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| Thrasher Remailer 2006-03-25, 9:54 am |
| Are there problems with any of the nym servers? I have tried to create nym
accounts on at least two nym servers in the past few weeks and neither has
responded. Where can I find reliable nym server stats?
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| BiKiKii Admin 2006-03-25, 9:54 am |
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>Where can I find reliable nym server stats?
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| Thrasher Remailer 2006-03-25, 9:54 am |
| On 24 Mar 2006 21:55:24 Thrasher Remailer <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:
> Are there problems with any of the nym servers? I have tried to create nym
> accounts on at least two nym servers in the past few weeks and neither has
> responded. Where can I find reliable nym server stats?
>
Stats tend to show responses to pings, rather than processing of config requests, so their reliability is of limited use.
Hod and panta config requests both worked for me recently. Some posts here have reported problems with hod, but never specific details. AFAIK Komite doesn't support idea/rsa keys; nan only works with pgp 2.6.x. Broken chains? If you post more info maybe p
eople here can help.
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| Borked Pseudo Mailed 2006-03-25, 9:54 am |
| On 25 Mar 2006, Thrasher Remailer <thrasher@reece.net.au> wrote:
>On 24 Mar 2006 21:55:24 Thrasher Remailer
><Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:
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>Stats tend to show responses to pings, rather than processing of config
>requests, so their reliability is of limited use.
>
>Hod and panta config requests both worked for me recently. Some posts here
>have reported problems with hod, but never specific details.
Excuse me, but bullshit. I have provided all kinds of details about my
failed attempts to make Hod work for me. I have been using the network and
nyms since 1999, and I do know the basics of what I am doing. I have other
fully functional nyms on other servers.
I have had the same nyms on Hod for somewhere between 6 months and a year,
and they worked beautifully. Suddenly around the first of the year, they
stopped working. No passthrough of messages, and no responses to either
config messages, or even a delete message on one of them.
I don't know how much more specific I can be. Most of the responses I got
were short on both details and ideas. I don't expect a specific answer,
but I really would like to hear something a little more intelligent than
"Did you remember to sign your message?" and other stupid responses
implying I and dumb as a turnip.
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| George Orwell 2006-03-25, 9:54 am |
| On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:05:00 Borked Pseudo Mailed <nobody@pseudo.borked.net>
wrote:
> On 25 Mar 2006, Thrasher Remailer <thrasher@reece.net.au> wrote:
>
> Excuse me, but bullshit. I have provided all kinds of details about my failed
> attempts to make Hod work for me. I have been using the network and nyms
> since 1999, and I do know the basics of what I am doing. I have other fully
> functional nyms on other servers.
>
> I have had the same nyms on Hod for somewhere between 6 months and a year,
> and they worked beautifully. Suddenly around the first of the year, they
> stopped working. No passthrough of messages, and no responses to either
> config messages, or even a delete message on one of them.
>
> I don't know how much more specific I can be. Most of the responses I got
> were short on both details and ideas. I don't expect a specific answer, but
> I really would like to hear something a little more intelligent than "Did you
> remember to sign your message?" and other stupid responses implying I and
> dumb as a turnip.
>
Oh calm down before you blow a gasket.
There have been several anonymous posts reporting problems, but obviously we
don't know how many people that represents. I haven't seen any specific details
of the problem from any of them. And no, saying 'my nym no longer responds to
config requests or sending messages' isn't specific enough for anyone to offer
anything other than 'stupid responses.' That is not 'all kinds of details.'
My hod nyms work fine: I've set up a new nym in the last few weeks, old nyms
are passing messages, and config changes on the new and the old nyms are
processed correctly. So what is the problem? A similar thing happened last
year, that only affected some people, but we never really got to the bottom of
it: the nyms started working again as mysteriously as they stopped, presumably
because the remop who had previously not responded to requests for help woke up
and did something. Is this year's problem the same or different?
I guess part of the problem is not 'outing' the nym by giving details that
might help work out what is specific to it that means it won't work, compared
to those that do. However, do you want to work at trying to solve the problem,
or just wait for the remop again? If so, you have to follow a series of steps
to isolate the problem.
