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What does RHEL 5 use for Thunderbird?
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| Jean-David Beyer 2007-06-25, 7:14 pm |
| Firefox-1.5.0.9 comes with RHEL 5, but I cannot find any for Thunderbird.
If I look at Thunderbird web site, 2.0.0.4 seems to be what they supply, and
it requires more up-to-date libraries than RHEL 5 supplies.
So what do they supply instead for email and Usenet?
They seem to have 'evolution-data-server' and 'evolution-data-server-devel',
but no 'evolution'. In the old days they supplied evolution, that did not
work with enigmail. So what have they in mind for users of RHEL 5?
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| General Schvantzkoph 2007-06-25, 7:14 pm |
| On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 19:04:50 +0000, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> Firefox-1.5.0.9 comes with RHEL 5, but I cannot find any for
> Thunderbird.
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> If I look at Thunderbird web site, 2.0.0.4 seems to be what they supply,
> and it requires more up-to-date libraries than RHEL 5 supplies.
>
> So what do they supply instead for email and Usenet?
>
> They seem to have 'evolution-data-server' and
> 'evolution-data-server-devel', but no 'evolution'. In the old days they
> supplied evolution, that did not work with enigmail. So what have they
> in mind for users of RHEL 5?
Evolution is there, have you tried to see if the current version does
what you need it to do?
For news they have Pan.
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| Jean-David Beyer 2007-06-25, 7:14 pm |
| General Schvantzkoph wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 19:04:50 +0000, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
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> Evolution is there, have you tried to see if the current version does
> what you need it to do?
I have the 5 CD-ROMs and it is not there. They have evolution-data-server
and evolution-data-server-devel, but not evolution. BTW, CentOS 5 has
evolution. I downloaded that, but since I am running RHEL3 at the moment, I
will not try to load it.
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> For news they have Pan.
I have tried various news readers in the past and have never been able to
make them work right. Whenever I start one up, it goes through all the
newsgroups I am signed up for, downloading everything from scratch. I do not
know if I tried Pan or not, but I have tried some of them.
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| General Schvantzkoph 2007-06-25, 7:14 pm |
| On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:47:28 +0000, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> General Schvantzkoph wrote:
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> I have the 5 CD-ROMs and it is not there. They have
> evolution-data-server and evolution-data-server-devel, but not
> evolution. BTW, CentOS 5 has evolution. I downloaded that, but since I
> am running RHEL3 at the moment, I will not try to load it.
>
> I have tried various news readers in the past and have never been able
> to make them work right. Whenever I start one up, it goes through all
> the newsgroups I am signed up for, downloading everything from scratch.
> I do not know if I tried Pan or not, but I have tried some of them.
I've been using Pan for years, I think it's pretty good.
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| Jean-David Beyer 2007-06-25, 7:14 pm |
| General Schvantzkoph wrote:
I just looked: they do not have pan. I looked at a pan web site and the
stuff in RHEL5 is far too old for it.
[vbcol=seagreen]
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> I've been using Pan for years, I think it's pretty good.
Where did you get your pan for RHEL5?
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| General Schvantzkoph 2007-06-25, 7:14 pm |
| On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:06:43 +0000, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> General Schvantzkoph wrote:
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> I just looked: they do not have pan. I looked at a pan web site and the
> stuff in RHEL5 is far too old for it.
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> Where did you get your pan for RHEL5?
I'm running CentOS5. I don't think CentOS5 has anything that RHEL5
doesn't have. If you do a yum -install pan what happens?
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| Jean-David Beyer 2007-06-26, 1:14 am |
| General Schvantzkoph wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:06:43 +0000, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
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> I'm running CentOS5. I don't think CentOS5 has anything that RHEL5
> doesn't have. If you do a yum -install pan what happens?
Right now I am running RHEL3. I have the RHEL5 disks on top of my computer,
but can install them no sooner than July 1, and I will have to get GnuCash
running first, and that, too, is not supported by RHEL5. And since
Thunderbird is not either, I guess I will have to go with Evolution that is
also not supported. Grrr. Now Evolution _is_ supported by CentOS, so I may
get it from there and see if it will install on RHEL5. I am also switching
from IBM DB2 to PostgreSQL and hope it will be adequate. I would like all
the updating to come from one place if I can, and do not need to be bleeding
edge.
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| Jan Gerrit Kootstra 2007-06-26, 1:14 am |
| General Schvantzkoph wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:06:43 +0000, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
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> I'm running CentOS5. I don't think CentOS5 has anything that RHEL5
> doesn't have. If you do a yum -install pan what happens?
