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What the heck is going on?!?!?!
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| Italy Anonymous Remailer 2004-11-16, 2:13 pm |
| Can't post to usenet except through two maybe three remailers???
95% of posts are not making it through.
This has been going on for over a week.
Does anyone know what's going on???
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| Tripper 2004-11-16, 2:13 pm |
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In article <8CX8F5OY38307.7360416667@anonymous.poster>
nobody@See.Comments.Header (Italy Anonymous Remailer) wrote:
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> Can't post to usenet except through two maybe three remailers???
>
> 95% of posts are not making it through.
>
> This has been going on for over a week.
>
> Does anyone know what's going on???
Problems with the mail2news gateways. Just avoid them and use
Anon-Post-To:
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Love and Best Wishes
Tripper
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| panta-admin 2004-11-17, 7:45 am |
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Hi !
>Does anyone know what's going on???
Because there is no challenge-response in the mixmaster dest-block feature
someone is using it to block all mail2news.
I guess this will be fixed very soon.
For now, just use a Reliable remailer as exit node:
thrasher, bigapple, dingo, hastio, italy, senshi or panta (panta requires
hashcash!).
Reliable does not have that feature, so it cant be abused.
I have built automatic dest-blocking in my reliable mod running at panta
and thrasher, but it uses challenge response.
Hope this helps,
Cheers,
panta-admin
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| Anonymous 2004-11-17, 5:45 pm |
| In article <86H6N33X38308.4866203704@anonymous.poster>
panta-admin <anonymous@panta-rhei.dyndns.org> wrote:
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> Hi !
>
>
> Because there is no challenge-response in the mixmaster dest-block feature
> someone is using it to block all mail2news.
> I guess this will be fixed very soon.
>
> For now, just use a Reliable remailer as exit node:
>
> thrasher, bigapple, dingo, hastio, italy, senshi or panta (panta requires
> hashcash!).
>
> Reliable does not have that feature, so it cant be abused.
> I have built automatic dest-blocking in my reliable mod running at panta
> and thrasher, but it uses challenge response.
This is obviously the work of cybercriminal Patrick Paris.
-=-
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| Anonymous via panta 2004-11-18, 2:45 am |
| In article <CY9MSG0838308.6446064815@anonymous>
Anonymous <BigappleRemailer@Optonline.Net> wrote:
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> In article <86H6N33X38308.4866203704@anonymous.poster>
> panta-admin <anonymous@panta-rhei.dyndns.org> wrote:
>
> This is obviously the work of cybercriminal Patrick Paris.
Actually that is not obvious at all.
Does ANYONE find it at least a little bit suspisious that within days of Asmodeus returning that this dest-block abuse starts happening?
I think that asmodeus is responsible, and that instead of simply begging people to use his remailer as exit, he's tryng to force the issue by attempting to DOS the other exit points that people normally use.
the problem is that he screwed this up too by not remembering that Reliable based M2N's are immune to the dest-block weakness.
Thanks asmodeus, you've once again proven you're a TLA plant.
GFY
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On 17 Nov 2004 11:40:44 -0000, panta-admin wrote in
Message-Id: <86H6N33X38308.4866203704@anonymous.poster>:
> Because there is no challenge-response in the mixmaster dest-block feature
> someone is using it to block all mail2news.
> I guess this will be fixed very soon.
I doubt there will be a proper fix for quite some time. This weakness
has been known about for a long time but the number of people with
skills to fix it properly is pretty limited.
For the time being, for those remops who use procmail, this will solve
the immediate issue.
:0 B
* DESTINATION-BLOCK.*mail2news
{
LOG="Destination Block Trapped "
:0
/dev/null
}
:0
* ^Subject:.*DESTINATION-BLOCK.*mail2news
{
LOG="Destination Block Trapped "
:0
/dev/null
}
:0
| /home/mix3/Mix/mixmaster -RM
Of course, turning off the auto-block is another quick fix.
