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Problem with Gateways? Something Else?
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| Patti Lorel 2006-03-14, 5:47 pm |
| Very few posts in apas lately, and test posts are taking a long time
to get to the test newsgroup or are not making it at all.
Is there a problem with gateways? Is the CIA testing a partial shutdown
of anonymous remailers as aiding terrorists? Something else?
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| George Orwell 2006-03-14, 5:47 pm |
| On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, Patti Lorel <Lorel@ginge.sumner.fre> wrote:
>Very few posts in apas lately, and test posts are taking a long time
>to get to the test newsgroup or are not making it at all.
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>Is there a problem with gateways? Is the CIA testing a partial shutdown
>of anonymous remailers as aiding terrorists? Something else?
Shut the XXXX up, eelbash.
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From: Patti Lorel <Lorel@ginge.sumner.fre>
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| anonymous@remailer.hastio.org 2006-03-14, 5:47 pm |
| In article <QYKdnSsW47H-aIvZnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@teksavvy.com>
admin <admin@eelbash.org> wrote:
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> Very few posts in apas lately
There's nothing much to talk about. The old threads have died off, and
no new subjects have emerged to discuss.
> Is there a problem with gateways? Is the CIA testing a partial shutdown
> of anonymous remailers as aiding terrorists? Something else?
There's nothing wrong with the remailers or gateways.
You seem to be living in a paranoid delusion. If the CIA have the
capability to control remailer traffic to the extent that they can shut
it down, why would they shut down a network that would be under their
control? Far better to watch it instead.
There is no evidence that terrorists have ever attempted to use the
remailer network. Computers found in the investigation of September
11th found that they communicated through unencrypted regular Hotmail
accounts.
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| Alex de Joode 2006-03-15, 5:47 pm |
| anonymous@remailer.hastio.org wrote:
[..]
: There is no evidence that terrorists have ever attempted to use the
: remailer network. Computers found in the investigation of September
: 11th found that they communicated through unencrypted regular Hotmail
: accounts.
I know for a fact that remailers have been used to claim certain
terrorist acts.
Cheers,
Alex
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| Nomen Nescio 2006-03-15, 5:47 pm |
| adejoode+usenet@sabotage.org (Alex de Joode) wrote:
> I know for a fact that remailers have been used to claim certain
> terrorist acts.
"Claim" != "claim honestly"
Investigations of terrorism, serial killers, etc., are often hampered
by false claims of responsibility from cranks.
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| Alex de Joode 2006-03-15, 5:47 pm |
| Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
: adejoode+usenet@sabotage.org (Alex de Joode) wrote:
: > I know for a fact that remailers have been used to claim certain
: > terrorist acts.
: "Claim" != "claim honestly"
: Investigations of terrorism, serial killers, etc., are often hampered
: by false claims of responsibility from cranks.
Well if you claim a few minutes *before* the actual 'event' I beg
to differ ...
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| Thrasher Remailer 2006-03-15, 5:47 pm |
| In <dv9b47$7si$1@heroin.sabotage.org>, adejoode+usenet@sabotage.org wrote:
>anonymous@remailer.hastio.org wrote:
>[..]
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>: There is no evidence that terrorists have ever attempted to use the
>: remailer network. Computers found in the investigation of September
>: 11th found that they communicated through unencrypted regular Hotmail
>: accounts.
>
>I know for a fact that remailers have been used to claim certain
>terrorist acts.
>
>Cheers,
>Alex
which terrorist acts?
evidence? documentation?
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| Nomen Nescio 2006-03-15, 8:45 pm |
| adejoode+usenet@sabotage.org (Alex de Joode) wrote:
> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
> : adejoode+usenet@sabotage.org (Alex de Joode) wrote:
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> : > I know for a fact that remailers have been used to claim certain
> : > terrorist acts.
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> : "Claim" != "claim honestly"
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> : Investigations of terrorism, serial killers, etc., are often hampered
> : by false claims of responsibility from cranks.
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> Well if you claim a few minutes *before* the actual 'event' I beg
> to differ ...
Good point! Could you give some references for this event?
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| Borked Pseudo Mailed 2006-03-16, 7:46 am |
| Alex de Joode wrote:
> anonymous@remailer.hastio.org wrote:
> [..]
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> : There is no evidence that terrorists have ever attempted to use the
> : remailer network. Computers found in the investigation of September 11th
> : found that they communicated through unencrypted regular Hotmail
> : accounts.
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> I know for a fact that remailers have been used to claim certain terrorist
> acts.
Without some sort of proof that's a bit like saying "I know for a fact
Alex de Joode is a space alien who genetically engineers hamsters for use
in his diabolical plot to conquer Earth." ;)
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> Alex de Joode wrote:
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> Without some sort of proof that's a bit like saying "I know for a fact
> Alex de Joode is a space alien who genetically engineers hamsters for
> use in his diabolical plot to conquer Earth." ;)
Cool! Way to go!
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| George Orwell 2006-03-16, 7:46 am |
| Ed wrote:
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Just FYI, well... everyone's information I suppose... your version of
GunPG has been found to have a pretty serious vulnerability that allows
someone to make it appear as though "altered" text has a valid signature.
More specifically it might allow someone append or prepend text to an
in line signed message or an encrypted and signed message.
There's a v1.4.2.2 upgrade available at gnupg.org and most mirrors by now.
Here's the announcement:
http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gn...6q1/000216.html
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In < bf6474b5a9e2df22c70f9a7e0b9ac6cf@mixmast
er.it> George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote:
>On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, Patti Lorel <Lorel@ginge.sumner.fre> wrote:
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>Shut the XXXX up, eelbash.
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What he said.
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| [Anonymous] Anon User 2006-03-19, 11:46 am |
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In <a69a6677c5ff9c9b0d4745bd310da1ac@pseudo.borked.net> Borked Pseudo Mailed <nobody@pseudo.borked.net> wrote:
>Alex de Joode wrote:
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>Without some sort of proof that's a bit like saying "I know for a fact
>Alex de Joode is a space alien who genetically engineers hamsters for use
>in his diabolical plot to conquer Earth." ;)
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This is the first I've heard of that. I had no idea.
I should have guessed, though. "de Joode" sounds kind of alien.
Anon User
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| George Orwell 2006-03-19, 11:46 am |
| [Anonymous] Anon User wrote:
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> In <a69a6677c5ff9c9b0d4745bd310da1ac@pseudo.borked.net> Borked Pseudo
> Mailed <nobody@pseudo.borked.net> wrote:
> This is the first I've heard of that. I had no idea.
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> I should have guessed, though. "de Joode" sounds kind of alien.
No, that's his hamster name. His space alien name is more like
<click>whirrrr drak<tik>. Loosely translated that's "Master of all
hamsters and a snappy dresser".
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| Homeland Admin 2006-03-21, 2:54 am |
| Patti Lorel <Lorel@ginge.sumner.fre> wrote:
>Very few posts in apas lately, and test posts are taking a long time
>to get to the test newsgroup or are not making it at all.
>
>Is there a problem with gateways? Is the CIA testing a partial shutdown
>of anonymous remailers as aiding terrorists? Something else?
Oh, it happens every year around this time. As soon as the CIA pays
the remailer operators their early Easter bonus they shut up shop
and head for the ski fields. Just be patient, they'll be back in a
few weeks once they've blown all their blood money.
PS How come your article's Subject header began with a lower-case 's'?
Admin
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