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The Encryption Factor
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| Italy Anonymous Remailer 2005-01-27, 2:45 am |
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Quantum computing is set to revolutionise the way we work. Trouble is,
it could crack any of today's security codes in a fraction of a second,
says Charles Arthur.
The following partial publication was taken from an article with THE
INDEPENDENT, on-line edition, 26 January, 2005.
"When bankers and spies begin to worry about advances in computing, the
rest of us would do well to take notice. What makes them edgy are the
advances being made in "quantum computing", which is, as might be
expected from the name, as entangled and confusing a field to
understand as the branch of physics on which it is based - quantum
mechanics.
But a banker doesn't need to be able to understand quantum physics to
know that a computer capable of breaking any of the world's encryption
codes as soon as it is turned on could mean serious problems for the
bank's financial system. Systems used to transfer funds around the
world every day rely on encryption that takes milliseconds to encode,
but, in theory, millions of years to crack, by even the most powerful
computers. And governments routinely use encryption to pass on secret
messages.
Quantum computing threatens that, which is why bankers and governments
are paying particular interest to a field that barely existed a decade
ago. Although the physicist Richard Feynman put forward the ideas that
are the basis of the subject in 1982, the wider interest took off only
after a researcher called Peter Shor demonstrated - theoretically - in
1994 that a computer with enough "quantum bits" could effortlessly
crack modern encryption."
The complete article can be read at...
http://news.independent.co.uk/low_r...4538&host=3&dir
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| Midtown 2005-01-27, 2:45 am |
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"Italy Anonymous Remailer" <nobody@See.Comments.Header> wrote in message
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> Quantum computing is set to revolutionise the way we work. Trouble is,
> it could crack any of today's security codes in a fraction of a second,
> says Charles Arthur.
BS => Quantum only generates Keys, "in theory".
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| Anonymous via Panta Rhei 2005-01-28, 7:45 am |
| In article <35rhhnF4nr624U1@individual.net>, Midtown wrote:
>"Italy Anonymous Remailer" <nobody@See.Comments.Header> wrote in message
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>BS => Quantum only generates Keys, "in theory".
Serious Question:
I have funding in 10+ million US Dollar range.
Where can I obtain a Quantum Computer?
Or is this VaporWare(tm)?
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| A.Melon 2005-01-28, 5:45 pm |
| On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, "Midtown" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>"Italy Anonymous Remailer" <nobody@See.Comments.Header> wrote in message
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>BS => Quantum only generates Keys, "in theory".
Quantum computing is a theory at this point. They are able to string
together a few bits at a time, but only under tightly controlled laboratory
conditions, for a few seconds. each additional bit of computing power they
try to add upsets the dynamics of the previous bits.
THe most recent information I have is they've managed 3 bits at once, for a
fraction of a millisecond. A 3 bit "key" is no threat to anyone.
Try to not get too excited just because some government controlled
newspaper ("The Independent" -HAH!) has discovered a new set of buzzwords.
Read the article carefully. "Is set to" "in theory" "may be" "One day" The
article really doesn't say anything solid.
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| Doctor Who@any.place 2005-01-29, 2:45 am |
| On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:05:08 -0800 (PST), A.Melon <juicy@melontraffickers.com> wrote:
>:On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, "Midtown" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>:>"Italy Anonymous Remailer" <nobody@See.Comments.Header> wrote in message
>:>news:SKVFW35N38379.2288888889@anonymous.poster...
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>:>> Quantum computing is set to revolutionise the way we work. Trouble is,
>:>> it could crack any of today's security codes in a fraction of a second,
>:>> says Charles Arthur.
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>:>BS => Quantum only generates Keys, "in theory".
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>:Quantum computing is a theory at this point. They are able to string
>:together a few bits at a time, but only under tightly controlled laboratory
>:conditions, for a few seconds. each additional bit of computing power they
>:try to add upsets the dynamics of the previous bits.
I is more than a theory. I understand that they have achieved entanglement up to a range
of about 150 Km. Many organisations are watching progress very carefully.
>:THe most recent information I have is they've managed 3 bits at once, for a
>:fraction of a millisecond. A 3 bit "key" is no threat to anyone.
What we read is what we are allowed to read. It has proceeded well past that point.