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| Italy Anonymous Remailer 2004-11-18, 5:45 pm |
| In article <cnj3no$l4d$1@bananasplit.info>
Zax <fleegle@bananasplit.info> wrote:
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> On 17 Nov 2004 11:40:44 -0000, panta-admin wrote in
> Message-Id: <86H6N33X38308.4866203704@anonymous.poster>:
>
>
> I doubt there will be a proper fix for quite some time. This weakness
> has been known about for a long time but the number of people with
> skills to fix it properly is pretty limited.
>
It is hard to believe that unix or linux or whatever it is, is
so lacking in flexibility that the operator can't control
something like this. But if you say thats how it is, I have to
believe you.
If I have it right, the only remailers immune to this problem
are the ones running Reliable, and those are:
panta, bigapple, asmodeus, thrasher, dingo, italy, hastio, and
senshi
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| BiKiKii Admin 2004-11-19, 5:45 pm |
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On Thu, 18 Nov 2004, Zax wrote:
>On 17 Nov 2004 11:40:44 -0000, panta-admin wrote:
>
>
>I doubt there will be a proper fix for quite some time.
>This weakness has been known about for a long time but the number of
>people with skills to fix it properly is pretty limited.
>
>
>For the time being, for those remops who use procmail, this will solve
>the immediate issue.
>
>:0 B
>* DESTINATION-BLOCK.*mail2news
>{
> LOG="Destination Block Trapped "
> :0
> /dev/null
>}
>
>:0
>* ^Subject:.*DESTINATION-BLOCK.*mail2news
>{
> LOG="Destination Block Trapped "
> :0
> /dev/null
>}
>
>:0
>| /home/mix3/Mix/mixmaster -RM
>
>
>Of course, turning off the auto-block is another quick fix.
>
While not addressing the lack of challenge-response issue, it would
seem to easy to modify the Mixmaster code in order to eliminate a
malicious dest-block against mail2news gateways and nymservers.
Some slight modification based upon the code already in place to eliminate
dest-block attempts against active Type I, Type II and the Remailer itself.
BiKiKii
/*
Reference Mixmaster code:
rem.c
}
/* Check whether somebody wants us to block ourselves */
buf_set(copy_addr, addr);
buf_sets(remailer_addr, REMAILERADDR);
if (doblock(remailer_addr, copy_addr, 1)) {
errlog(LOG, "Ignoring blocking request for %b from %b.\n", addr, from);
request = 2;
goto end;
}
/* Check if some evil person tries to block a known type II remailer */
num = mix2_rlist(remailer, NULL);
for (i = 0; i < num; i++) {
buf_sets(remailer_addr, remailer[i].addr);
if (doblock(remailer_addr, copy_addr, 1)) {
errlog(LOG, "Ignoring blocking request for %b from %b.\n", addr, from);
request = 2;
goto end;
}
}
/* Check if some evil person tries to block a known type I remailer */
num = t1_rlist(remailer, NULL);
for (i = 0; i < num; i++) {
buf_sets(remailer_addr, remailer[i].addr);
if (doblock(remailer_addr, copy_addr, 1)) {
errlog(LOG, "Ignoring blocking request for %b from %b.\n", addr, from);
request = 2;
goto end;
}
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| Thomas J. Boschloo 2004-11-20, 7:45 am |
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Anonymous wrote:
| In article <86H6N33X38308.4866203704@anonymous.poster>
| panta-admin <anonymous@panta-rhei.dyndns.org> wrote:
|
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|>Hi !
|>
|>
|>>Does anyone know what's going on???
|>
|>Because there is no challenge-response in the mixmaster dest-block feature
|>someone is using it to block all mail2news.
|>I guess this will be fixed very soon.
|>
|>For now, just use a Reliable remailer as exit node:
|>
|>thrasher, bigapple, dingo, hastio, italy, senshi or panta (panta requires
|>hashcash!).
|>
|>Reliable does not have that feature, so it cant be abused.
|>I have built automatic dest-blocking in my reliable mod running at panta
|>and thrasher, but it uses challenge response.
|
|
| This is obviously the work of cybercriminal Patrick Paris.
Seems to have a remop signature anyways, someone who knows what he is doing!