General,
It is not in the installation tree of RHEL5Server.
It might be in the RHEL5Client, but I do not have that product.
Best regards,
Jan Gerrit Kootstra
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| Jan Gerrit Kootstra 2007-06-26, 7:13 am |
| Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> General Schvantzkoph wrote:
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> Right now I am running RHEL3. I have the RHEL5 disks on top of my computer,
> but can install them no sooner than July 1, and I will have to get GnuCash
> running first, and that, too, is not supported by RHEL5. And since
> Thunderbird is not either, I guess I will have to go with Evolution that is
> also not supported. Grrr. Now Evolution _is_ supported by CentOS, so I may
> get it from there and see if it will install on RHEL5. I am also switching
> from IBM DB2 to PostgreSQL and hope it will be adequate. I would like all
> the updating to come from one place if I can, and do not need to be bleeding
> edge.
>
Jean-David,
I do not use Thunderbird, just the old netscape 7.2.
Best regards,
Jan Gerrit
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| Robert Nichols 2007-06-26, 1:13 pm |
| In article <ILZfi.2315$yp.1841@trnddc08>,
Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> wrote:
:
:Right now I am running RHEL3. I have the RHEL5 disks on top of my computer,
:but can install them no sooner than July 1, and I will have to get GnuCash
:running first, and that, too, is not supported by RHEL5. And since
:Thunderbird is not either, I guess I will have to go with Evolution that is
:also not supported. Grrr. Now Evolution _is_ supported by CentOS, so I may
:get it from there and see if it will install on RHEL5. I am also switching
:from IBM DB2 to PostgreSQL and hope it will be adequate. I would like all
:the updating to come from one place if I can, and do not need to be bleeding
:edge.
Sounds like what you have is RHEL5-Server, which is likely to be missing
quite a few common desktop applications. CentOS-5 combines the Server
and Client variants of RHEL5 and has both evolution-2.8.0-33.0.1 and
thunderbird-1.5.0.12-1 .
$ rpm -q evolution thunderbird
evolution-2.8.0-33.0.1.el5
thunderbird-1.5.0.12-1.el5.centos
$ cat /etc/redhat-release
CentOS release 5 (Final)
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| Jean-David Beyer 2007-06-26, 1:13 pm |
| Robert Nichols wrote:
> In article <ILZfi.2315$yp.1841@trnddc08>,
> Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> wrote:
> :
> :Right now I am running RHEL3. I have the RHEL5 disks on top of my computer,
> :but can install them no sooner than July 1, and I will have to get GnuCash
> :running first, and that, too, is not supported by RHEL5. And since
> :Thunderbird is not either, I guess I will have to go with Evolution that is
> :also not supported. Grrr. Now Evolution _is_ supported by CentOS, so I may
> :get it from there and see if it will install on RHEL5. I am also switching
> :from IBM DB2 to PostgreSQL and hope it will be adequate. I would like all
> :the updating to come from one place if I can, and do not need to be bleeding
> :edge.
>
> Sounds like what you have is RHEL5-Server, which is likely to be missing
> quite a few common desktop applications. CentOS-5 combines the Server
> and Client variants of RHEL5 and has both evolution-2.8.0-33.0.1 and
> thunderbird-1.5.0.12-1 .
>
> $ rpm -q evolution thunderbird
> evolution-2.8.0-33.0.1.el5
> thunderbird-1.5.0.12-1.el5.centos
> $ cat /etc/redhat-release
> CentOS release 5 (Final)
>
I am quite sure you are right. I guess I will get the missing stuff from
CentOS5 unless I can figure out how to get a supported version from Red Hat
without paying extra for it.
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| Lenard 2007-06-29, 1:14 pm |
| Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> I am quite sure you are right. I guess I will get the missing stuff from
> CentOS5 unless I can figure out how to get a supported version from Red
> Hat without paying extra for it.
>
The Fedora 7 / Development thunderbird-2.0.0.4 rpm packages work with RHEL5,
but you will need a few updates from the standard RHEL packages;
$ rpm -qa --qf="%{n}-%{v}-%{r}.%{arch}.rpm\n" thunderbird
thunderbird-2.0.0.4-1.fc7.x86_64.rpm
$ cat /etc/*release
Red Hat Enterprise Linux Client release 5 (Tikanga)
Also consider adding the epel repo to your yum configuration after
installing RHEL5: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL
example reason;
http://linux.nssl.noaa.gov/epel/5Se....1.el5.i386.rpm
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