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| Tom Giarmo 2005-05-14, 1:04 pm |
| On Thu, 12 May 2005 03:15:57 GMT, Eldridge Currie wrote:
> "me qsuser" <qsuser@notmail.com> wrote in message
> news:200505100346.j4A3kHM6025496@bluebottle-fe4.bluebottle.com...
>
> I agree 100%
XXXXen why? What makes his shit so special? How do you know his encryption
shit isn't already exposed?
Why not Cotse or Ultimate Anonymity?
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| Nomen Nescio 2005-05-14, 1:04 pm |
| In article <19ccrs3zsd50q.6zbh5mtfmlxk$.dlg@40tude.net>
Tom Giarmo <TomGiarmoI@use.net> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 12 May 2005 03:15:57 GMT, Eldridge Currie wrote:
>
>
> XXXXen why? What makes his shit so special? How do you know his encryption
> shit isn't already exposed?
>
> Why not Cotse or Ultimate Anonymity?
It's apparent you don't know the differences between the shit you're
talking about. QS and JBN are free GUI frontends for mixmaster, an
anonymous remailing client/server for use with the remailer network. The
"encryption shit" is as good as pgp and mixmaster provide.
Cotse and Ultimate Anonymity are paid-for services designed to give you
some privacy while conducting your business on the Internet through
proxying, tunnels, and so forth.
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| Eldridge Currie 2005-05-14, 1:04 pm |
|
"Tom Giarmo" <TomGiarmoI@use.net> wrote in message
news:19ccrs3zsd50q.6zbh5mtfmlxk$.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Thu, 12 May 2005 03:15:57 GMT, Eldridge Currie wrote:
>
>
> XXXXen why? What makes his shit so special? How do you know his encryption
> shit isn't already exposed?
>
> Why not Cotse or Ultimate Anonymity?
Please see Nomen Nescio's message above. I agree with him/her and yes I
know that is a remailer name before you go off on that. lol
Eldridge
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| obnoxios fuck 2005-05-14, 1:04 pm |
| In article <222a34d87188617e9b4b4d9113314543@dizum.com>
Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
>
> In article <19ccrs3zsd50q.6zbh5mtfmlxk$.dlg@40tude.net>
> Tom Giarmo <TomGiarmoI@use.net> wrote:
>
> It's apparent you don't know the differences between the shit you're
> talking about. QS and JBN are free GUI frontends for mixmaster, an
> anonymous remailing client/server for use with the remailer network. The
> "encryption shit" is as good as pgp and mixmaster provide.
>
> Cotse and Ultimate Anonymity are paid-for services designed to give you
> some privacy while conducting your business on the Internet through
> proxying, tunnels, and so forth.
"paid-for services" are not worth spit for REAL anonymity and
privacy.
roll your own, use jbn, use quicksilver, use reliable, use
mixmaster.. hell, if ya got the balls enough use mixminion.
dont ever waste ya money on "paid-for services"
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| Stephen K. Gielda 2005-05-14, 1:04 pm |
| In article <19ccrs3zsd50q.6zbh5mtfmlxk$.dlg@40tude.net>,
TomGiarmoI@use.net says...
> On Thu, 12 May 2005 03:15:57 GMT, Eldridge Currie wrote:
>
>
> XXXXen why? What makes his shit so special? How do you know his encryption
> shit isn't already exposed?
>
> Why not Cotse or Ultimate Anonymity?
>
QS is just an interface to the remailers, as is JBN. They make things
easier, key management, wrapping in encryption, etc. Web interfaces are
very basic interfaces, more limited than quicksilver or jbn. Some of
the pay services like cotse and UA offer a web interface to the
mixmaster remailers. But if that's all you want, there are plenty of
free ones available. I even made the source code to ours available for
others to run if they want.
In my opinion, if all you want is an interface to the remailers to post
to usenet or send mail, use QS or JBN, or at the very least run the web
interface on your own machine, rather than use a remote web interface.
It's difficulty to get anonymity from remote services, you have to work
at it. You have to be anon to the remote service to be sure.
/steve
--
Cotse.Net
Comprehensive Privacy Resources.
http://www.cotse.net/resources.html
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| Thomas J. Boschloo 2005-05-14, 1:04 pm |
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obnoxios XXXX wrote:
> In article <222a34d87188617e9b4b4d9113314543@dizum.com>
> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> "paid-for services" are not worth spit for REAL anonymity and
> privacy.