I want to thank him or her anyways. It is a good vulnerability that
he/she has found and by exploiting it the mixmaster maintainers won't be
able to ignore it. I think a mix204b47 will see the surface soon :-)
Thomas
- --
The Thraddash: "So, what's this? SNORT! An unknown alien species?"
"How wonderful! Someone new to fight!"
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| Anonymous via panta 2004-11-20, 5:45 pm |
| In article <CY9MSG0838308.6446064815@anonymous>
Anonymous <BigappleRemailer@Optonline.Net> wrote:
>
> In article <86H6N33X38308.4866203704@anonymous.poster>
> panta-admin <anonymous@panta-rhei.dyndns.org> wrote:
>
> This is obviously the work of cybercriminal Patrick Paris.
Actually that is not obvious at all.
Does ANYONE find it at least a little bit suspisious that within days of Asmodeus returning that this dest-block abuse starts happening?
I think that asmodeus is responsible, and that instead of simply begging people to use his remailer as exit, he's tryng to force the issue by attempting to DOS the other exit points that people normally use.
the problem is that he screwed this up too by not remembering that Reliable based M2N's are immune to the dest-block weakness.
Thanks asmodeus, you've once again proven you're a TLA plant.
GFY
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| Pink Panther 2004-11-20, 5:45 pm |
| In article <419f4334$0$155$3a628fcd@reader2.nntp.hccnet.nl>
"Thomas J. Boschloo" <nospam@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>
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> Anonymous wrote:
> | In article <86H6N33X38308.4866203704@anonymous.poster>
> | panta-admin <anonymous@panta-rhei.dyndns.org> wrote:
> |
> |>Hi !
> |>
> |>>Does anyone know what's going on???
> |>
> |>Because there is no challenge-response in the mixmaster dest-block feature
> |>someone is using it to block all mail2news.
> |>I guess this will be fixed very soon.
> |>
> |>For now, just use a Reliable remailer as exit node:
> |>
> |>thrasher, bigapple, dingo, hastio, italy, senshi or panta (panta requires
> |>hashcash!).
> |>
> |>Reliable does not have that feature, so it cant be abused.
> |>I have built automatic dest-blocking in my reliable mod running at panta
> |>and thrasher, but it uses challenge response.
> |
> | This is obviously the work of cybercriminal Patrick Paris.
>
> Seems to have a remop signature anyways, someone who knows what he is doing!
>
> I want to thank him or her anyways. It is a good vulnerability that
> he/she has found and by exploiting it the mixmaster maintainers won't be
> able to ignore it. I think a mix204b47 will see the surface soon :-)
>
> Thomas
Why doesn't he take a look at the goons from AUK, some of whom possibly might
have been upset by your big buddy Doctor Who's comments about Cotse?
Why blame FA by default eh?
Now that *is* paranoia.
The Pink Panther
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| Doctor Who@any.place 2004-11-20, 5:45 pm |
| On 20 Nov 2004 16:22:29 -0000, Pink Panther <Pink.Panther@some.domain> wrote:
>:In article <419f4334$0$155$3a628fcd@reader2.nntp.hccnet.nl>
>:"Thomas J. Boschloo" <nospam@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>:>
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>:> Anonymous wrote:
>:> | In article <86H6N33X38308.4866203704@anonymous.poster>
>:> | panta-admin <anonymous@panta-rhei.dyndns.org> wrote:
>:> |
>:> |>Hi !
>:> |>
>:> |>>Does anyone know what's going on???
>:> |>
>:> |>Because there is no challenge-response in the mixmaster dest-block feature
>:> |>someone is using it to block all mail2news.
>:> |>I guess this will be fixed very soon.
>:> |>
>:> |>For now, just use a Reliable remailer as exit node:
>:> |>
>:> |>thrasher, bigapple, dingo, hastio, italy, senshi or panta (panta requires
>:> |>hashcash!).
>:> |>
>:> |>Reliable does not have that feature, so it cant be abused.
>:> |>I have built automatic dest-blocking in my reliable mod running at panta
>:> |>and thrasher, but it uses challenge response.
>:> |
>:> | This is obviously the work of cybercriminal Patrick Paris.
>:>
>:> Seems to have a remop signature anyways, someone who knows what he is doing!
