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| Anonymous Remail Service tek1 2005-05-25, 2:45 am |
| Using Tor, Privoxy, and Agent with news.usenetzone.com
Can it be done? if so, can you help me please.
TIA
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| Thrasher Remailer 2005-05-26, 5:50 pm |
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> Using Tor, Privoxy, and Agent with news.usenetzone.com
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> Can it be done? if so, can you help me please.
Your in the wrong NG.
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| J.Alfred Prufrock 2005-05-26, 5:50 pm |
| In article <c6b766dee6576152dc1b143d06640f35@remail.in>
Anonymous Remail Service tek1 <mix-noreturn@remail.in> wrote:
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> Using Tor, Privoxy, and Agent with news.usenetzone.com
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> Can it be done? if so, can you help me please.
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> TIA
Yes, but ask in alt.privacy not alt.privacy.anon-server.
J. A. Prufrock
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| anonymous@remailer.hastio.org 2005-05-26, 5:50 pm |
| In article <T7MINQNX38498.9457060185@reece.net.au>
Thrasher Remailer <thrasher@reece.net.au> wrote:
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> Your in the wrong NG.
My, you're getting a little uppity now that you got your fukki wicken.
Why, in your exalted opinion, would that question be off-topic?
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| Christopher 2005-05-26, 8:45 pm |
| On 26 May 2005, J.Alfred Prufrock <Poet@your.svc> wrote:
>In article <c6b766dee6576152dc1b143d06640f35@remail.in>
>Anonymous Remail Service tek1 <mix-noreturn@remail.in> wrote:
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>Yes, but ask in alt.privacy not alt.privacy.anon-server.
>
>J. A. Prufrock
Sorry for the multiple posts. I had a loose connection at the TV/Internet
modem splitter. I kept getting the message back "could not connect", so,
like a dummy, I kept trying. Again, very sorry for the multiple posts.
Christopher
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| herehere 2005-05-29, 8:45 pm |
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> My, you're getting a little uppity now that you got your fukki wicken.
> Why, in your exalted opinion, would that question be off-topic?
I did not mean to seem "uppity"; I was trying to help you and I
was on my way to work. I am sorry if I came off that way, it
was not intentional.
I saw that you posted this exact same message two different
times in apas and you recieved no responses. I let you know you
were posting in the wrong NG; most likley no other regulars
would have repsonded to your posts.
> would that question be off-topic?
If your posting with Agent that means you are most likly posting
binaries or large files; correct?
Apas and the remailer network is not meant for binaries or large
files; it seemed to me you did not know this.
alt.privacy and the NG's for hacking Agent and it's headers is
were you want to look.
> you're getting a little uppity
And you seem a little "touchy"; now don't you??? :-)
> now that you got your fukki wicken.
I wrote the Wiki for others, not myself.
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| Thrasher Remailer 2005-05-29, 8:45 pm |
| In article <MRTG8BG738502.3677777778@reece.net.au>
herehere <thrasher@reece.net.au> wrote:
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> I did not mean to seem "uppity"; I was trying to help you and I
> was on my way to work. I am sorry if I came off that way, it
> was not intentional.
>
> I saw that you posted this exact same message two different
> times in apas and you recieved no responses. I let you know you
> were posting in the wrong NG; most likley no other regulars
> would have repsonded to your posts.
He(she) wasn't posting in the wrong group. It's a perfectly legitiment
question to ask in apa-s.
>
> If your posting with Agent that means you are most likly posting
> binaries or large files; correct?
You have to be joking, right? Agent is primarily an offline reader.
Sure, it can post binaries, but nowhere near as effectivly as the
binary specialists. Why on earth would anyone make thet assumption?
>
> Apas and the remailer network is not meant for binaries or large
> files; it seemed to me you did not know this.
The only person mentioning binaries and large files is you. Why don't
you go back to wacking your wiki.
> alt.privacy and the NG's for hacking Agent and it's headers is
> were you want to look.
What has hacking Agent's headers got to do with anything?
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> And you seem a little "touchy"; now don't you??? :-)
>
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> I wrote the Wiki for others, not myself.
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| Argyle 2005-05-29, 8:45 pm |
| On 30 May 2005 01:36:15 -0000, Thrasher Remailer <thrasher@reece.net.au>
wrote:
>In article <MRTG8BG738502.3677777778@reece.net.au>
>herehere <thrasher@reece.net.au> wrote:
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>He(she) wasn't posting in the wrong group. It's a perfectly legitiment
>question to ask in apa-s.