1. Have you tried setting up a new nym? If it didn't work, whereas others can
get new nyms to work, then the problem is your setup. So as not to out
established nyms, why not create a new low-security nym you can discuss here,
to test your setup, and discard when the problem is identified?
2. For what it's worth, my low-security nyms were set up using PGP 6.5.8 or
GnuPG: some return to an email, some to a.a.m. using esub, some to both. For the
conventional encryption steps I used 3DES or CAST rather than IDEA. Some were
set up with jbn, the GnuPG one was hand-rolled.
3. A question I can't answer: is there anything in how PGP keys are created,
the algorithm/cipher preferences for example, that might be causing this
selective problem? Would changing your PGP algorithm preferences make any
difference to your success in setting up a new nym?
Anyway, without anything 'specific' to go on, that's the best I can do for now; over to you.
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| Anonymous 2006-03-25, 9:54 am |
| Borked Pseudo Mailed wrote:
> Excuse me, but bullshit. I have provided all kinds of details about my
> failed attempts to make Hod work for me. I have been using the network and
> nyms since 1999, and I do know the basics of what I am doing. I have other
> fully functional nyms on other servers.
>
> I have had the same nyms on Hod for somewhere between 6 months and a year,
> and they worked beautifully. Suddenly around the first of the year, they
> stopped working. No passthrough of messages, and no responses to either
> config messages, or even a delete message on one of them.
>
> I don't know how much more specific I can be. Most of the responses I got
> were short on both details and ideas. I don't expect a specific answer,
> but I really would like to hear something a little more intelligent than
> "Did you remember to sign your message?" and other stupid responses
> implying I and dumb as a turnip.
Same here. My Hod nyms haven't worked for months. I don't get
messages in or out. Just sent a couple config messages yesterday
and got no response. I think Eric pulled the plug and moved on.
-=-
This message was sent via two or more anonymous remailing services.
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| anonynoon 2006-03-31, 12:11 am |
| Anonymous <BigappleRemailer@bigapple.yi.org> wrote in
news:JWOA92U838801.4053472222@anonymous:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Borked Pseudo Mailed wrote:
>
> Same here. My Hod nyms haven't worked for months. I don't get
> messages in or out. Just sent a couple config messages yesterday
> and got no response. I think Eric pulled the plug and moved on.
>
>
>
>
> -=-
> This message was sent via two or more anonymous remailing services.
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I also have not been able to re-set my nym at Hod using JBN for some time
(12month) had some problems with Komite but clearing the alt pgp time
stamp(window/books/config sorted this ok, hoped it would with hod but no
luck, do you all use JBN?
anonynoon
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| Anonymous 2006-03-31, 12:11 am |
| anonynoon wrote:
> I also have not been able to re-set my nym at Hod using JBN for some time
> (12month) had some problems with Komite but clearing the alt pgp time
> stamp(window/books/config sorted this ok, hoped it would with hod but no
> luck, do you all use JBN?
>
> anonynoon
Yes, I'm using JBN.
Like I said, Hod went down for me a few months ago.
Check the stats page for aarg <http://www.aarg.net/remailer/rlist2.txt>
It is dated Jan. 26.
None of the other stats servers show aarg or daat. I think Eric pulled
the plug.
-=-
This message was sent via two or more anonymous remailing services.
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| Borked Pseudo Mailed 2006-03-31, 12:11 am |
| George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote in
news:d1b1e7123afff368c7eff955d33cce3f@mi
xmaster.it:
> For the conventional
> encryption steps I used 3DES or CAST rather than IDEA. Some
> were set up with jbn, the GnuPG one was hand-rolled.
I wonder if that's why those of thus who are experiencing
problems are doing so. My hod nym, rarely used, was working fine
and then, no acks. But when I sent my last message through it,
the recipients told me that they got it. So the problem may
be simply that my reply-blocks don't work anymore.
That leaves me with either of three (?) possibilities:
a) IDEA is no longer supported by hod.
b) Remix or repgp isn't always supported because Hod's keys
are stale. You have to sent the cypherpunk message naked from
Hod without encapsulating it with the mixmaster or repgp
protocol. That's unfortunate.
c) Does hod still support classic RSA PGP keys like I'm using,
of do you now have to use DH/DSS? I would think yes, as Bikikii
reports it does, but if the cryptrecv failed using PGP RSA keys
then I'd not get any replies, either. (Though if the outgoing
messages got sent, then you'd think that it had to check the
sig on that RSA key OK on the incoming mail).