>
> roll your own, use jbn, use quicksilver, use reliable, use
> mixmaster.. hell, if ya got the balls enough use mixminion.
>
> dont ever waste ya money on "paid-for services"
I think the Freedom Network was pretty nice and easy to use..
You could pay anonymously by getting a 'challenge' and snail mailing
that anonymously with 50 bucks to the operators of the Freedom network..
Pretty safe thus and better then browsing the web unprotected like you
probably do..
Thomas
- --
"Nothing is true. Everything is permitted" - W.S. Burroughs, Naked Lunch
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| nemo_outis 2005-05-14, 1:04 pm |
| >
> I think the Freedom Network was pretty nice and easy to use..
> You could pay anonymously by getting a 'challenge' and snail mailing
> that anonymously with 50 bucks to the operators of the Freedom
> network.. Pretty safe thus and better then browsing the web
> unprotected like you probably do..
>
> Thomas
The tor network has essentially the same functionality as the old Freedom
network and is $50 cheaper (i.e., free!).
Regards,
PS
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| Tom Giarmo 2005-05-15, 8:29 am |
| On Fri, 13 May 2005 23:00:05 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio wrote:
>
> It's apparent you don't know the differences between the shit you're
> talking about.
Ya' think, you dumb XXXXen? Why do you think I asked the question,
Dickhead?
>QS and JBN are free GUI frontends for mixmaster, an
> anonymous remailing client/server for use with the remailer network. The
> "encryption shit" is as good as pgp and mixmaster provide.
How do you know?
> Cotse and Ultimate Anonymity are paid-for services designed to give you
> some privacy while conducting your business on the Internet through
> proxying, tunnels, and so forth.
Cotse encrypts, does email with no IP, proxies Internet, has remailers,
encryption is zero expense, so again what is so XXXXen good about his shit?
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| Tom Giarmo 2005-05-15, 8:29 am |
| On 14 May 2005 04:29:28 -0000, obnoxios XXXX wrote:
>
> "paid-for services" are not worth spit for REAL anonymity and
> privacy.
>
> roll your own, use jbn, use quicksilver, use reliable, use
> mixmaster.. hell, if ya got the balls enough use mixminion.
>
> dont ever waste ya money on "paid-for services"
Well, XXXXen a ducken, I haven't got a year to learn all that shit.
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| Tom Giarmo 2005-05-15, 8:29 am |
| On Sat, 14 May 2005 01:09:33 -0400, Stephen K. Gielda wrote:
> In article <19ccrs3zsd50q.6zbh5mtfmlxk$.dlg@40tude.net>,
> TomGiarmoI@use.net says...
>
> QS is just an interface to the remailers, as is JBN. They make things
> easier, key management, wrapping in encryption, etc. Web interfaces are
> very basic interfaces, more limited than quicksilver or jbn. Some of
> the pay services like cotse and UA offer a web interface to the
> mixmaster remailers. But if that's all you want, there are plenty of
> free ones available. I even made the source code to ours available for
> others to run if they want.
>
> In my opinion, if all you want is an interface to the remailers to post
> to usenet or send mail, use QS or JBN, or at the very least run the web
> interface on your own machine, rather than use a remote web interface.
> It's difficulty to get anonymity from remote services, you have to work
> at it. You have to be anon to the remote service to be sure.
>
> /steve
Appreciate the reasonable answer. Considering you TOSsed my butt off your
service a few dozen times. NYUKLES SUPREME!
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| Italy Anonymous Remailer 2005-05-15, 8:29 am |
| In article <fv6rjksj3eto$.1pl64npwp68c.dlg@40tude.net>
Tom Giarmo <TomGiarmoI@use.net> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 13 May 2005 23:00:05 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio wrote:
>
>
> Ya' think, you dumb XXXXen? Why do you think I asked the question,
> Dickhead?
Sorry, my fault. If I had taken the 30 seconds to google and find out what
you are, I wouldn't have wasted the 30 seconds it took to provide my
answer. Now that I've wasted 90 seconds on you, I really feel like an
idiot. It won't happen again.
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| Thrasher Remailer 2005-05-15, 8:30 am |
| In <opw5wefsa8uq$.ca28fr4mnj9c.dlg@40tude.net>, TomGiarmoI@use.net wrote:
>On 14 May 2005 04:29:28 -0000, obnoxios XXXX wrote:
>
>
>Well, XXXXen a ducken, I haven't got a year to learn all that shit.
