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| Borked Pseudo Mailed 2005-11-25, 7:46 am |
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amigo's mail2news gateway (mail2news@remailer.org.uk) is
undergoing further testing. Feel free to try it out. It has
excellent connectivity with major usenet providers. Be warned it
may go down with little or no notice.
IT IS A MAIL2NEWS GATEWAY. IT IS NOT AN ANONYMOUS POSTING
SERVICE.
At present
1) Received: headers are posted. I am trying to work out a way
of removing them and inserting the IP address as an NNTP-Posting-
Host: header instead. Unfortunately my PERL sucks.
2) "X-No-Archive: Yes" is the default. It will be added to all
posts unless "X-No-Archive: No" is specified.
If you want to be anonymous, use a remailer to post the message
onwards to a mail2news gateway. Although amigo is a middleman
remailer, amigo will post directly to it's own mail2news gateway.
Amigo Admin
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| Borked Pseudo Mailed 2005-11-25, 7:46 am |
| In article <f49e47982e3f271aa497ff5ea7dc8229@pseudo.borked.net>
Borked Pseudo Mailed <nobody@pseudo.borked.net> wrote:
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> amigo's mail2news gateway (mail2news@remailer.org.uk) is
> undergoing further testing. Feel free to try it out. It has
> excellent connectivity with major usenet providers. Be warned it
> may go down with little or no notice.
Thanks, I'm on it.
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for abuse and hashcash info.
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| Thrasher Remailer 2005-11-25, 5:47 pm |
| In article <f49e47982e3f271aa497ff5ea7dc8229@pseudo.borked.net>
Borked Pseudo Mailed <nobody@pseudo.borked.net> wrote:
>
>
> If you want to be anonymous, use a remailer to post the message
> onwards to a mail2news gateway. Although amigo is a middleman
> remailer, amigo will post directly to it's own mail2news gateway.
In my initial test I found that not to be the case. It was hopped.
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| Anonymous 2005-11-25, 5:47 pm |
| In article <f49e47982e3f271aa497ff5ea7dc8229@pseudo.borked.net>
Borked Pseudo Mailed <nobody@pseudo.borked.net> wrote:
>
> At present
>
> 1) Received: headers are posted. I am trying to work out a way
> of removing them and inserting the IP address as an NNTP-Posting-
> Host: header instead. Unfortunately my PERL sucks.
Demon mail2news posts Received headers too, so it's not a problem.
If you find a way of removing them I'm not sure of the benefit of
inserting the IP as an NNTP-Posting-Host. Even normal news servers
don't add IP addresses to headers these days.
> 2) "X-No-Archive: Yes" is the default. It will be added to all
> posts unless "X-No-Archive: No" is specified.
Why? Surely it should be up to the person whether they want their
message archived or not. It's usually an opt-in rather than an opt-out.
> If you want to be anonymous, use a remailer to post the message
> onwards to a mail2news gateway. Although amigo is a middleman
> remailer, amigo will post directly to it's own mail2news gateway.
>
> Amigo Admin
Thanks for the new service! There are never enough mail2news servers.
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| Twisty Admin 2005-11-25, 5:47 pm |
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On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 05:20:41 -0700 (MST), Borked Pseudo Mailed
<nobody@pseudo.borked.net> wrote:
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>amigo's mail2news gateway (mail2news@remailer.org.uk) is
>undergoing further testing. Feel free to try it out. It has
>excellent connectivity with major usenet providers. Be warned it
>may go down with little or no notice.
>
>IT IS A MAIL2NEWS GATEWAY. IT IS NOT AN ANONYMOUS POSTING
>SERVICE.
>
>At present
>
>1) Received: headers are posted. I am trying to work out a way
>of removing them and inserting the IP address as an NNTP-Posting-
>Host: header instead. Unfortunately my PERL sucks.
>
>2) "X-No-Archive: Yes" is the default. It will be added to all
>posts unless "X-No-Archive: No" is specified.
