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How Much Longer Do Remailers Have?
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| Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer 2006-10-05, 1:13 pm |
| At least in the US?
Does anybody else have the feeling that the US congress and executive are
getting closer to snuffing out remailers in the US?
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| On 5 Oct 2006 14:32:56 +0200, Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote in
Message-Id: < 8e964168aca528107f3571b58a919229@remaile
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> At least in the US?
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> Does anybody else have the feeling that the US congress and executive are
> getting closer to snuffing out remailers in the US?
I haven't seen any evidence to support this, although that's not to say
it wouldn't happen. If it does, we can be sure it will be on the basis
of combating terrorism or child pornography. These are the political
"Open Sesamee" of the era.
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| Thomas J. Boschloo 2006-10-05, 1:13 pm |
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Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer schreef:
> At least in the US?
>
> Does anybody else have the feeling that the US congress and executive are
> getting closer to snuffing out remailers in the US?
Depends on if the intelligence agencies have their own use for them. If
they do remailers (and tor) will only get better.
That use could be tracking people by controlling most of the nodes. Or
it could be agents that can e.g. send e-mail to HQ using remailers and PGP.
It isn't as far fetched as you would think. The CIA funded Triangleboy
to let its agents browse the web unnoticed.
http://www.theregister.com/2001/03/...feats_brit_rip/
Even the CIA needs cover traffic in order to be truly anonymous.
hth,
Thomas
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"Give me what i need, or i take what i want"
Hanin Elias - Wanting a machine
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| Non scrivetemi 2006-10-05, 1:13 pm |
| Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote:
> At least in the US?
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> Does anybody else have the feeling that the US congress and executive are
> getting closer to snuffing out remailers in the US?
No.
What evidence are your feelings based on? If any country were going to
ban remailers it would be France, Germany or the whole EU. They've
already back doored, raided, and confiscated machines running truly
anonymous services.
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| Thomas J. Boschloo 2006-10-05, 7:13 pm |
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Non scrivetemi schreef:
> Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote:
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> No.
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> What evidence are your feelings based on? If any country were going to
> ban remailers it would be France, Germany or the whole EU. They've
> already back doored, raided, and confiscated machines running truly
> anonymous services.
But those are all lower level justice departments. Once we get a good
functioning intelligence agency they will put a stop to the policemen
and women that mess up their objectives for a safer world.
Biggest danger to anonimity servers in Europe is still the record
industry (copyright infringement). But since they make less money than
the game industry I figure their power will not last forever (i hope).
World of Warcraft and other big games, that is where the big money is
these days.
Thomas
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"Whoever has got the money, has got the position" - Dee, Mean Guns, on
leading the syndicate
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| Anonymous 2006-10-05, 7:13 pm |
| On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 19:07:24 +0200, Non scrivetemi wrote:
> Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote:
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> No.
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> What evidence are your feelings based on? If any country were going to
> ban remailers it would be France, Germany or the whole EU. They've
> already back doored, raided, and confiscated machines running truly
> anonymous services.
And Australia, where the excellent ?? remailer was shut down. How soon I
forget.
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| anon-bounces@deuxpi.ca 2006-10-06, 1:17 am |
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In <45255516$0$4000$e4fe514c@dreader13.news.xs4all.nl> "Thomas J. Boschloo" <nospam@hccnet.nl> wrote:
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>Non scrivetemi schreef:
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>But those are all lower level justice departments. Once we get a good
>functioning intelligence agency they will put a stop to the policemen
>and women that mess up their objectives for a safer world.
>
>Biggest danger to anonimity servers in Europe is still the record
>industry (copyright infringement). But since they make less money than
>the game industry I figure their power will not last forever (i hope).
>World of Warcraft and other big games, that is where the big money is
>these days.
for a good anonymous publishing / p2p filesharing program / anonymous message system
get Freenet, Fuqid, Frost and FIW
When you get Freenet, be sure to use the small link on the top of the download page
to get version 0.5 (build 5107). They make 0.7 the default now, but it's only early
alpha and not safe yet. 0.5 is out of beta a long time now and while not perfect, works pretty good. I use Frost for anon message boards every day, FIW to publish anon web pages called freesites and Fuqid for downloading files, lately movies and music C
D's have been very popular showings
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| >> Does anybody else have the feeling that the US congress and executive
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> I haven't seen any evidence to support this, although that's not to say
> it wouldn't happen. If it does, we can be sure it will be on the basis
> of combating terrorism or child pornography. These are the political
> "Open Sesamee" of the era.