If it takes you a year to learn to use the proper tools for anonymity and
privacy, then you will probably never achieve much.
It took me a week to learn PGP and JBN, another week to puzzle out QS and
after about two months i was using a dos box, edit and pgp 2.6.3i to
handroll my own multi-hop remailer msgs with 100% reliability.
If a no account clueless wonder like myself can do it, anybody can.
But if you're not willing to work at it at least a little, you'll never
achieve secure anonymity.
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| Thomas J. Boschloo 2005-05-15, 9:16 am |
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Thrasher Remailer wrote:
<snip>
> If it takes you a year to learn to use the proper tools for anonymity and
> privacy, then you will probably never achieve much.
>
> It took me a week to learn PGP and JBN, another week to puzzle out QS and
> after about two months i was using a dos box, edit and pgp 2.6.3i to
> handroll my own multi-hop remailer msgs with 100% reliability.
>
> If a no account clueless wonder like myself can do it, anybody can.
>
> But if you're not willing to work at it at least a little, you'll never
> achieve secure anonymity.
The next step is to use mixmaster 2.0.4b46 from the command line. Just
type 'mixmaste' and follow the instructions presented. You can press
enter when it asks for a filename and then type your message. Then you
can press [Ctrl]-[z] to end your message.
Then you do 'mixmaster -S' to empty the remailer pool and you will get a
new file called something like 'outfile.0'. Make sure the POOLSIZE is
set to 0 and RATE is 100 in mixmaste.con if this doesn't work at first.
Then send the message in that file to the first hop and remove the first
two lines (with the To: field) from this message.
The step after that is to create a nym using Mixmaster, but I never got
that far myself.
Oh, and don't forget to update your remailer stats before you send
anything using 2.0.4b46, it's an old version with outdated stats.. You
don't have to update them every time though if you use reliable
remailers in your chains (like Dizum, Randseed and Dingo e.g.).
Regards,
Thomas
- --
"I don't know, it just seems to be so incredibly beautiful. It's magic."
- - emmel, alt.games.creatures, may 2005
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| Thomas J. Boschloo 2005-05-15, 9:16 am |
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Tom Giarmo wrote:
<snip>
>
>
> How do you know?
Check the sources yourself and check the specs for Mixmaster. You will
find that Mixmaster uses 168 bit 3DES encryption, 1024 bit RSA
encryption and 128 bit MD5 hashes. Same as in PGP.. You don't get this
kind of security from a service like Cotse (Web interface to Mixmaster)
but that is not the main reason such services exist after all..
hth,
Thomas
- --
"I don't know, it just seems to be so incredibly beautiful. It's magic."
- - emmel, alt.games.creatures, may 2005
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| Stephen K. Gielda 2005-05-16, 5:46 pm |
| In article <42875c68$0$772$3a628fcd@reader10.nntp.hccnet.nl>,
nospam@hccnet.nl.invalid says...
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> Tom Giarmo wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>
> Check the sources yourself and check the specs for Mixmaster. You will
> find that Mixmaster uses 168 bit 3DES encryption, 1024 bit RSA
> encryption and 128 bit MD5 hashes. Same as in PGP.. You don't get this
> kind of security from a service like Cotse (Web interface to Mixmaster)
> but that is not the main reason such services exist after all..
How do you figure? SSL to our web/pop/smtp is 256 bit AES and PGP keys
for our webmail can be up to 2048 bit and MD5 is the same 128 bit
fingerprint. And that is just for our general mail features. But you
are discussing the mixmaster interface, that is only a web interface to
the mixmaster binary, meaning mixmaster itself handles all encryption
from that point. So it's exactly the same encryption. The difference
lies in that you'd be accessing the interface via AES-256 to a remote
server. That means you must "trust" the remote server to some extent.
For that reason it's better for you if you run the interface local.
/steve
--
Free Privacy Resources
http://www.cotse.net/resources.html
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| Thomas J. Boschloo 2005-05-16, 5:46 pm |
| -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Stephen K. Gielda wrote:
> In article <42875c68$0$772$3a628fcd@reader10.nntp.hccnet.nl>,
> nospam@hccnet.nl.invalid says...
>
>
>
> How do you figure? SSL to our web/pop/smtp is 256 bit AES and PGP keys
> for our webmail can be up to 2048 bit and MD5 is the same 128 bit
> fingerprint. And that is just for our general mail features. But you
> are discussing the mixmaster interface, that is only a web interface to
> the mixmaster binary, meaning mixmaster itself handles all encryption
> from that point. So it's exactly the same encryption. The difference
> lies in that you'd be accessing the interface via AES-256 to a remote
> server. That means you must "trust" the remote server to some extent.
