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| John Smith 2005-07-21, 2:46 am |
| what fool would trust the programmer of quicksilver, if you can't
check out the source and compile the code yourself, learn to use
remailers manually--don't be screwed, the programmer can know
everything you remail...
.... indeed, how do you know the fbi or some other gov't organization
isn't putting out quicksilver just to give themselves a "backdoor?"
John
"me qsuser" <qsuser@notmail.com> wrote in message
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> (QS is best, forget the rest)
> Download= http://www.quicksilvermail.net/
> Tutorial= http://www.websamba.com/neone
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| Thrasher Remailer 2005-07-21, 2:46 am |
| In <eFFDe.156$mQ5.2419806@news.sisna.com>, assemblywizard@gmail.com wrote:
>what fool would trust the programmer of quicksilver, if you can't
>check out the source and compile the code yourself, learn to use
>remailers manually--don't be screwed, the programmer can know
>everything you remail...
>
>.... indeed, how do you know the fbi or some other gov't organization
>isn't putting out quicksilver just to give themselves a "backdoor?"
I *DO* wish that QS source was available in a
"examine it and compile it" friendly format...
.. that could be compiled with a free compiler like gcc
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| Thrasher Admin 2005-07-21, 7:46 am |
| On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:38:29 -0700, "John Smith"
<assemblywizard@gmail.com> wrote:
>what fool would trust the programmer of quicksilver, if you can't
>check out the source and compile the code yourself, learn to use
>remailers manually--don't be screwed, the programmer can know
>everything you remail...
>
>... indeed, how do you know the fbi or some other gov't organization
>isn't putting out quicksilver just to give themselves a "backdoor?"
ftp://ftp.quicksilvermail.net/pub/quicksilver/source/
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| John Smith 2005-07-21, 5:48 pm |
| Yes, I know the source is available but, just how many here do you
think could even compile the source to object code?
And, unless they can read that source and understand sockets and
protocols, they are forced to place one hell of a lot of trust in
others to be honest--something I never found works out well...
John
"Thrasher Admin" <thrasher_admin@reece.net.au> wrote in message
news:hroud1ljerpmek5a22g1bnqiujimr8e4i4@
news.reece.net.au...
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:38:29 -0700, "John Smith"
> <assemblywizard@gmail.com> wrote:
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> ftp://ftp.quicksilvermail.net/pub/quicksilver/source/
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| Thomas J. Boschloo 2005-07-21, 5:48 pm |
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John Smith wrote:
> Yes, I know the source is available but, just how many here do you
> think could even compile the source to object code?
>
> And, unless they can read that source and understand sockets and
> protocols, they are forced to place one hell of a lot of trust in
> others to be honest--something I never found works out well...
>
> John
Well John, I would worry more about the components that QS uses from
other programmers. Richard seems like a straight, regular guy with a
passion for remailers (not always their users!). But I don't know about
the others. It would be relatively easy to add a backdoor to a module
used by QS. JBN2 even uses closed source objects for SMTP and stuff IIRC!
Thomas
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| Thrasher Remailer 2005-07-21, 5:48 pm |
| In <hroud1ljerpmek5a22g1bnqiujimr8e4i4@news.reece.net.au>,
thrasher_admin@reece.net.au wrote:
>On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:38:29 -0700, "John Smith"
><assemblywizard@gmail.com> wrote:
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>ftp://ftp.quicksilvermail.net/pub/quicksilver/source/
what good is it? I cannot spend money to buy the borland compiler to build
it. it needs to be buildable with gcc
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| Thomas J. Boschloo 2005-07-21, 8:45 pm |
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Thrasher Remailer wrote:
> In <hroud1ljerpmek5a22g1bnqiujimr8e4i4@news.reece.net.au>,
> thrasher_admin@reece.net.au wrote:
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> what good is it? I cannot spend money to buy the borland compiler to build
> it. it needs to be buildable with gcc
ftp://ftpd.borland.com/download/bcp...ndLinetools.exe
It's free.
Thomas
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| John Smith 2005-07-22, 2:53 am |
| If Borland's product is needed, Borland's "free commandline tools"
should compile it with no problem...
John
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> what good is it? I cannot spend money to buy the borland compiler
> to build
> it. it needs to be buildable with gcc
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| Thrasher Remailer 2005-07-22, 5:47 pm |
| On Fri, 22 Jul 2005, John Smith <assemblywizard@gmail.com> wrote:
>If Borland's product is needed, Borland's "free commandline tools"
>should compile it with no problem...
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>John
No it won't because it uses the VCL gui framework stuff that you
only get in the commercial C++ Builder package.
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| QuickSilver 2005-07-24, 8:45 pm |
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"Thomas J. Boschloo" <nospam@hccnet.nl> wrote:
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> John Smith wrote:
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> Well John, I would worry more about the components that QS uses from
> other programmers. Richard seems like a straight, regular guy with a
> passion for remailers (not always their users!). But I don't know about
> the others. It would be relatively easy to add a backdoor to a module
> used by QS. JBN2 even uses closed source objects for SMTP and stuff IIRC!
Hi Thomas,
Just thought I'd mention that the source for the Internet controls QS
uses is available from the author. It is distributed as source. I
give the address of the author in the source directory of my ftp
site. It's in THIRDPARTY.txt.