>
>If you want to be anonymous, use a remailer to post the message
>onwards to a mail2news gateway. Although amigo is a middleman
>remailer, amigo will post directly to it's own mail2news gateway.
>
>Amigo Admin
>
Worked perfect  You should be very proud. Lightening fast.
Here are the headers from a test post:
Date: 25 Nov 2005 14:22:19 -0000
Message-ID: <GNXATKPU38681.3904976852@twistycreek.com>
From: Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (Ralphie)
Subject: IGNORE BBBBBBBBBBBmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Newsgroups: alt.test
X-No-Archive: yes
Comments: This message did not originate from the above address.
It was automatically remailed by an anonymous re-mail service.
If you do not wish to receive further messages from this re-mailer:
Reply to admin@twistycreek.com with the subject: dest-block
Organization: Anonymous Posting Service
Now if I could only con you into telling me how you did it and sending me a
copy of the scripts, I'll happily join in with you. Would a big pretty
please help?
Thanks for offering the service. It seems to work great!!!!
My warmest and most sincere regards and congratulations,
Twisty Admin
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| TwistyCreek 2005-11-25, 5:47 pm |
| Cool. If this arrives it works.
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| Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer 2005-11-25, 5:47 pm |
| In article <4FQMPKDQ38681.923287037@reece.net.au>
Thrasher Remailer <thrasher@reece.net.au> wrote:
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>
> In my initial test I found that not to be the case. It was hopped.
Hmm number 2!
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| Anonymous 2005-11-25, 5:47 pm |
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In article <4FQMPKDQ38681.923287037@reece.net.au>
Thrasher Remailer <thrasher@reece.net.au> wrote:
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>
> In my initial test I found that not to be the case. It was hopped.
Perhaps someone can tell me the correct string to put in
dest.alw so that Mixmaster will accept messages to any newsgroup
(but preferably will block it if there are more than 4)?
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On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 17:48:37 +0000, Anonymous wrote in
Message-Id: < 20e5dc5cbb966208743707a3eb20daa1@remaile
r.org.uk>:
>
> In article <4FQMPKDQ38681.923287037@reece.net.au>
> Thrasher Remailer <thrasher@reece.net.au> wrote:
>
>
> Perhaps someone can tell me the correct string to put in
> dest.alw so that Mixmaster will accept messages to any newsgroup
> (but preferably will block it if there are more than 4)?
In dest.alw:
/^Newsgroups:/
In header.blk:
/^Newsgroups:.*,.*,.*,.*,/q
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| Anonymous 2005-11-25, 5:47 pm |
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In article < 20e5dc5cbb966208743707a3eb20daa1@remaile
r.org.uk>
Anonymous <devnull@remailer.org.uk> wrote:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Perhaps someone can tell me the correct string to put in
> dest.alw so that Mixmaster will accept messages to any newsgroup
> (but preferably will block it if there are more than 4)?
Hopefully this means I've got it right, at last!
/^Newsgroups: [^,]*$/
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| lcs Mixmaster Remailer 2005-11-25, 5:47 pm |
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In article <pp7eo1d3qhle3h1upir4ft3bj6julvi29i@4ax.com>
Twisty Admin <admin^@^twistycreek^.^com> wrote:
> Now if I could only con you into telling me how you did it and sending me a
> copy of the scripts, I'll happily join in with you. Would a big pretty
> please help?
The scripts are VERY SIMPLE. I saw some of the ones that are in
use elsewhere and nearly had a heart attack. Mine would print
out on a side of A4 paper in 10 point font. And I didn't do much
writing myself, I stole most of it from code that's already on
the net.
It requires the use of INN (under Linux) as the news server. If
you use Windows, DNEWS is an option for you, but the mail2news
that comes with that has a niggling problem of adding a space to
the start of the subject line (causing the subject to change
when following up).
Mail me for more information and let me know exactly what you
want.