>:>
>:> I want to thank him or her anyways. It is a good vulnerability that
>:> he/she has found and by exploiting it the mixmaster maintainers won't be
>:> able to ignore it. I think a mix204b47 will see the surface soon :-)
>:>
>:> Thomas
>:
>:Why doesn't he take a look at the goons from AUK, some of whom possibly might
>:have been upset by your big buddy Doctor Who's comments about Cotse?
>:
>:Why blame FA by default eh?
>:
>:Now that *is* paranoia.
>:
>:The Pink Panther
Pink Panther
I would be very grateful if you would cite evidence of what it is I have supposedly said
that might upset Cotse (or anyone else for that matter).
Doctor Who
I am still paranoid
| |
| Stephen K. Gielda 2004-11-20, 8:45 pm |
| In article <tlovp0pnvus20v19hpnk61puj0allcijt1@4ax.com>, Doctor
Who@any.place says...
> On 20 Nov 2004 16:22:29 -0000, Pink Panther <Pink.Panther@some.domain> wrote:
>
>
> Pink Panther
>
> I would be very grateful if you would cite evidence of what it is I have supposedly said
> that might upset Cotse (or anyone else for that matter).
You mean Cotse is upset about something? Hmmm, maybe that is why the
mail server bit me this morning when I was hot swapping a drive and I
thought the web server was being a bit temperamental. Please stop
taunting my servers.
/steve
--
Check out Cotse's Privacy Watch.
A comprehensive information resource.
http://www.cotse.net/privacy/
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| Thomas J. Boschloo 2004-11-21, 7:45 am |
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Pink Panther wrote:
| Why doesn't he take a look at the goons from AUK, some of whom
possibly might
| have been upset by your big buddy Doctor Who's comments about Cotse?
|
| Why blame FA by default eh?
|
| Now that *is* paranoia.
|
| The Pink Panther
Hi Pink Panther. I don't know about AUK (alt.usenet.kooks), but in the
past we had a poster from ADRU (alt.dads-rights.unmoderated) that showed
again and again being unable to understand remailers.
I think it is quite clever to feed the anti-abuse bots of mixmaster
remailers with false addresses. Somehow I don't think AUK or ADRU
readers would be able to think up something like this.
I think the real abuser would be able to run a Remailer as he or she
seems to know a lot about it. And that is a complement!
Thomas
- --
The Thraddash: "So, what's this? SNORT! An unknown alien species?"
"How wonderful! Someone new to fight!"
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| Pink Panther 2004-11-21, 7:45 am |
| In article <tlovp0pnvus20v19hpnk61puj0allcijt1@4ax.com>
Doctor Who@any.place wrote:
>
> I would be very grateful if you would cite evidence of what it is I have supposedly said
> that might upset Cotse (or anyone else for that matter).
>
> Doctor Who
You continually spam privacy.lie. You own shares in it or what?
> I am still paranoid
You and Big Brother Blunket both.
Hey maybe you are a shill for MI6 and that's why you want us all using
privacy.lie.
The Pink Panther
| |
| Pink Panther 2004-11-22, 7:45 am |
| In article <41a07a79$0$764$3a628fcd@reader10.nntp.hccnet.nl>
"Thomas J. Boschloo" <nospam@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>
> Hi Pink Panther. I don't know about AUK (alt.usenet.kooks), but in the
> past we had a poster from ADRU (alt.dads-rights.unmoderated) that showed
> again and again being unable to understand remailers.
>
> I think it is quite clever to feed the anti-abuse bots of mixmaster
> remailers with false addresses. Somehow I don't think AUK or ADRU
> readers would be able to think up something like this.
I was being somewhat diplomatic Thomas. If you were to check you would find
that many of the people who post to AUK also tend to "hang out" in alt.2600 and
you may have noticed that when Dr Who starts his privacy.lie spamming (and he
doesn't even seem to realise that this is how he comes across to others) that a
certain chatbot aometimes gets involved. That chatbot is a fairly good
indicator of the amount of interest certain people are showing in any
particular newsgroup, and those people do so tend to brand users of remailers
as "anonymous cowards". The fact that some of them may or may not be cotse
users is merely coincidental, but their interest may or may not have been
aroused by the recent debate over privacy.lie instigated as always by Dr Who.