> For that reason it's better for you if you run the interface local.
>
> /steve
Hey, I think nothing but the best of your services and once even thought
about subscribing to them! (for e-mail only and maybe newsgroups if you
have that).
I only meant to say that with running mixmaster on your own machine you
can do the hopping yourself, as you also say in your last line (above).
Maybe my use of the bit sizes and crypto algos was a bit confusing. Of
course you use the best crypto available for https access!
Sorry for the misunderstanding, I guess these kinds of posts of mine
were also the reason Frog-Admin dropped me in the killfile..
I will visit your site and browse your site some to make up for this..
<http://www.cotse.net>
High Regards,
Thomas
- --
"I don't know, it just seems to be so incredibly beautiful. It's magic."
- - emmel, alt.games.creatures, may 2005
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| Tom Giarmo 2005-05-16, 5:46 pm |
|
On 15 May 2005 05:15:13 -0000, Thrasher Remailer wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> If it takes you a year to learn to use the proper tools for anonymity and
> privacy, then you will probably never achieve much.
>
> It took me a week to learn PGP and JBN, another week to puzzle out QS and
> after about two months i was using a dos box, edit and pgp 2.6.3i to
> handroll my own multi-hop remailer msgs with 100% reliability.
>
> If a no account clueless wonder like myself can do it, anybody can.
Me senseth you are beingeth modesteth.
> But if you're not willing to work at it at least a little, you'll never
> achieve secure anonymity.
I'm willing to work, fukken wouldn't be here if I didn't. But I look at
this stuff, used to work at Symantec, and it still looks like a mountain of
fukken shit to climb.
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| Tom Giarmo 2005-05-16, 5:46 pm |
| On Sun, 15 May 2005 16:10:51 +0200, Thomas J. Boschloo wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> Thrasher Remailer wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>
> The next step is to use mixmaster 2.0.4b46 from the command line. Just
> type 'mixmaste' and follow the instructions presented. You can press
> enter when it asks for a filename and then type your message. Then you
> can press [Ctrl]-[z] to end your message.
>
> Then you do 'mixmaster -S' to empty the remailer pool and you will get a
> new file called something like 'outfile.0'. Make sure the POOLSIZE is
> set to 0 and RATE is 100 in mixmaste.con if this doesn't work at first.
>
> Then send the message in that file to the first hop and remove the first
> two lines (with the To: field) from this message.
>
> The step after that is to create a nym using Mixmaster, but I never got
> that far myself.
>
> Oh, and don't forget to update your remailer stats before you send
> anything using 2.0.4b46, it's an old version with outdated stats.. You
> don't have to update them every time though if you use reliable
> remailers in your chains (like Dizum, Randseed and Dingo e.g.).
>
> Regards,
> Thomas
WAHT THE FUKKEN IS ALL THIS SHIT? i appreciate the post but even to an
Italian like me, this looks like Latin and not the pig variety.
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| Tom Giarmo 2005-05-16, 5:46 pm |
| On Sun, 15 May 2005 16:16:24 +0200, Thomas J. Boschloo wrote:
>
> Check the sources yourself and check the specs for Mixmaster. You will
> find that Mixmaster uses 168 bit 3DES encryption, 1024 bit RSA
> encryption and 128 bit MD5 hashes. Same as in PGP.. You don't get this
> kind of security from a service like Cotse (Web interface to Mixmaster)
> but that is not the main reason such services exist after all..
>
> hth,
> Thomas
Even if I do, I can go to sci.crypt and the fukkeners over there argue in
Greek but can't agree if this shit is good, great or overblown whale dung.
| |
| Stephen K. Gielda 2005-05-16, 8:45 pm |
| In article <4288e79b$0$776$3a628fcd@reader20.nntp.hccnet.nl>,
nospam@hccnet.nl.invalid says...
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> Stephen K. Gielda wrote:
>
> Hey, I think nothing but the best of your services and once even thought
> about subscribing to them! (for e-mail only and maybe newsgroups if you
> have that).
I couldn't live without the e-mail service, much of it's features were
built for our own use. For example, I have over 40 domains, many
contact addresses, lots of spam from all, I needed something powerful.
