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Campaign against data storage in Germany
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| Borked Pseudo Mailed 2006-12-14, 1:15 pm |
| macarro wrote:
>The /Arbeitskreis Vorratsdatenspeicherung/ (German association against
>the connection data storage directive) is setting up a campaign
>against the connection data storage by calling for a web demonstration
>as well as contacting the mass media to report about this EU
>directive.
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>The English article can be found here:
>http://www.anti1984.com/en/articles/9.html
>The German article is located at:
>http://www.anti1984.com/de/artikel/14.html
Why are you against it? They are simply preparing for the future.
In contrast to the US the society in Germany is still relatively
balanced. The overall crime rate is low, the clear-up rate not only
for capital crime nearby 100% - as long as you disregard white-collar
crime of course. That results in a high quality of life without the
necessity of fences and guards everywhere.
But in order to make corporate Germany more efficient, based on
unavoidable wage cuts and the Hartz laws, the social structure has
begun to change. Those parts of the lower class without work or with
an income for a full-time job below the cost of living more and more
look for alternatives, which unfortunately aren't always legal. So if
you continue to follow the strategy of giving all the money to those
who have learned to deal with it, namely the mighty & rich, you have
to have sufficient instruments to keep the poor in check. Begin with
less apparent methods in the virtual world, and then install cameras
everywhere with number plate and face recognition systems, cell phone
tracking devices, DNA databases and what else to follow every step in
the real world. Ultimately it isn't even necessary to analyse the
immense pile of data those measures create. Their presence alone
conjures up enough fear to prevent the masses from taking indecent
action.
Isn't it a respectable goal to emulate big brother America and support
those branches of industry that are developing great tools for a more
secure future? Moreover a mighty government equipped with all those
gadgets is able to nip every potential dictatorship in the bud. So we
don't even have to fear any future consequences for ourselves when
making money by selling our superior surveillance technology to
present authoritarian regimes like China, of course after having
proven the efficiency of our products at home.
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| George Orwell 2006-12-14, 7:15 pm |
| On Thu, 14 Dec 2006, Borked Pseudo Mailed <nobody@pseudo.borked.net> wrote:
>macarro wrote:
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>Why are you against it? They are simply preparing for the future.
>
>In contrast to the US the society in Germany is still relatively
>balanced. The overall crime rate is low, the clear-up rate not only
>for capital crime nearby 100% - as long as you disregard white-collar
>crime of course. That results in a high quality of life without the
>necessity of fences and guards everywhere.
>
>But in order to make corporate Germany more efficient, based on
>unavoidable wage cuts and the Hartz laws, the social structure has
>begun to change. Those parts of the lower class without work or with
>an income for a full-time job below the cost of living more and more
>look for alternatives, which unfortunately aren't always legal. So if
>you continue to follow the strategy of giving all the money to those
>who have learned to deal with it, namely the mighty & rich, you have
>to have sufficient instruments to keep the poor in check. Begin with
>less apparent methods in the virtual world, and then install cameras
>everywhere with number plate and face recognition systems, cell phone
>tracking devices, DNA databases and what else to follow every step in
>the real world. Ultimately it isn't even necessary to analyse the
>immense pile of data those measures create. Their presence alone
>conjures up enough fear to prevent the masses from taking indecent
>action.
>
>Isn't it a respectable goal to emulate big brother America and support
>those branches of industry that are developing great tools for a more
>secure future?
"big brother America"?!? You're kidding, right? America has NOTHING on Big
Brother England. They have more databases, CCTV cameras everywhere, RIP
laws, etc.
Orwell was right when he based "1984" in England. England has become a
"surveillance society" unlike anything the world has yet seen.
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| Borked Pseudo Mailed 2006-12-15, 7:14 am |
| George Orwell wrote - naming himself 'Orwell':
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>"big brother America"?!? You're kidding, right? America has NOTHING on Big
>Brother England. They have more databases, CCTV cameras everywhere, RIP
>laws, etc.
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>Orwell was right when he based "1984" in England. England has become a
>"surveillance society" unlike anything the world has yet seen.
That's correct, the U.K. currently ranks in first place. As always,
the uncritical followers tend to be more radical than their master
('big brother' at whom they look up), who BTW already seems to change
his mind.
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| Thomas J. Boschloo 2006-12-15, 1:13 pm |
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Borked Pseudo Mailed wrote:
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> Ultimately it isn't even necessary to analyse the
> immense pile of data those measures create. Their presence alone
> conjures up enough fear to prevent the masses from taking indecent
> action.
Plus if this data is digital, you can make things up and remove unwanted
adversaries without breaking a sweat. Why even call it a paper trail
anymore when everything is turning digital? You think the police is
going to print out child pornography when they tap somebody they suspect
of being a pedophile?
All records today are digital. And digital records can be tempered with.
Not even crypto will help you here as the ones one should be really
afraid of in a Orwellian society have /all/ the keys. Yet this is what
all modern nations aim for. A safer and more efficient future.
Remember _NSAKEY?
Hi,
Thomas
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It is ironic, that ultimately, it is the politicians that push for the
use for lie detectors
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