see where it is going to
unpack the files; tar -tzvf some.file.gz will do this. There *should* be
a README with the application which will tell you how to install it.
If your trying to install stuff from your FC cds, the easiest way is to
call up the package management option from the menu.
> 4) Can I upgrade say, for example from Fedora Core 2 to FC4 from within
> Linux ie: with the machine and OS up and running? If so how/what do I
> download from the internet (what extension on the file?)
Yep. Again on the menu, there is up2date or similar which will do it
for you. I'm a bit vague on this, 'cus I've never done it. My last upgrade
was from RH7.1 to FC3 and I don't think up2date would have handled that, so
I did it all manaually.
> 5) Where do I get Mythtv and how do I load it after I get FC4 running?
Google is your friend here - I'm not a TV guy so I can't help
> Thank you so much. I am so tired of Windows but this is proving a bit much
> of a challenge.
It's not a challenge, it's a learning experience. Welcome aboard.
--
Trog Woolley | trog at trogwoolley dot com
(A Croweater back residing in Pommie Land with Linux)
Isis Astarte Diana Hecate Demeter Kali Inanna
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| Trog Woolley wrote:
> While stranded on the hard shoulder of the information super highway PosterGuy@home.com typed:
>
> At the command line type uname -a or cat /proc/version
The following gives a simpler answer...
]$ cat /etc/redhat-release
Fedora Core release 5 (Bordeaux)
The others tell the kernel level, which may tell you the version of
Fedora Core.
You might consider FC5, as a recent "convert" there are some things that
might cause you difficulties that go away in FC5. Like the mounting and
unmounting of CDs and DVDs.
>
>
> At the command line type df - you might want to add some options to
> get a "sensible" answer. df -h is a good one. There are also options
> on the menu to do this. If you are running KD, check in info centre or
> use KDiskFree. If you have another GUI, have a dig around.
>
>
> This depends entirely on how the application is packaged. It might be in
> rpm format, in which case rpm -i some.file.rpm will do the job (which is
> what I do), but this is very terse on the output. You might like to use
> rpm -ivh some.file.rpm Of course, you should test that you have all of
> the dependancies first with rpm -i --test some.file.rpm
>
> If the application packaged as a tar zip (.gz or .tz) then you will need
> to untar the file tar - xzvf some.file.gz Of course before you do this,
> you should look at a listing of the contents to see where it is going to
> unpack the files; tar -tzvf some.file.gz will do this. There *should* be
> a README with the application which will tell you how to install it.
>
> If your trying to install stuff from your FC cds, the easiest way is to
> call up the package management option from the menu.
There is also yum, if the package is on one of the sites you have
defined. So you can get additional packages from Fedora Extras that way.
Uninstalls are done with rpm -e packageNameNotRPMname, or by yum remove.
man yum and man rpm for more details.
>
>
> Yep. Again on the menu, there is up2date or similar which will do it
> for you. I'm a bit vague on this, 'cus I've never done it. My last upgrade
> was from RH7.1 to FC3 and I don't think up2date would have handled that, so
> I did it all manaually.
>
>
> Google is your friend here - I'm not a TV guy so I can't help
>
>
> It's not a challenge, it's a learning experience. Welcome aboard.
>
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| PosterGuy 2006-03-25, 9:55 am |
| Trog Woolley <trog@email.fake> wrote in
news:e01t8j$in0$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk:
> While stranded on the hard shoulder of the information super highway
> PosterGuy@home.com typed:
>
> At the command line type uname -a or cat /proc/version
>
>
> At the command line type df - you might want to add some options to
> get a "sensible" answer. df -h is a good one. There are also options
> on the menu to do this. If you are running KD, check in info centre
> or use KDiskFree. If you have another GUI, have a dig around.