I don't see it happening for the next ten years, you can't send binaries
with the remailers, so nobody can claim they are used for picture sending,
as for terrorists I don't think they even bother, at the end of the day
they
know that extracting their teeth with pliers will manage to get the
password
pretty quickly.
--
Email:sberafvp@zy1.arg
Decrypt with Caesar ROT13
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| Borked Pseudo Mailed 2006-10-08, 1:16 am |
| On Sat, 07 Oct 2006, Melic <sberafvp@zy1.arg> wrote:
>I don't see it happening for the next ten years, you can't send binaries
>with the remailers, so nobody can claim they are used for picture sending,
right, the perverts would never think of using PGP as ASCII Armored to send
their sick photos.
are you doing PR for pervos, XXXXwit?
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| Borked Pseudo Mailed 2006-10-08, 1:16 am |
| On Sat, 7 Oct 2006, Borked Pseudo Mailed <nobody@pseudo.borked.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 07 Oct 2006, Melic <sberafvp@zy1.arg> wrote:
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>right, the perverts would never think of using PGP as ASCII Armored to send
>their sick photos.
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>are you doing PR for pervos, XXXXwit?
You're telling them how to do it, XXXXwit2.
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| Anonymous 2006-10-08, 1:12 pm |
| In alt.privacy.anon-server, nobody@pseudo.borked.net wrote:
>On Sat, 7 Oct 2006, Borked Pseudo Mailed <nobody@pseudo.borked.net> wrote:
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>You're telling them how to do it, XXXXwit2.
They already know how. Check out alt.fan.yardbird
bigapple
borked
deuxpi
panta
twisty
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| George Orwell 2006-10-08, 1:12 pm |
| In article <F6LGSTXN38998.3641666667@twistycreek.com>
Anonymous <anon@comments.header> wrote:
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> In alt.privacy.anon-server, nobody@pseudo.borked.net wrote:
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> They already know how. Check out alt.fan.yardbird
Let me guess. You just "stumbled across" that group by
accident, right?
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| Anonymous 2006-10-08, 7:16 pm |
| On Sun, 8 Oct 2006, George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote:
>In article <F6LGSTXN38998.3641666667@twistycreek.com>
>Anonymous <anon@comments.header> wrote:
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>Let me guess. You just "stumbled across" that group by
>accident, right?
"Of course." - pervert
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| Mark Foley 2006-10-10, 1:16 am |
| In article <F6LGSTXN38998.3641666667@twistycreek.com>
Anonymous <anon@comments.header> wrote:
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> In alt.privacy.anon-server, nobody@pseudo.borked.net wrote:
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> They already know how. Check out alt.fan.yardbird
>
Thanks, I need something to do while I'm in scientology
rehab. I wish I had heard of this Yarbird fellow before
all of the recent hubbub.
Btw: Can you send a picture of yourself? You seem to be
a very studly young man!
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| Anonymous 2006-10-10, 1:16 am |
| In article <ef175eec9b20707145ba8b75b836338b@pseudo.borked.net>
Borked Pseudo Mailed <nobody@pseudo.borked.net> wrote:
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> On Sat, 07 Oct 2006, Melic <sberafvp@zy1.arg> wrote:
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> right, the perverts would never think of using PGP as ASCII Armored to send
> their sick photos.
>
> are you doing PR for pervos, XXXXwit?
I wonder if they know about uuencode?
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| Hartmut Folter 2006-10-17, 1:13 pm |
| In alt.privacy.anon-server, nobody@mixmaster.it wrote:
>In article <F6LGSTXN38998.3641666667@twistycreek.com>
>Anonymous <anon@comments.header> wrote:
>
>Let me guess. You just "stumbled across" that group by
>accident, right?
My favorite group. Thanks ReMops 
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