That is where the mail came about. Our newsgroups, on the other hand,
suck. It's just a basic web interface for reading and posting. It's a
weak area in the service, but the need has also not been that strong.
Most just use one of the SSH servers to tunnel to a third party usenet
provider.
>
> I only meant to say that with running mixmaster on your own machine you
> can do the hopping yourself, as you also say in your last line (above).
> Maybe my use of the bit sizes and crypto algos was a bit confusing. Of
> course you use the best crypto available for https access!
It's always best to run it local, use QS, JBN, or even the web
interface, any of them are just a basic GUI snapped onto the mixmaster
binary. Less people to trust that way.
>
> Sorry for the misunderstanding, I guess these kinds of posts of mine
> were also the reason Frog-Admin dropped me in the killfile..
You can't go through life never making any mistakes nor ever
misunderstanding something. It's how you react to the mistake or
misunderstanding that defines you.
>
> I will visit your site and browse your site some to make up for this..
> <http://www.cotse.net>
lol. No need. Although if you've never been, I'll bet you'll find it
to be much different than you may have thought it would be. If that
makes any sense 
/steve
--
Free Privacy Resources
http://www.cotse.net/resources.html
| |
| Tom Giarmo 2005-05-16, 8:45 pm |
| On Mon, 16 May 2005 20:32:45 +0200, Thomas J. Boschloo wrote:
>
> Hey, I think nothing but the best of your services and once even thought
> about subscribing to them! (for e-mail only and maybe newsgroups if you
> have that).
Quit sukking up to Gielda. You don't know if he has Usenet?What the fukken
have you been doing, accessing his web drunk?
| |
| Tom Giarmo 2005-05-16, 8:45 pm |
| On Mon, 16 May 2005 19:53:55 -0400, Stephen K. Gielda wrote:
> Our newsgroups, on the other hand,
> suck. It's just a basic web interface for reading and posting. It's a
> weak area in the service, but the need has also not been that strong.
> Most just use one of the SSH servers to tunnel to a third party usenet
> provider.
Suck, no way, d00d, I killed an whole fukken newsgroup of pricks, thanks to
you.
NYUKLES EXPONENTIAL!!!
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| Thomas J. Boschloo 2005-05-20, 5:46 pm |
| -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Tom Giarmo wrote:
> On Sun, 15 May 2005 16:10:51 +0200, Thomas J. Boschloo wrote:
>
>
>
>
> WAHT THE FUKKEN IS ALL THIS SHIT? i appreciate the post but even to an
> Italian like me, this looks like Latin and not the pig variety.
Would you like to learn handroling with PGP then?? You *DO* know what
PGP is and how to use it, don't you!?
Thomas
- --
"I don't know, it just seems to be so incredibly beautiful. It's magic."
- - emmel, alt.games.creatures, may 2005
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| Thomas J. Boschloo 2005-05-20, 5:46 pm |
| -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Tom Giarmo wrote:
> On Mon, 16 May 2005 20:32:45 +0200, Thomas J. Boschloo wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Quit sukking up to Gielda. You don't know if he has Usenet?What the fukken
> have you been doing, accessing his web drunk?
I will suck up to anyone I please,
Thomas
- --
"I don't know, it just seems to be so incredibly beautiful. It's magic."
- - emmel, alt.games.creatures, may 2005
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| Tom Giarmo 2005-05-20, 5:46 pm |
| On Fri, 20 May 2005 16:28:36 +0200, Thomas J. Boschloo wrote:
>
> Would you like to learn handroling with PGP then?? You *DO* know what
> PGP is and how to use it, don't you!?
> Thomas
Look guys, maybe you have the time and pre-eduction to handjob AES for all
I know, but if you have to go to fukken school to learn to be anonymous,
then we are all up the shitter.
| |
| Tom Giarmo 2005-05-20, 5:46 pm |
| On Fri, 20 May 2005 16:32:00 +0200, Thomas J. Boschloo wrote:
>
> I will suck up to anyone I please,
> Thomas
You can suck his dick for all I fukken care, but don't lecture my XXX about
all things anonymous and then flip out when you get called to the task over
simple Cotse services that most tenth graders know about.
| |
| Anonymous 2005-05-20, 5:46 pm |
| On Fri, 20 May 2005, Tom Giarmo <TomGiarmoI@use.net> wrote:
>On Fri, 20 May 2005 16:28:36 +0200, Thomas J. Boschloo wrote:
>
>
>Look guys, maybe you have the time and pre-eduction to handjob AES for all
>I know, but if you have to go to fukken school to learn to be anonymous,
>then we are all up the shitter.
