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| ceasar axwound 2005-09-27, 2:47 am |
| how anonymous is my header? i'm not very knowledgable
about this facet of NG's, but would like to learn.
any info would be very helpful.....
TIA..really
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| emperor 2005-09-27, 7:48 am |
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In article <Xns96DE23DBDB37ceasartheclub@38.119.71.214>
ceasar axwound <eat@they> wrote:
>how anonymous is my header?
[snip]
The question should be: "How anonymous am I?". Newsfeeds knows who
you are, since it's _not_ an anonymity provider. Then there is that
"X-Proxy-User: $$ihq91twnpfu" in your header, which identifies your
account across all of Usenet, even if you change your "From:" line.
Are normal Usenet users able to identify you in person? Very
unlikely. That is, if you don't do stupid things like posting with
your real name somewhere (remember that "X-Proxy-User:"?).
If you want real anonymity, use remailers (or better yet, don't post
at all ;o).
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| Thomas J. Boschloo 2005-09-27, 7:48 am |
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emperor wrote:
> In article <Xns96DE23DBDB37ceasartheclub@38.119.71.214>
> ceasar axwound <eat@they> wrote:
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>
>
> [snip]
>
> The question should be: "How anonymous am I?". Newsfeeds knows who
> you are, since it's _not_ an anonymity provider. Then there is that
> "X-Proxy-User: $$ihq91twnpfu" in your header, which identifies your
> account across all of Usenet, even if you change your "From:" line.
>
> Are normal Usenet users able to identify you in person? Very
> unlikely. That is, if you don't do stupid things like posting with
> your real name somewhere (remember that "X-Proxy-User:"?).
>
> If you want real anonymity, use remailers (or better yet, don't post
> at all ;o).
The Message-ID field also looks very interesting. Not sure if XNews or
Newsfeeds does this. You could use 'X-No-Archive: Yes' to be
non-searchable from groups.google.com
Thomas
- --
Life is like a videogame with no chance to win - ATR
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| emperor 2005-09-27, 7:48 am |
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In article <43391ed2$0$11074$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>
"Thomas J. Boschloo" <nospam@hccnet.nl> wrote:
[snip]
>The Message-ID field also looks very interesting. Not sure if XNews or
>Newsfeeds does this.
That MID is Xnews generated, but "38.119.71.214" is owned by
Newsfeeds. Xnews uses the name or the IP# of the newsserver as part
of its MID.
>You could use 'X-No-Archive: Yes' to be non-searchable from
>groups.google.com
Not for the first week after posting the article in question. Google
Groups Beta keeps articles with XNA for 7 days, after which they are
removed. Then there are other search engines besides Google not
honoring XNA.
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| Anonymous 2005-09-27, 8:46 pm |
| In article <20050927123159.41EF3AAFE2@fleegle.bananasplit.info>
emperor <emperor@the.empire> wrote:
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> Not for the first week after posting the article in question.
That's not entirely true. For 7 days your article with XNA is displayed
in the thread and in that group, but it is *not* searchable.
After the 7 days, the article isn't available at all.
> Then there are other search engines besides Google not honoring XNA.
Can you provide some links?
-=-
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| BiKiKii Admin 2005-09-28, 7:46 am |
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On 28 Sep 2005, Anonymous wrote:
>In article <20050927123159.41EF3AAFE2@fleegle.bananasplit.info>
>emperor <emperor@the.empire> wrote:
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>That's not entirely true. For 7 days your article with XNA is displayed
>in the thread and in that group, but it is *not* searchable.
>
>After the 7 days, the article isn't available at all.
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>
>Can you provide some links?
>
Won't find this on Google:
<http://www.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups...03-06/0237.html>
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp...b2ae75337644111>
Second message on this page, not on Google:
<http://www.webservertalk.com/message943703.html>
<http://groups.google.com/group/alt....737a1edab67cdc0>
Ciao!