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| Thrasher Remailer 2005-11-25, 5:47 pm |
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In article <4FQMPKDQ38681.923287037@reece.net.au>
Thrasher Remailer <thrasher@reece.net.au> wrote:
>
>
> In my initial test I found that not to be the case. It was hopped.
Hmm. Well, this message serves as a test.
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| Thrasher Admin 2005-11-25, 5:47 pm |
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In article <pp7eo1d3qhle3h1upir4ft3bj6julvi29i@4ax.com>
Twisty Admin <admin^@^twistycreek^.^com> wrote:
>
> Now if I could only con you into telling me how you did it and sending me a
> copy of the scripts, I'll happily join in with you. Would a big pretty
> please help?
Have you tried Panta's m2n mod for Reliable? From Panta's help dialog
"All you have to do is to set up a mailbox called mail2news@your-
remailer.com and route email arriving at that address into your remailers
mailbox. You need a working NNTP setup, as messages arriving at the m2news
address are converted into a Anon-Post-To message."
I need to make a couple changes to my setup for it to work (I will get
around to it one day) but if you're using Mercury I'm pretty sure it
should be fine as is.
- --
Cheers,
Thrasher
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| Twisty Admin 2005-11-25, 5:47 pm |
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On 25 Nov 2005 22:49:19 -0000, Thrasher Admin <thrasher_admin@reece.net.au>
wrote:
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>In article <pp7eo1d3qhle3h1upir4ft3bj6julvi29i@4ax.com>
>Twisty Admin <admin^@^twistycreek^.^com> wrote:
>
>
>Have you tried Panta's m2n mod for Reliable? From Panta's help dialog
>"All you have to do is to set up a mailbox called mail2news@your-
>remailer.com and route email arriving at that address into your remailers
>mailbox. You need a working NNTP setup, as messages arriving at the m2news
>address are converted into a Anon-Post-To message."
>
>I need to make a couple changes to my setup for it to work (I will get
>around to it one day) but if you're using Mercury I'm pretty sure it
>should be fine as is.
If I use my regular NNTP service Giganews, is there a way to filter out
some of the message headers in Reliable before it posts?
Many thanks!!!
Twisty Admin
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| Thrasher Admin 2005-11-25, 8:46 pm |
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In article <kd7fo114raf2c9sv2n8arac2se84vvene9@4ax.com>
Twisty Admin <admin^@^twistycreek^.^com> wrote:
> On 25 Nov 2005 22:49:19 -0000, Thrasher Admin <thrasher_admin@reece.net.au>
> wrote:
>
> If I use my regular NNTP service Giganews, is there a way to filter out
> some of the message headers in Reliable before it posts?
Not to my knowledge. It should be posted as your standard remailer post,
similar to this one. What headers do you want to drop?
- --
Cheers,
Thrasher.
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| panta-admin 2005-11-25, 8:46 pm |
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Hi !
>If I use my regular NNTP service Giganews, is there a way to filter out
>some of the message headers in Reliable before it posts?
The Panta Mail2News mod will only pass these headers on:
If LCase(Left(a, 10)) = "x-hashcash" Then Dst = Dst + a + vbCrLf
If LCase(Left(a, 7)) = "subject" Then Dst = Dst + a + vbCrLf
If LCase(Left(a, 4)) = "date" Then Dst = Dst + a + vbCrLf
If LCase(Left(a, 9)) = "reference" Then Dst = Dst + a + vbCrLf
If LCase(Left(a, 11)) = "x-noarchive" Then Dst = Dst + a + vbCrLf
If LCase(Left(a, 10)) = "message-id" Then Dst = Dst + a + vbCrLf
All other headers will be dropped.
Please see my other post too, I just released a new version with some
bugfixes.