That's not what he said, and by being sarcastic and hyperbolic all you do
is destroy your own credibility and look like you're too stupid to even
learn the basics.
Handrolling messages with PGP is a pain in the XXX, but not hard once you
understand a little bit of what's going on.
Anonymity is not free. You have to work for it. If you are too lazy or
stupid to pick up the basics, go rejoin the mooing herd. If you're not too
lazy or stupid, drop your pissy little attitude and people here might help
you along. But nobody likes a whiner.
| |
| Tom Giarmo 2005-05-20, 5:46 pm |
| On 20 May 2005 17:56:15 -0000, Anonymous wrote:
>
> That's not what he said, and by being sarcastic and hyperbolic all you do
> is destroy your own credibility and look like you're too stupid to even
> learn the basics.
Not too stupid, allocation of time, you allocate yours, Nerd, I'll allocate
XXXXen mine.
> Handrolling messages with PGP is a pain in the XXX, but not hard once you
> understand a little bit of what's going on.
Sorry, not interested in pains in tha ases, got enough of those right here.
> Anonymity is not free.
Bullshit, *advanced* anonymity is not free, basic anonymity is
>You have to work for it. If you are too lazy or
> stupid to pick up the basics, go rejoin the mooing herd.
Hey, then I would get to stump break your sist.
> If you're not too
> lazy or stupid, drop your pissy little attitude and people here might help
> you along. But nobody likes a whiner.
XXXXen them, I got a life, go get one for you and your cows.
| |
| Anonymous 2005-05-20, 5:46 pm |
| On Fri, 20 May 2005, Tom Giarmo <TomGiarmoI@use.net> wrote:
>On 20 May 2005 17:56:15 -0000, Anonymous wrote:
>
>
>Not too stupid, allocation of time, you allocate yours, Nerd, I'll allocate
>XXXXen mine.
Yep, nice attitude. And that is why YOU work for people like ME,
Neanderthal. Oh, and Yes, you *ARE* too stupid, judging from your posts.
>
>
>Sorry, not interested in pains in tha ases, got enough of those right here.
>
>
>Bullshit, *advanced* anonymity is not free, basic anonymity is
Appently it's not. You'll have to learn something, however painful that is
for you.
>
>
>Hey, then I would get to stump break your sist.
Did you mean "cyst" or were you so unbelievably lazy you just didn't type
the whole word "sister"?
>
>
>XXXXen them, I got a life, go get one for you and your cows.
I don't have cows. I have businesses. And one of them involves paying
sub-human knuckle
draggers like YOU to haul heavy loads around a warehouse.
| |
| Thomas J. Boschloo 2005-05-21, 5:46 pm |
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Tom Giarmo wrote:
> On 20 May 2005 17:56:15 -0000, Anonymous wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Not too stupid, allocation of time, you allocate yours, Nerd, I'll allocate
> XXXXen mine.
How would you feel if a proxy that interfaces with your news reader like
a real time virusscanner would? What if such a program would intercept
all traffic from your news reader and send it through the remailer
(mixmaster) network transparently?
Thomas
- --
"I don't know, it just seems to be so incredibly beautiful. It's magic."
- - emmel, alt.games.creatures, may 2005
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| Thomas J. Boschloo 2005-05-21, 5:46 pm |
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Tom Giarmo wrote:
> On Fri, 20 May 2005 16:32:00 +0200, Thomas J. Boschloo wrote:
>
>
>
>
> You can suck his dick for all I fukken care, but don't lecture my XXX about
> all things anonymous and then flip out when you get called to the task over
> simple Cotse services that most tenth graders know about.
I am not lecturing you, but your posting style seems to partition you
beyond anything the remailer network could cure..
Thomas
- --
"I don't know, it just seems to be so incredibly beautiful. It's magic."
- - emmel, alt.games.creatures, may 2005
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| Tom Giarmo 2005-05-23, 5:49 pm |
|
On 20 May 2005 21:14:44 -0000, Anonymous wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Yep, nice attitude. And that is why YOU work for people like ME,
> Neanderthal. Oh, and Yes, you *ARE* too stupid, judging from your posts.
Speaking of stupid fukken things to say, I have been self-employed for over
30 years to ignorant shithead.
>
> Appently it's not. You'll have to learn something, however painful that is
> for you.