BiKiKii
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| emperor 2005-09-28, 7:46 am |
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In article <41DCYEIA38622.8892013889@anonymous>
Anonymous <BigappleRemailer@bigapple.yi.org> wrote:
>In article <20050927123159.41EF3AAFE2@fleegle.bananasplit.info>
>emperor <emperor@the.empire> wrote:
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>That's not entirely true. For 7 days your article with XNA is displayed
>in the thread and in that group, but it is *not* searchable.
Wrong. See:
<http://groups.google.com/groups?q=a...emperor+author:
%3Cemperor@the.empire%3E&start=0&scoring=d&num=100&hl=en&lr=&
as_drrb=q&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=28&as_maxm=9&
as_maxy=2005&safe=off&filter=0>
<http://tinyurl.com/9nlbe>
<http://groups.google.com/groups?as_...ups+Beta+keeps+
articles+with+XNA+for+7+days%22&num=100&scoring=d&hl=en&as_epq=&
as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=&lr=&as_drrb=q&
as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=28&as_maxm=9&
as_maxy=2005&safe=off>
<http://tinyurl.com/9r9na>
>After the 7 days, the article isn't available at all.
Correct.
>
>Can you provide some links?
To add to what BiKiKii Admin said:
<http://howardk.freenix.org/>
A simple yet very useful article lookup service. Just enter a
Message-ID and you get the article.
<http://netscan.research.microsoft.com/>
(Enhanced version for IE users)
<http://netscan.research.microsoft.com/Static/>
(Version for non-IE users)
No further comment needed, I guess.
Those are just a few examples. There are several web-boards
(bulletin boards) including (some of the) newsgroups as normal
forums for their users, saving the content in its local database.
Again, honoring XNA is not a requirement, it's just a user's request
(which can be ignored). If you don't want your posts being archived,
don't post to Usenet.
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| Anonymous 2005-09-28, 5:54 pm |
| In article <20050928115911.515A4AB270@fleegle.bananasplit.info>
emperor <emperor@the.empire> wrote:
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> Wrong. See:
In Google's help it states that the articles will not be searchable.
http://groups.google.com/support/bi....py?answer=7918
Obviously they aren't telling the truth.
> <http://netscan.research.microsoft.com/>
> (Enhanced version for IE users)
> <http://netscan.research.microsoft.com/Static/>
> (Version for non-IE users)
> No further comment needed, I guess.
It shows certain information about posts, but I can't get it to show
the body of the post, the actual content. It does however show the
body of the posts in microsoft.* groups.
Is this just a problem with my browser?
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| emperor 2005-09-29, 7:47 am |
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In article <DVE5MZMY38623.3764699074@anonymous.poster>
Anonymous <Use-Author-Supplied-Address@[127.1]> wrote:
[snip]
>In Google's help it states that the articles will not be searchable.
>
>http://groups.google.com/support/bi....py?answer=7918
>
>Obviously they aren't telling the truth.
I see. Perhaps that's not intentional, but just worded incorrectly.
If you add "afterwards" to "and will never be searchable", it gets
a whole new meaning. Or they altered something and forgot to update
that text.
[snip MSR Netscan]
>It shows certain information about posts, but I can't get it to show
>the body of the post, the actual content. It does however show the
>body of the posts in microsoft.* groups.
>
>Is this just a problem with my browser?
No, I believe it's still in development. When they finally release
the full feature set, the real fun begins. ;o)
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| info@neuroni.org 2005-09-29, 5:52 pm |
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In emperor <emperor@the.empire> wrote:
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>In article <DVE5MZMY38623.3764699074@anonymous.poster>
>Anonymous <Use-Author-Supplied-Address@[127.1]> wrote:
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>[snip]
>
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>I see. Perhaps that's not intentional, but just worded incorrectly.
>If you add "afterwards" to "and will never be searchable", it gets
>a whole new meaning. Or they altered something and forgot to update
>that text.
Even assuming truth in Google's statements about X-No-Archive meaning that
posts so marked will not be searchable, you can bet you're last dollar that
they'll not be deleting it from their database.
>[snip MSR Netscan]
>
>
>No, I believe it's still in development. When they finally release
>the full feature set, the real fun begins. ;o)
No doubt. This is why the better option is to just post anonymously and forget
concern over XNA
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