>
>
> This depends entirely on how the application is packaged. It might be
> in rpm format, in which case rpm -i some.file.rpm will do the job
> (which is what I do), but this is very terse on the output. You might
> like to use rpm -ivh some.file.rpm Of course, you should test that
> you have all of the dependancies first with rpm -i --test
> some.file.rpm
>
> If the application packaged as a tar zip (.gz or .tz) then you will
> need to untar the file tar - xzvf some.file.gz Of course before you
> do this, you should look at a listing of the contents to see where it
> is going to unpack the files; tar -tzvf some.file.gz will do this.
> There *should* be a README with the application which will tell you
> how to install it.
>
> If your trying to install stuff from your FC cds, the easiest way is
> to call up the package management option from the menu.
>
>
> Yep. Again on the menu, there is up2date or similar which will do it
> for you. I'm a bit vague on this, 'cus I've never done it. My last
> upgrade was from RH7.1 to FC3 and I don't think up2date would have
> handled that, so I did it all manaually.
>
>
> Google is your friend here - I'm not a TV guy so I can't help
>
>
> It's not a challenge, it's a learning experience. Welcome aboard.
>
Thank you so much for your answers - very very innformative !!!
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| PosterGuy 2006-03-25, 9:55 am |
| ken <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in news:jK1Vf.2716$KE1.1146@dukeread02:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Trog Woolley wrote:
>
> The following gives a simpler answer...
>
>]$ cat /etc/redhat-release
> Fedora Core release 5 (Bordeaux)
>
> The others tell the kernel level, which may tell you the version of
> Fedora Core.
>
> You might consider FC5, as a recent "convert" there are some things
> that might cause you difficulties that go away in FC5. Like the
> mounting and unmounting of CDs and DVDs.
>
>
> There is also yum, if the package is on one of the sites you have
> defined. So you can get additional packages from Fedora Extras that
> way.
>
> Uninstalls are done with rpm -e packageNameNotRPMname, or by yum
> remove.
> man yum and man rpm for more details.
>
Thank you so much - you guys are great and very helpful !!!
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| Nicholas Andrade 2006-03-31, 12:12 am |
| PosterGuy wrote:
> Please help me out. I'm a Linux newbie. I managed to install Red Hat Fedora
> on a computer I have and I need to know several things that I can't figure
> out on my own.
>
> 1) How can I tell what version of Fedora Core I have? (does FC run on top
> of something else?)
>
> 2) How do I look at my hard drive and see how much free space I have?
>
> 3) How do I install and unistall programs?
>
> 4) Can I upgrade say, for example from Fedora Core 2 to FC4 from within
> Linux ie: with the machine and OS up and running? If so how/what do I
> download from the internet (what extension on the file?)
>
> 5) Where do I get Mythtv and how do I load it after I get FC4 running?
>
> Thank you so much. I am so tired of Windows but this is proving a bit much
> of a challenge.
Well it looks like others have already answered most of your questions;
I just wanted to recommend checking out fedorafaq.org for more basic
info that's good to know. Here is a walkthrough for MythTV on FC4:
http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php You should note that it does
require certain hardware, and I'd highly recommend getting more familiar
with Linux before installing MythTV. You might also want to look up the
KnoppMyth project (it's a live CD based on Debian that takes care of a
lot of settings for you).
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| PosterGuy 2006-03-31, 12:12 am |
| Nicholas Andrade <SDNick484@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in
news:z10Wf.51829$F_3.34009@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net:
> PosterGuy wrote:
>
> Well it looks like others have already answered most of your
> questions; I just wanted to recommend checking out fedorafaq.org for
> more basic info that's good to know. Here is a walkthrough for MythTV
> on FC4: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php You should note that it
> does require certain hardware, and I'd highly recommend getting more
> familiar with Linux before installing MythTV. You might also want to
> look up the KnoppMyth project (it's a live CD based on Debian that
> takes care of a lot of settings for you).
>
Bit by bit .... There's so much to read !!
Good to get away from Windows though. Thanks for your input
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