Appently, what the XXXXken is appently, sixth grade Freako?
>
> I don't have cows. I have businesses. And one of them involves paying
> sub-human knuckle
> draggers like YOU to haul heavy loads around a warehouse.
See above. Now go fukken your "employees".
Ever.
| |
| Tom Giarmo 2005-05-23, 5:49 pm |
|
On Sat, 21 May 2005 16:18:53 +0200, Thomas J. Boschloo wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> How would you feel if a proxy that interfaces with your news reader like
> a real time virusscanner would? What if such a program would intercept
> all traffic from your news reader and send it through the remailer
> (mixmaster) network transparently?
>
> Thomas
> - --
Fine if it works, most of the remailer shit I see doesn't, or it
triplicates posts or sends it to the wrong fukken places. Or it takes a
light year to get things posted or it doesn't get the fukken post done at
all.
| |
| Tom Giarmo 2005-05-23, 5:49 pm |
| On Sat, 21 May 2005 16:26:38 +0200, Thomas J. Boschloo wrote:
>
> I am not lecturing you, but your posting style seems to partition you
> beyond anything the remailer network could cure..
> Thomas
Yeah, will here's a clue my posting style is fukken made up.
| |
| anonymous@remailer.hastio.org 2005-05-23, 5:49 pm |
| In <1pdsn68ll3jet$.wc4197meli7g.dlg@40tude.net>, TomGiarmoI@use.net wrote:
>
>On Sat, 21 May 2005 16:18:53 +0200, Thomas J. Boschloo wrote:
>
>
>Fine if it works, most of the remailer shit I see doesn't, or it
>triplicates posts or sends it to the wrong fukken places. Or it takes a
>light year to get things posted or it doesn't get the fukken post done at
>all.
Sorry to hear you've had so much trouble. I have found JBN2 and
Quicksilver both to be actually very easy to use, and with better than 99%
reliability as long as I make certain to be using current stats and
keyrings.
Not only have I experienced high reliability, but it also doesn't take for
freakin ever for a post to show up on usenet. Again, all I'm doing is
being carefull to keep up to date stats and keyrings, and then select my
chains with just a touch of care.
(how long does this take to show up? sent 3:35pm Eastern time using chain
of four remailers and panta's hashcash mail2news)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services.
The original sender is unknown. Any address shown in the From header
is unverified.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services.
The original sender is unknown. Any address shown in the From header
is unverified. You need a valid hashcash token to post to groups other
than alt.test and alt.anonymous.messages. Visit www.panta-rhei.dyndns.org
for abuse and hashcash info.
| |
| Tom Giarmo 2005-05-25, 5:47 pm |
|
On 23 May 2005 20:39:33 -0000, anonymous@remailer.hastio.org wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Sorry to hear you've had so much trouble. I have found JBN2 and
> Quicksilver both to be actually very easy to use, and with better than 99%
> reliability as long as I make certain to be using current stats and
> keyrings.
Appreciate the update.
> Not only have I experienced high reliability, but it also doesn't take for
> freakin ever for a post to show up on usenet. Again, all I'm doing is
> being carefull to keep up to date stats and keyrings, and then select my
> chains with just a touch of care.
>
> (how long does this take to show up? sent 3:35pm Eastern time using chain
> of four remailers and panta's hashcash mail2news)
It's 28 May, you sent it in 24 May.
| |
| Thomas J. Boschloo 2005-05-28, 5:45 pm |
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Tom Giarmo wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sat, 21 May 2005 16:18:53 +0200, Thomas J. Boschloo wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Fine if it works, most of the remailer shit I see doesn't, or it
> triplicates posts or sends it to the wrong fukken places. Or it takes a
> light year to get things posted or it doesn't get the fukken post done at
> all.
Posts shouldn't get triplicated, but they might take a while to get
through the network :-( That is the price of anonimity for you..
Possible fixes might be the latent-time directive for type i and maxlat
for type ii traffic. But maybe you would be better of getting an NSP
that strips your info for you..
Thomas
- --
"I don't know, it just seems to be so incredibly beautiful. It's magic."
- - emmel, alt.games.creatures, may 2005
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| Thomas J. Boschloo 2005-05-28, 5:45 pm |
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Tom Giarmo wrote:
> On Sat, 21 May 2005 16:26:38 +0200, Thomas J. Boschloo wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Yeah, will here's a clue my posting style is fukken made up.