> I think the real abuser would be able to run a Remailer as he or she
> seems to know a lot about it. And that is a complement!
>
> Thomas
In that case, then in all fairness, all operators of reliable remailers must be
suspect too. You can't just blame FA because he is a convenient scapegoat. And
as you say, the good part about this is that it has exposed the flaw in the
current setup. Who is to blame remains open to question until proof of guilt is
found.
Pink Panther
| |
| Doctor Who@any.place 2004-11-22, 5:45 pm |
| On 21 Nov 2004 13:29:50 -0000, Pink Panther <Pink.Panther@some.domain> wrote:
>:In article <tlovp0pnvus20v19hpnk61puj0allcijt1@4ax.com>
>:Doctor Who@any.place wrote:
>:>
>:> I would be very grateful if you would cite evidence of what it is I have supposedly said
>:> that might upset Cotse (or anyone else for that matter).
>:>
>:> Doctor Who
>:
>:You continually spam privacy.lie. You own shares in it or what?
You may not have noticed the latest revisions (all after revision 20) do not mention
Privacy.Li in any shape or form.
Please read it for yourself and then ask yourself whether I am a shill for Privacy.Li.
My previous reasons for stoutly defending them was becasue 1. I have received excellent
service from them and I speak as I find. and 2. Because I had not at that time found a way
around using them (because they were/are the only truly offshore SSH servers).
Sorry to burst your bubble and all that.
Doctor Who
I am still paranoid
| |
| Anonymous via Panta Rhei 2004-11-23, 2:45 am |
| In article <3X2KNSSL38313.327974537@anonymous.poster>
Pink Panther <Pink.Panther@some.domain> wrote:
>
> In article <41a07a79$0$764$3a628fcd@reader10.nntp.hccnet.nl>
> "Thomas J. Boschloo" <nospam@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>
> I was being somewhat diplomatic Thomas. If you were to check you would find
> that many of the people who post to AUK also tend to "hang out" in alt.2600 and
> you may have noticed that when Dr Who starts his privacy.lie spamming (and he
> doesn't even seem to realise that this is how he comes across to others) that a
> certain chatbot aometimes gets involved. That chatbot is a fairly good
> indicator of the amount of interest certain people are showing in any
> particular newsgroup, and those people do so tend to brand users of remailers
> as "anonymous cowards". The fact that some of them may or may not be cotse
> users is merely coincidental, but their interest may or may not have been
> aroused by the recent debate over privacy.lie instigated as always by Dr Who.
>
>
> In that case, then in all fairness, all operators of reliable remailers must be
> suspect too. You can't just blame FA because he is a convenient scapegoat. And
> as you say, the good part about this is that it has exposed the flaw in the
> current setup. Who is to blame remains open to question until proof of guilt is
> found.
>
> Pink Panther
Frog Admin was the greatest remop ever to grace the remailer
community. These people then proceded to drive him away and say
all manner of false things about him. all out of jealosy.
Boschloo, Sassaman, and many others are even now still suffering
from "Frog Envy"
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| Thomas J. Boschloo 2004-11-27, 7:45 am |
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Pink Panther wrote:
<snip>
| In that case, then in all fairness, all operators of reliable
remailers must be
| suspect too. You can't just blame FA because he is a convenient
scapegoat. And
| as you say, the good part about this is that it has exposed the flaw
in the
| current setup. Who is to blame remains open to question until proof of
guilt is
| found.
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| Pink Panther
You are correct of course, but what also seems to point into FA's
direction is the fact that the newsgroup troll seemed obsessed with
'protecting' FA against bad posters like Len and me (And Reliable/JBN2
against the competition of QS). And also take into account that FA had a
flood and *troll* free newsserver for personal and public use. And take
into account that FA did little to show his disapproval of the actions
of Script-Kiddie or whoever he was. I am sure he would have listened to
FA if he told him to stop abusing the group, assuming of course that he
was not FA to begin with!
Regards,
Thomas
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