>:Try to not get too excited just because some government controlled
>:newspaper ("The Independent" -HAH!) has discovered a new set of buzzwords.
>:Read the article carefully. "Is set to" "in theory" "may be" "One day" The
>:article really doesn't say anything solid.
It is certainly true that is not likely to affect everyday llife for the majority of us
for many years. It is probably where radio communication was when Marconi claimed it
should be possible to traverse the Atlantic, before his famous experiment. Many at that
time laughed at him. Yep, it has taken a 100 years, but technical progress in his day
was by 1 man and his assistant. Today there may be thousands working quietly behind the
scenes with the assistance of very powerful computers as assistants.
Just my two pennies woroth.
Doctor Who
Get the FAQ here:
http://www.panta-rhei.dyndns.org/pa...ndEncryptionFaq
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| Italy Anonymous Remailer 2005-01-29, 2:45 am |
| In article <jqvlv058cj0p9r563824vhe6jhv4vfjv88@4ax.com>, Doctor
Who@any.place wrote:
>On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:05:08 -0800 (PST), A.Melon
><juicy@melontraffickers.com> wrote:
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>I is more than a theory. I understand that they have achieved
>entanglement up to a range
>of about 150 Km. Many organisations are watching progress very carefully.
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WTF are you talking about???? computers dont have range, unless you throw
them.
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>What we read is what we are allowed to read. It has proceeded well past
>that point.
i suspect as much, but i don't believe without proof
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>It is certainly true that is not likely to affect everyday llife for the
>majority of us
>for many years. It is probably where radio communication was when
>Marconi claimed it
>should be possible to traverse the Atlantic, before his famous experiment.
>Many at that
>time laughed at him. Yep, it has taken a 100 years, but technical
>progress in his day
>was by 1 man and his assistant. Today there may be thousands working
>quietly behind the
>scenes with the assistance of very powerful computers as assistants.
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>Just my two pennies woroth.
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>Doctor Who
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>Get the FAQ here:
>http://www.panta-rhei.dyndns.org/pa...ndEncryptionFaq
no.. tooo XXXXing long in one bite.
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| Doctor Who@any.place 2005-01-29, 5:45 pm |
| On 29 Jan 2005 06:39:46 -0000, nobody@See.Comments.Header (Italy Anonymous Remailer)
wrote:
>:>I is more than a theory. I understand that they have achieved
>:>entanglement up to a range
>:>of about 150 Km. Many organisations are watching progress very carefully.
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>:WTF are you talking about???? computers dont have range, unless you throw
>:them.
On a quantum level measurement is very destructive - even if something is not in a
superposition, just measuring a quantum object changes something, somewhere in the quantum
system. That is why physicists expect to see light as either a particle or a wave,
depending on whether they put the screen or the photo plate in the double slit experiment
- because they're collapsing the superposition of the light, from being particle and wave
at once to being either one or the other.
Quantum cryptography uses this destructiveness, because any message that is intercepted
will be changed through being measured. Knowing someone is reading your messages means
that you can only send information when you know it is not being intercepted.
Assume that two people wish to exchange a message securely, traditionally named Alice and
Bob. Alice initiates the message by sending Bob a key, which will be the mode for
encrypting the message data. This is a random sequence of bits, sent using a certain type
of scheme, which can see two different initial values represent one particular binary
value (0 or 1).
At the present time photons seem to be the most likely particle that might be used, though
others can in theory be used.
Because it cannot be interfered with in anyway there is at present a maximum range over
which these photon data can be sent.
Thus, quantum cryptography is a way to combine the relative ease and convenience of key
exchange in public key cryptography with the ultimate security of a onetime pad.
Forget your existing electronic settings where you can reproduce and amplify data to
ensure it travels over vast distances. Quantum data using entanglement ensures that
nothing can be changed, thus data sent using entangled photons over a distance cannot be
spied on, or the very act of spying (observing) changes the state (and entanglement
collapses). This makes for an ideal way to send a secret key from Alic to Bob.
Strangely the actual entanglement is absolute over immeasurable distances and immediate,
meaning way faster than light! Theoretically two entangled particels could be on
opposite sides of the Galaxy and if one is observed its partner countless light years away
is immediately affected.
Doctor Who
Get the FAQ here:
http://www.panta-rhei.dyndns.org/pa...ndEncryptionFaq
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