>
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>You have to be joking, right? Agent is primarily an offline reader.
>Sure, it can post binaries, but nowhere near as effectivly as the
>binary specialists. Why on earth would anyone make thet assumption?
>
>The only person mentioning binaries and large files is you. Why don't
>you go back to wacking your wiki.
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>
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>What has hacking Agent's headers got to do with anything?
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>
>
The guy did post multiple times but did explain and apologize. Doesn't
bother me, especially when he apologized.
>Sorry for the multiple posts. I had a loose connection at the TV/Internet
>modem splitter. I kept getting the message back "could not connect", so,
>like a dummy, I kept trying. Again, very sorry for the multiple posts.
>
>Christopher
Argyle
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| Thomas J. Boschloo 2005-06-03, 5:47 pm |
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herehere wrote:
<snip>
> If your posting with Agent that means you are most likly posting
> binaries or large files; correct?
>
> Apas and the remailer network is not meant for binaries or large
> files; it seemed to me you did not know this.
You *CAN* post binaries through the remailer network. Even to APA-S in
some cases (which would be off-charter but I have seen pictures posted
here through the remailer network).
The way to go with CPunk is to ensure that no remailer in your chain has
a smaller klen value than your message. With Mix it is even easier. Only
the last hop (where your message will be reassembled) needs to have a
large enough klen value.
In both cases your exit remailer must allow binaries.
E.g. from mix 3.0b2::
## Filter binaries and replace them with "[...]"
## Note: destroys even PGP messages sometimes
BINFILTER n
If you encode with PGP, these are seen as text and will always be allowed..
It is too bad that you can't tell servers that do from servers that
don't by getting a remailer-conf reply back from it. It is my guess that
most remailers filter on binaries for bandwidth purposes..
Thomas
- --
"You can't be safer, can't be more secure than with a breast in each
palm, that's the way I was born and that's the way I want to die" -
Sugarcubes, Mama, 1988
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| Userbeam Remailer 2005-06-03, 5:47 pm |
| On Fri, 03 Jun 2005, "Thomas J. Boschloo" <nospam@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
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>herehere wrote:
><snip>
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>You *CAN* post binaries through the remailer network.
Fine. You can also drive a nail with a wrench. It doesn't mean you should.
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| Thomas J. Boschloo 2005-06-03, 5:47 pm |
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Userbeam Remailer wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Jun 2005, "Thomas J. Boschloo" <nospam@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
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> Fine. You can also drive a nail with a wrench. It doesn't mean you should.
I think Beale Screamer posted a zip file with anti DRM sources (FreeMe)
to sci.crypt once using remailers..
<http://cryptome.org/FreeMe.zip>
Thomas
- --
"You can't be safer, can't be more secure than with a breast in each
palm, that's the way I was born and that's the way I want to die" -
Sugarcubes, Mama, 1988
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| Thrasher Remailer 2005-06-03, 5:47 pm |
| In article <42a0ac80$0$771$3a628fcd@reader10.nntp.hccnet.nl>
Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
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> herehere wrote:
> <snip>
>
> You *CAN* post binaries through the remailer network. Even to APA-S in
> some cases (which would be off-charter but I have seen pictures posted
> here through the remailer network).
>
> The way to go with CPunk is to ensure that no remailer in your chain has
> a smaller klen value than your message. With Mix it is even easier. Only
> the last hop (where your message will be reassembled) needs to have a
> large enough klen value.
>
> In both cases your exit remailer must allow binaries.
>
> E.g. from mix 3.0b2::
> ## Filter binaries and replace them with "[...]"
> ## Note: destroys even PGP messages sometimes
> BINFILTER n
>
> If you encode with PGP, these are seen as text and will always be allowed..
So that's what happened! I had an encrypted msg that was sent
to me via mixminion Single Use Reply Block and the encrypted msg
was truncated with "[...]" destroying the message. Can this
thing be adjusted to let encrypted mixminion traffic pass?
> It is too bad that you can't tell servers that do from servers that
> don't by getting a remailer-conf reply back from it. It is my guess that
> most remailers filter on binaries for bandwidth purposes..
shit, a remailer-conf *OUGHT* to show that data!