Richard
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R.Christman
quicksilver <at> quicksilvermail.net
http://www.quicksilvermail.net
How many people download QS? http://quicksilvermail.net/ftpusage.html
QS mailing list http://www.quicksilvermail.net/mailman/listinfo/qslist
Superb remailer statistical analysis http://www.noreply.org
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| nobody@firenze.linux.it 2005-07-25, 2:46 am |
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In <IOP0358138556.1407060185@reece.net.au> Thrasher Remailer <thrasher@reece.net.au> wrote:
>On Fri, 22 Jul 2005, John Smith <assemblywizard@gmail.com> wrote:
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>No it won't because it uses the VCL gui framework stuff that you
>only get in the commercial C++ Builder package.
In that case, How can low budget user (me) become able to compile QS from source
in order to test it?
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| Thomas J. Boschloo 2005-07-25, 7:50 am |
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QuickSilver wrote:
>
> Just thought I'd mention that the source for the Internet controls QS
> uses is available from the author. It is distributed as source. I
> give the address of the author in the source directory of my ftp
> site. It's in THIRDPARTY.txt.
That is excellent news for me! I have been using QS a couple of times
(to interface with Mixmaster), and it seems like a very nice program
indeed. Maybe you could get some flashy interface like Winamp, Windows
Media Player or MS Office 2003 has, but otherwise I wouldn't change a
thing ;-)
ftp://ftp.quicksilvermail.net/pub/q.../THIRDPARTY.txt
Do you use Zlib 1.2.3 or 1.1.4? <http://zlib.org>
Regards,
Thomas
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| Anonymous 2005-07-25, 5:47 pm |
| On Mon, 25 Jul 2005, nobody@firenze.linux.it <nobody@firenze.linux.it> wrote:
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>In that case, How can low budget user (me) become able to compile QS from source
>in order to test it?
I'm afraid that you can't. Compiling JBN also was a similar problem
because it used commercial libraries for things like SMTP.
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| A.Melon 2005-07-25, 5:47 pm |
| >> Just thought I'd mention that the source for the Internet controls QS
>
> That is excellent news for me!
Not really; you only get the source code if you pay up money.
> Maybe you could get some flashy interface like Winamp, Windows
> Media Player or MS Office 2003 has, but otherwise I wouldn't change a
> thing ;-)
Oh god, please don't copy Microsoft products. If I get some XXXXing
talking paperclip telling me how to write anonymous email I will have
to smash up my computer with an axe.
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| Thrasher Remailer 2005-07-25, 5:47 pm |
| In <MGXVPBDX38558.4854513889@anonymous>, BigappleRemailer@bigapple.yi.org wrote:
>On Mon, 25 Jul 2005, nobody@firenze.linux.it <nobody@firenze.linux.it> wrote:
>
>I'm afraid that you can't. Compiling JBN also was a similar problem
>because it used commercial libraries for things like SMTP.
>
True, but the jbn problem was solved because there was found cracks and keygens that made compiling it possible. I got my copy of VB6 from a usenet binary group, it even came packaged with a keygen. I got the catalyst socket tools the same way.
I have no doubt that the same approach can work for QS
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| Thrasher Remailer 2005-07-26, 7:47 am |
| In < 03c65892875e7b766d946c519053faea@melontr
affickers.com>, juicy@melontraffickers.com wrote:
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>Not really; you only get the source code if you pay up money.
>
>
>Oh god, please don't copy Microsoft products. If I get some XXXXing
>talking paperclip telling me how to write anonymous email I will have
>to smash up my computer with an axe.
ROTFLMFAO
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| Thrasher Remailer 2005-07-26, 7:47 am |
| In <MGXVPBDX38558.4854513889@anonymous>, BigappleRemailer@bigapple.yi.org
wrote:
>On Mon, 25 Jul 2005, nobody@firenze.linux.it <nobody@firenze.linux.it> wrote:
>
>I'm afraid that you can't. Compiling JBN also was a similar problem
>because it used commercial libraries for things like SMTP.
>
You'd be surprized what you can find with some dilligent searching and some
polite requests posted in places like alt.cracks.
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| Thomas J. Boschloo 2005-07-27, 7:47 am |
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A.Melon wrote:
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> Not really; you only get the source code if you pay up money.
That is awful news for me :-(
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> Oh god, please don't copy Microsoft products. If I get some XXXXing
> talking paperclip telling me how to write anonymous email I will have
> to smash up my computer with an axe.
Clippy is dead :-(
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/...4-11clippy.mspx
They have a cool talking cat now though!
Thomas
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| Thomas J. Boschloo 2005-07-27, 7:47 am |
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Thrasher Remailer wrote:
> In <MGXVPBDX38558.4854513889@anonymous>, BigappleRemailer@bigapple.yi.org wrote:
>
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> True, but the jbn problem was solved because there was found cracks and keygens that made compiling it possible. I got my copy of VB6 from a usenet binary group, it even came packaged with a keygen. I got the catalyst socket tools the same way.
>
> I have no doubt that the same approach can work for QS
So what you are doing is, you compile software from a trusted (signed)
source with software from an untrusted (illegal) source. And you do this
in order to avoid backdoors and sneaky things that are in the trusted
(signed) binaries only.
Now that will get you a lot of security!
I think Frog-Admin had Visual Basic or Studio for download on his
homepage in the past..
Thomas
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