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Discreeting uploading content to usenet?
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| John Smith 2006-10-30, 1:13 pm |
| How do people/groups post large binaries to usenet without exposing
themselves to actions from RIAA, etc.?
I've found lots of info on how to post individual messages through
remailers, anonymizer, etc., but nothing on posting multi-part binaries - so
I'm wondering how they do it. Are they just posting and hoping it doesn't
get reported to their ISP?
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| Thomas J. Boschloo 2006-10-30, 7:15 pm |
| John Smith schreef:
> How do people/groups post large binaries to usenet without exposing
> themselves to actions from RIAA, etc.?
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> I've found lots of info on how to post individual messages through
> remailers, anonymizer, etc., but nothing on posting multi-part binaries - so
> I'm wondering how they do it. Are they just posting and hoping it doesn't
> get reported to their ISP?
Wardriving, botnets, that is what I would use if I were a criminal :-)
Cascaded if you can manage it.
Thomas
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Someone according to Willem F. de Jonge: "There are depths."
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| Macarro 2006-10-31, 7:12 am |
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> How do people/groups post large binaries to usenet without exposing
> themselves to actions from RIAA, etc.?
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> I've found lots of info on how to post individual messages through
> remailers, anonymizer, etc., but nothing on posting multi-part binaries
> - so I'm wondering how they do it.
I answered how to it around a week ago:
Money order news server provider combined with either:
2) Internet cafe
3) Open Access point (wifi)
4) Cellphone registered under fake name
for specifics about how to do it search my post
> Are they just posting and hoping it doesn't
> get reported to their ISP?
This is not an option!!
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Mapping the Internet 24/7: http://www.netdimes.org
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| Stray Cat 2006-10-31, 7:15 pm |
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John Smith wrote:
> How do people/groups post large binaries to usenet without exposing
> themselves to actions from RIAA, etc.?
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> I've found lots of info on how to post individual messages through
> remailers, anonymizer, etc., but nothing on posting multi-part binaries - so
> I'm wondering how they do it. Are they just posting and hoping it doesn't
> get reported to their ISP?
There isn't anything complicated about this. There is even software
that will do it for you. JBN will post an attached binary file to
usenet with little more effort than sending a text message. All you
have to do is select the file and hit the attach button. The software
does all the hard work for you.
However, posting large binary files is very hard on the remailer
network, and can cause major problems for the remailer and gateway
operators if illegal material is posted.
Sending a 1MB binary file via mixmaster remailers will require about
100 individual email messages to be sent thru the remailer network. If
even one of these is lost, then all the network load is wasted. There
is no way to know which of the 100 messages didn't get thru, and the 99
that did get to the last hop can not be used without the missing one.
All you can do is try again and cause even more load. Using multiple
chains will improve your chances, but really cranks up the load - to
the point of being really obnoxious - as if sending 100 messages in one
burst isn't.
Like I said, it's easy to do, but very hard on the network. This
magnitude of traffic will likely be noticed on your line too. Sure,
it's all encrypted, but still - if you are for example, trying to do
warez distribution to usenet via the remailer network, your ISP is
going to notice the huge volume of your email traffic. And the first
hop remailer(s) you use are going to notice this too - possibly to the
point of blacklisting your IP address.
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| Borked Pseudo Mailed 2006-11-01, 1:15 am |
| On Tue, 31 Oct 2006, Macarro <any@email.invalid> wrote:
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>I answered how to it around a week ago:
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>Money order news server provider combined with either:
>2) Internet cafe
>3) Open Access point (wifi)
>4) Cellphone registered under fake name
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>for specifics about how to do it search my post
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>This is not an option!!
>--
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>Mapping the Internet 24/7: http://www.netdimes.org
>.
You forgot to mention using Freenet 0.5
http://freenetproject.org/download-old.html
Ignore the stuff about Freenet 0.7. It is still in Alpha and is not safe
to use yet.
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| John Smith 2006-11-02, 1:13 am |
| I looked at freenet. It promotes anonymity, but I don't see how you can use
freenet to post to regular usenet newsgroups. Is there a way to do it?
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> You forgot to mention using Freenet 0.5
> http://freenetproject.org/download-old.html
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> Ignore the stuff about Freenet 0.7. It is still in Alpha and is not safe
> to use yet.
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