Cheers,
panta-admin
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| BiKiKii Admin 2005-11-25, 8:46 pm |
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On 26 Nov 2005, panta-admin wrote:
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>Signature: 0xA6A032C8 Panta Rhei Admin DSS [Expires 23.02.2008]
>Date: Fri Nov 25 19:43:18 2005
>Status: OK (Invalid)
>
>If LCase(Left(a, 11)) = "x-noarchive" Then Dst = Dst + a + vbCrLf
>
Should be:
If LCase(Left(a, 12)) = "x-no-archive" Then Dst = Dst + a + vbCrLf
(?)
BiKiKii
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| Stephen K. Gielda 2005-11-25, 8:46 pm |
| In article <pp7eo1d3qhle3h1upir4ft3bj6julvi29i@4ax.com>,
admin^@^twistycreek^.^com says...
> Now if I could only con you into telling me how you did it and sending me a
> copy of the scripts, I'll happily join in with you. Would a big pretty
> please help?
>
>
I have a very basic script I wrote for mail2news using inn avaliable
here if you are interested:
http://www.cotse.net/mail2news.pl.txt
I haven't even looked at it since 2004, but it uses PERL with a mod, it
drops all headers but specifically named. Hack away at it and turn it
into whatever you want.
/steve
--
The Missing Amendment
The Right To Privacy
http://www.themissingamendment.org
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| Stephen K. Gielda 2005-11-25, 8:46 pm |
| In article <MPG.1df17ebcd1035c66989bd9@news.newsreader.com>,
steve@packetderm.com.bogus says...
> In article <pp7eo1d3qhle3h1upir4ft3bj6julvi29i@4ax.com>,
> admin^@^twistycreek^.^com says...
> I have a very basic script I wrote for mail2news using inn avaliable
> here if you are interested:
>
> http://www.cotse.net/mail2news.pl.txt
>
> I haven't even looked at it since 2004, but it uses PERL with a mod, it
> drops all headers but specifically named. Hack away at it and turn it
> into whatever you want.
Oh yeah, I don't know if I'd recommend using it in it's default form
because it has no filtering. I had started it with the intention of
adding a lot more features, including dupe check, throttles, and
filters, but got tied up in other things (at that time the mixmaster web
interface I released) and never finished it. Maybe I'll take it on
again in the future when I have some free time. But right now the code
could be useful to give yourself some ideas if you have a perl
background.
/steve
--
The Missing Amendment
The Right To Privacy
http://www.themissingamendment.org
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| panta-admin 2005-11-26, 7:46 am |
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Hi !
>
>Should be:
>
>If LCase(Left(a, 12)) = "x-no-archive" Then Dst = Dst + a + vbCrLf
It most definitely should be !
I have messed up my source tree in an attempt to get a cvs system running
here.
Thanks for pointing it out.
Fixed in new binary.
Cheers,
panta-admin
PS: Thats the power of open source. So I put the sources up as well. Now.
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for abuse and hashcash info.
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| Fritz Wuehler 2005-11-26, 5:46 pm |
| In article < 25ca8e7842f708c8d8f5ecaf32a58325@remaile
r.org.uk>
Anonymous <devnull@remailer.org.uk> wrote:
>
> Hopefully this means I've got it right, at last!
It's working well. A couple of things I've noticed are your Received
header sometimes doesn't say Received, but is just a blank space. It
looks weird. Look in the headers of your post that I'm replying to and
you'll see what I mean.
You claim this is a mail2news server and not an anonymous service, but
the Organization header says "Anonymous Posting Service". Maybe remove
that header completely or change it.
Other than that it seems very fast and messages sent through it have
appeared on all the news servers I have access to.
| |
| Anonymous 2005-11-26, 8:45 pm |
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In article
<38ba9e1152006b817d88a3ec58b5637a@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>
Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-
200511.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:
>
> In article < 25ca8e7842f708c8d8f5ecaf32a58325@remaile
r.org.uk>
> Anonymous <devnull@remailer.org.uk> wrote:
>
> It's working well. A couple of things I've noticed are your Received
> header sometimes doesn't say Received, but is just a blank space. It
> looks weird. Look in the headers of your post that I'm replying to and
> you'll see what I mean.