> Thomas
> - --
> "You can't be safer, can't be more secure than with a breast in each
> palm, that's the way I was born and that's the way I want to die" -
> Sugarcubes, Mama, 1988
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| Thomas J. Boschloo 2005-06-04, 2:45 am |
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Thrasher Remailer wrote:
> In article <42a0ac80$0$771$3a628fcd@reader10.nntp.hccnet.nl>
> Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
<snip>
>
>
> So that's what happened! I had an encrypted msg that was sent
> to me via mixminion Single Use Reply Block and the encrypted msg
> was truncated with "[...]" destroying the message. Can this
> thing be adjusted to let encrypted mixminion traffic pass?
Since the SURB is single use, you have lost the message AFAIK.
But you could try another remailer! They mostly won't object to PGP
Ascii Armor I think..
That said, Mixminion has its own traffic transport capabilities and
doesn't need SMTP and thus not Mixmaster I believe.. If you send e-mail
to e-mail using Mixminion there should be little problem as far as I can
see right now..
Thomas
- --
"You can't be safer, can't be more secure than with a breast in each
palm, that's the way I was born and that's the way I want to die" -
Sugarcubes, Mama, 1988
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| A.Melon 2005-06-04, 2:45 am |
| In article <42a10fad$0$147$3a628fcd@reader2.nntp.hccnet.nl>
Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>
SNIP
>
> Since the SURB is single use, you have lost the message AFAIK.
> But you could try another remailer! They mostly won't object to PGP
> Ascii Armor I think..
the problem came from message sent via mixminion on the
destination end.
SURB was pointed to a test email address. messages arrive at
test address and then I download 'em and run the message body
through mixminion to decode the SURB message.
The problem came when out of 15 tests, 2 messages had that nasty
little "[...]" and a 95% truncated msg. Doubtfull it had
anything to do with the mail I'm using as a test, because it has
allowed all sorts of odd things in for my various testings.
> That said, Mixminion has its own traffic transport capabilities and
> doesn't need SMTP and thus not Mixmaster I believe.. If you send e-mail
> to e-mail using Mixminion there should be little problem as far as I can
> see right now..
User a creates surb.. uses something like:
mixminion generate-surb -t user1@domain.com
to generate his surbs which he sends to me via a mixminion
message to my test address.
I then use
mixminion generate-surb -t user2@domain2.com
and send the resulting SURBs to user a.
user a then sends me a message...
mixminion send -R txtfilecontainingsurb -i message.txt
This worked great 13 out of 15 times. two of them got truncated.
I'm just trying to find out why and how to prevent or avoid it.
> Thomas
> - --
> "You can't be safer, can't be more secure than with a breast in each
> palm, that's the way I was born and that's the way I want to die" -
> Sugarcubes, Mama, 1988
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| Thomas J. Boschloo 2005-06-04, 5:46 pm |
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A.Melon wrote:
> In article <42a10fad$0$147$3a628fcd@reader2.nntp.hccnet.nl>
> Thomas J. Boschloo <nospam@hccnet.nl.invalid> wrote:
>
> SNIP
>
>
>
> the problem came from message sent via mixminion on the
> destination end.
>
> SURB was pointed to a test email address. messages arrive at
> test address and then I download 'em and run the message body
> through mixminion to decode the SURB message.
>
> The problem came when out of 15 tests, 2 messages had that nasty
> little "[...]" and a 95% truncated msg. Doubtfull it had
> anything to do with the mail I'm using as a test, because it has
> allowed all sorts of odd things in for my various testings.
>
>
>
>
> User a creates surb.. uses something like:
>
> mixminion generate-surb -t user1@domain.com
>
> to generate his surbs which he sends to me via a mixminion
> message to my test address.
>
> I then use
>
> mixminion generate-surb -t user2@domain2.com
>
> and send the resulting SURBs to user a.
>
> user a then sends me a message...
>
> mixminion send -R txtfilecontainingsurb -i message.txt
>
>
> This worked great 13 out of 15 times. two of them got truncated.
>
> I'm just trying to find out why and how to prevent or avoid it.
You seem to know more about SURBs that I do. I haven't used them yet..
Browsing through the mixminion source I found no evidence that mixminion
does this 'munging'. There was something about a mixmaster/mixminion
gateway in the sources though..
Sorry I cannot be of more help, have you tried the mixminion (or tor if
you are desperate) mailing list?
Thomas
- --
"You can't be safer, can't be more secure than with a breast in each
palm, that's the way I was born and that's the way I want to die" -
Sugarcubes, Mama, 1988
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