Cool.. Too bad you can't use it for /real/ anonimity anymore.. It *does*
partition you..
Thomas
- --
"I don't know, it just seems to be so incredibly beautiful. It's magic."
- - emmel, alt.games.creatures, may 2005
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| Tom Giarmo 2005-05-30, 5:46 pm |
| On Sat, 28 May 2005 18:05:42 +0200, Thomas J. Boschloo wrote:
>
> Posts shouldn't get triplicated, but they might take a while to get
> through the network :-( That is the price of anonimity for you..
>
> Possible fixes might be the latent-time directive for type i and maxlat
> for type ii traffic. But maybe you would be better of getting an NSP
> that strips your info for you..
>
> Thomas
Yeah, I agree, with the getting the NSP, the other blew right over my
fukken head.
| |
| Tom Giarmo 2005-05-30, 5:46 pm |
| On Sat, 28 May 2005 18:29:12 +0200, Thomas J. Boschloo wrote:
>
> Cool.. Too bad you can't use it for /real/ anonimity anymore.. It *does*
> partition you..
> Thomas
Fukken anonymity, anyway, I was doomed the day I got on Usenet and now the
fukken FBI can shot on my ISP and he will give my XXX up anyway.
| |
| Siegfried Kemper 2005-06-02, 5:46 pm |
| In article <428f45f1$0$778$3a628fcd@reader20.nntp.hccnet.nl>
"Thomas J. Boschloo" <nospam@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> Tom Giarmo wrote:
>
> How would you feel if a proxy that interfaces with your news reader like
> a real time virusscanner would? What if such a program would intercept
> all traffic from your news reader and send it through the remailer
> (mixmaster) network transparently?
I would love to have it. Please tell me where to get it.
| |
| Thomas J. Boschloo 2005-06-03, 5:47 pm |
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Siegfried Kemper wrote:
> In article <428f45f1$0$778$3a628fcd@reader20.nntp.hccnet.nl>
> "Thomas J. Boschloo" <nospam@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>
> I would love to have it. Please tell me where to get it.
I was just being hypothetical. I know there are such proxies for PGP 9
<www.pgp.com> and GnuPG <www.gnupg.org> (GPGRelay IIRC). It would
probably only be some time before someone writes such a local proxy for
mixmaster since both programs are Open Source and the code (-fragments)
thus already exists..
Sorry if I got your hopes up,
Thomas
- --
"You can't be safer, can't be more secure than with a breast in each
palm, that's the way I was born and that's the way I want to die" -
Sugarcubes, Mama, 1988
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| Thomas J. Boschloo 2005-06-03, 5:47 pm |
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Tom Giarmo wrote:
> On Sat, 28 May 2005 18:29:12 +0200, Thomas J. Boschloo wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Fukken anonymity, anyway, I was doomed the day I got on Usenet and now the
> fukken FBI can shot on my ISP and he will give my XXX up anyway.
We're both doomed :-( If only I could start anew!
Thomas
- --
"You can't be safer, can't be more secure than with a breast in each
palm, that's the way I was born and that's the way I want to die" -
Sugarcubes, Mama, 1988
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| Tom Giarmo 2005-06-04, 5:46 pm |
| On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 20:50:27 +0200, Thomas J. Boschloo wrote:
>
> I was just being hypothetical. I know there are such proxies for PGP 9
> <www.pgp.com> and GnuPG <www.gnupg.org> (GPGRelay IIRC). It would
> probably only be some time before someone writes such a local proxy for
> mixmaster since both programs are Open Source and the code (-fragments)
> thus already exists..
>
> Sorry if I got your hopes up,
> Thomas
Aw, now what's the definition of a male prickteaser?
NYUK!
| |
| Tom Giarmo 2005-06-04, 5:46 pm |
| On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 20:51:19 +0200, Thomas J. Boschloo wrote:
>
> We're both doomed :-( If only I could start anew!
>
> Thomas
Oh well.
Let's go get a drink at The Fukken Idiots Bar.
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| Thomas J. Boschloo 2005-06-05, 5:46 pm |
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Tom Giarmo wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 20:51:19 +0200, Thomas J. Boschloo wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Oh well.
>
> Let's go get a drink at The Fukken Idiots Bar.
First round on me.. <orders two beers>
Thomas
- --
"You can't be safer, can't be more secure than with a breast in each
palm, that's the way I was born and that's the way I want to die" -
Sugarcubes, Mama, 1988
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