Not quite sure I follow - the headers on my message, here, look
like this:
Received: from mixmaster by jupiter.amigo.co.uk with local (Exim
4.54)
id 1Efhvp-0003fS-RX
for mail2news@remailer.org.uk; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 18:04:21 +0000
From: Anonymous <devnull@remailer.org.uk>
Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address
above.
It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software.
Please report problems or inappropriate use to the
remailer administrator at <abuse@remailer.org.uk>.
X-No-Archive: Yes
etc.
> You claim this is a mail2news server and not an anonymous service, but
> the Organization header says "Anonymous Posting Service". Maybe remove
> that header completely or change it.
The Organization header is only added if not present. I've
altered it now though, to "unknown".
> Other than that it seems very fast and messages sent through it have
> appeared on all the news servers I have access to.
Thanks for the testing. Messages are posted to the newsserver in
realtime and I have some pretty top notch peering around the
world so distribution should be almost instantaneous.
Amigo
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| Anonymous 2005-11-26, 8:45 pm |
| In article < 594ca9edb3cc303fe0233deeade4aa5c@remaile
r.org.uk>
Anonymous <devnull@remailer.org.uk> wrote:
>
>
> Not quite sure I follow - the headers on my message, here, look
> like this:
>
> Received: from mixmaster by jupiter.amigo.co.uk with local (Exim
> 4.54)
> id 1Efhvp-0003fS-RX
> for mail2news@remailer.org.uk; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 18:04:21 +0000
Strange. On this news server (news.bananasplit.info) your headers look
like this:
id 1EgBI7-00014i-Ib
for mail2news@remailer.org.uk; Sun, 27 Nov 2005 01:25:19 +0000
From: Anonymous <devnull@remailer.org.uk>
Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above.
It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software.
Please report problems or inappropriate use to the
remailer administrator at <abuse@remailer.org.uk>.
X-No-Archive: Yes
References: <f49e47982e3f271aa497ff5ea7dc8229@pseudo.borked.net> <4FQMPKDQ38681.923287037@reece.net.au> < 20e5dc5cbb966208743707a3eb20daa1@remaile
r.org.uk> < 25ca8e7842f708c8d8f5ecaf32a58325@remaile
r.org.uk> <38ba9e1152006b817d88a3ec58b5637a@msgid.frell.the
remailer.net>
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
Subject: Re: amigo mail2news
Message-ID: < 594ca9edb3cc303fe0233deeade4aa5c@remaile
r.org.uk>
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 01:25:19 +0000
Organization: Unknown
Path: news.bananasplit.info!news.wiretrip.org!border2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeeder.wxs.nl!zen.net.uk!dedekind.zen.co.uk!news.amigo.co.uk!remailer.org.uk!mail2news
Xref: news.bananasplit.info alt.privacy.anon-server:47700
Maybe it's the server. Zax?
| |
| Igenlode Wordsmith 2005-11-27, 2:46 am |
| TwistyCreek <anon@comments.header> wrote in message <RZJ61Y2938681.4560648148@twistycreek.com>
> Cool. If this arrives it works.
>
by jupiter.amigo.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.54)
id 1EffxT-0001HN-P7
for mail2news@remailer.org.uk; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 15:57:56 +0000
25 Nov 2005 10:57:55 -0500
25 Nov 2005 10:56:44 -0500
From: TwistyCreek <anon@comments.header>
Date: 25 Nov 2005 15:56:44 -0000
Message-ID: <RZJ61Y2938681.4560648148@twistycreek.com>
Subject: Re: amigo mail2news
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
References: <f49e47982e3f271aa497ff5ea7dc8229@pseudo.borked.net>
Comments: This message did not originate from the above address.
It was automatically remailed by an anonymous re-mail service.
If you do not wish to receive further messages from this re-mailer:
Reply to admin@twistycreek.com with the subject: dest-block
X-No-Archive: Yes
Organization: Anonymous Posting Service
Something funny seems to have happened with the Received: header
stripping on that one :-)
Any chance of a no_spam variant for nym users?
--
Igenlode Visit the Ivory Tower http://ivory.150m.com/Tower/
** I 'grew up' once. Didn't like it, so I gave it up. **
| |
| Anonymous 2005-11-27, 7:45 am |
| In article < dc86137b5db18c4b9d8407bb5b04af4c@remaile
r.org.uk>
Anonymous <devnull@remailer.org.uk> wrote:
>
> In article < 594ca9edb3cc303fe0233deeade4aa5c@remaile
r.org.uk>
> Anonymous <devnull@remailer.org.uk> wrote:
>
> Strange. On this news server (news.bananasplit.info) your headers look
> like this:
>
>
> id 1EgBI7-00014i-Ib
> for mail2news@remailer.org.uk; Sun, 27 Nov 2005 01:25:19 +0000
> From: Anonymous <devnull@remailer.org.uk>
> Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above.
> It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software.
> Please report problems or inappropriate use to the
> remailer administrator at <abuse@remailer.org.uk>.
Got to Google OK. Don't know who's stripping it, but it appears
to leave here intact.
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.privacy.anon-
server/msg/2aac50a9fef0d9fb?dmode=source&hl=en
Received: from mixmaster by jupiter.amigo.co.uk with local (Exim
4.54)
id 1Efhvp-0003fS-RX
for mail2n...@remailer.org.uk; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 18:04:21 +0000
From: Anonymous <devn...@remailer.org.uk>
Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address
above.
It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software.
Please report problems or inappropriate use to the
remailer administrator at <a...@remailer.org.uk>.
| |
| A.Melon 2005-11-27, 5:46 pm |
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In article <6ATF43RU38681.3416319444@anonymous.poster>
Anonymous <Use-Author-Supplied-Address@[127.1]> wrote:
>
> In article <f49e47982e3f271aa497ff5ea7dc8229@pseudo.borked.net>
> Borked Pseudo Mailed <nobody@pseudo.borked.net> wrote:
>
> Demon mail2news posts Received headers too, so it's not a problem.
> If you find a way of removing them I'm not sure of the benefit of
> inserting the IP as an NNTP-Posting-Host. Even normal news servers
> don't add IP addresses to headers these days.
I agree. The information gleaned from the Received headers are useless
when a remailer is used, and amigo's clear that the mail2news is *not* an
anonymizing service in itself. I guess things would look cleaner if they
were removed, but it's no big deal.
>
> Why? Surely it should be up to the person whether they want their
> message archived or not. It's usually an opt-in rather than an opt-out.
I don't have a problem with No Archive being the default, either. Amigo
may have his own reasons for inserting it, and thus I view it as just a
characteristic of using the gateway. Remember the Freedom gateway used to
add a disclaimer. Same thing, IMO, a choice of the operator.
>
> Thanks for the new service! There are never enough mail2news servers.
No there are not. I hope the amigo gateway stays up for good. My testing
has shown that at this time it is the champion as far as having the best
results with each exit remailer.
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 10:53:53 +0000, Anonymous wrote in
Message-Id: < 6f3fde31fcd9685d446c2af2ef334ac4@remaile
r.org.uk>:
[vbcol=seagreen]
I had similar problems with a script I wrote to post mailing list
messages to local.list.foo newsgroups. The problem for me was the
multi-line nature of the Received headers. I now strip any header lines
that begin with whitespace before trying to post them.
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pub 1024D/8ED57743 2003-07-08 Bananasplit Operator
Key fingerprint = 796F 67E0 E890 A0BB BDAE EBB4 94A6 7A09 8ED5 7743
uid Admin <admin.bananasplit.info>
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| Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer 2005-11-29, 2:46 am |
| Anonymous <devnull@remailer.org.uk> wrote in message < dc86137b5db18c4b9d8407bb5b04af4c@remaile
r.org.uk>
> Strange. On this news server (news.bananasplit.info) your headers look
> like this:
>
>
> id 1EgBI7-00014i-Ib
> for mail2news@remailer.org.uk; Sun, 27 Nov 2005 01:25:19 +0000
> From: Anonymous <devnull@remailer.org.uk>
> Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above.
> It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software.
> Please report problems or inappropriate use to the
> remailer administrator at <abuse@remailer.org.uk>.
> X-No-Archive: Yes
> References: <f49e47982e3f271aa497ff5ea7dc8229@pseudo.borked.net> <4FQMPKDQ38681.923287037@reece.net.au> < 20e5dc5cbb966208743707a3eb20daa1@remaile
r.org.uk> < 25ca8e7842f708c8d8f5ecaf32a58325@remaile
r.org.uk> <38ba9e1152006b817d88a3ec58b5637a@msgid.frell.t
heremailer.net>
> Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
> Subject: Re: amigo mail2news
> Message-ID: < 594ca9edb3cc303fe0233deeade4aa5c@remaile
r.org.uk>
> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 01:25:19 +0000
> Organization: Unknown
> Path: news.bananasplit.info!news.wiretrip.org!border2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeeder.wxs.nl!zen.net.uk!dedekind.zen.co.uk!news.amigo.co.uk!remailer.org.uk!mail2news
> Xref: news.bananasplit.info alt.privacy.anon-server:47700
>
> Maybe it's the server. Zax?
>
No I'm seeing the same thing here on clara.net servers
| |
| Stephen K. Gielda 2005-11-29, 2:46 am |
| In article <20051129055502.153001717B@mail.cypherpunks.to>,
nobody@cypherpunks.to says...
> Anonymous <devnull@remailer.org.uk> wrote in message < dc86137b5db18c4b9d8407bb5b04af4c@remaile
r.org.uk>
>
[vbcol=seagreen]
> No I'm seeing the same thing here on clara.net servers
This is the reason I used the Email-Simple mod, it's far easier to work
with multi-line headers in PERL with it. Anyone working with a Perl
mail2news gate can take a look at http://www.cotse.net/mail2news.pl.txt
for a basic mail2news example using it if you want.
That script can be made even smaller fairly easily, not sure what I was
thinking using mult print lines and writing the file then rereading it
in, other than it was quick and dirty at the time. As for the writing
and rereading, I must have had a reason, though damned if I can remember
why I chose disk i/o rather than work all in mem.
/steve
--
The Missing Amendment
The Right To Privacy
http://www.themissingamendment.org
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| Nomen Nescio 2005-11-29, 5:50 pm |
| In article <20051129055502.153001717B@mail.cypherpunks.to>
Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer <nobody@cypherpunks.to> wrote:
>
> Anonymous <devnull@remailer.org.uk> wrote in message < dc86137b5db18c4b9d8407bb5b04af4c@remaile
r.org.uk>
>
.theremailer.net>[vbcol=seagreen]
> No I'm seeing the same thing here on clara.net servers
Same here on my NSP.
| |
| Anonymous 2005-11-29, 5:50 pm |
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Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer
<nobody@cypherpunks.to> wrote:
>
> Anonymous <devnull@remailer.org.uk> wrote in message < dc86137b5db18c4b9d8407bb5b04af4c@remaile
r.org.uk>
>
.theremailer.net>[vbcol=seagreen]
> No I'm seeing the same thing here on clara.net servers
Ah well - I know it left here OK because I read mail from a
different news server (another one of mine) and I read it fine.
It's also stored fine at google. Maybe some servers strip it,
maybe it's one of the servers in the transit 9which will be
different every time) or maybe it's your news client.
Doesn't really matter anyway - only reason I want it is in case
of usenet abuse. Then I can point the finger elsewhere, or if
(hopefully not) it becomes necessary, even bar certain IPs from
using the gateway. I will try working on creating an NNTP-
Posting-Host: header from the information in the Received header
when I get the time.
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