Can anyone disqualify any of these possibilities from their
experience?
******
P. S.
I sent this note once, it never arrived. I've since tried
sending a config message that changed the nym thusly:
1) using just the 'anon-to' directive (no remix or repgp)
to the first hop from the nymserver.
2) using CAST as the encryption algorithm at the first hop
rather than IDEA.
No reply ever came back via my reply blocks, which should
work fine.
It seems the last thing to try is to use a DH/DSS key.
Anyone else's experience?
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| Non scrivetemi 2006-03-31, 12:11 am |
| On Tue, 28 Mar 2006, Borked Pseudo Mailed <nobody@pseudo.borked.net> wrote:
>George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote in
> news:d1b1e7123afff368c7eff955d33cce3f@mi
xmaster.it:
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<Snip testing info>
>No reply ever came back via my reply blocks, which should
>work fine.
>
>It seems the last thing to try is to use a DH/DSS key.
>
>Anyone else's experience?
The real question is why won't Eric at least give us a hint about what's
going on? Don't *ANY* of the other remops know how to contact him if he
doesn't read APAS?
This problem has been going on for months. It would be nice to know one way
or the other.
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| Ferret 2006-03-31, 12:11 am |
| On 28 Mar 2006 17:38:31 Anonymous <BigappleRemailer@bigapple.yi.org> wrote:
> anonynoon wrote:
>
> Yes, I'm using JBN.
>
> Like I said, Hod went down for me a few months ago.
>
> Check the stats page for aarg <http://www.aarg.net/remailer/rlist2.txt>
> It is dated Jan. 26.
>
> None of the other stats servers show aarg or daat. I think Eric pulled
> the plug.
Not that simple I'm afraid.
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| Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer 2006-03-31, 12:11 am |
| On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:10:07 (MST)
Borked Pseudo Mailed <nobody@pseudo.borked.net> wrote:
> George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote in
> news:d1b1e7123afff368c7eff955d33cce3f@mi
xmaster.it:
>
>
> I wonder if that's why those of thus who are experiencing
> problems are doing so. My hod nym, rarely used, was working fine
> and then, no acks. But when I sent my last message through it,
> the recipients told me that they got it. So the problem may
> be simply that my reply-blocks don't work anymore.
>
> That leaves me with either of three (?) possibilities:
>
> a) IDEA is no longer supported by hod.
>
> b) Remix or repgp isn't always supported because Hod's keys
> are stale. You have to sent the cypherpunk message naked from
> Hod without encapsulating it with the mixmaster or repgp
> protocol. That's unfortunate.
>
> c) Does hod still support classic RSA PGP keys like I'm using,
> of do you now have to use DH/DSS? I would think yes, as Bikikii
> reports it does, but if the cryptrecv failed using PGP RSA keys
> then I'd not get any replies, either. (Though if the outgoing
> messages got sent, then you'd think that it had to check the
> sig on that RSA key OK on the incoming mail).
>
> Can anyone disqualify any of these possibilities from their
> experience?
RSA keys are fine: the nyms I set up, and the old ones all had RSA keys.
The most puzzling thing is why the problem is so selective. But maybe it will
be possible to identify the common element if we keep plugging away. I've taken
it as read that Erik isn't going to turn up and help. Is there any other remop
out there familiar with the inner workings of nymservers who has experienced
their system having produced similar inconsistencies?
>
> ******
>
> P. S.
>
> I sent this note once, it never arrived. I've since tried sending a config
> message that changed the nym thusly:
>
> 1) using just the 'anon-to' directive (no remix or repgp) to the first hop
> from the nymserver.
>
> 2) using CAST as the encryption algorithm at the first hop rather than IDEA.
>
> No reply ever came back via my reply blocks, which should work fine.
>
> It seems the last thing to try is to use a DH/DSS key.
>
> Anyone else's experience?
>
Have you been able to set up a new test nym? Did it work using the same reply
blocks as for your old nym? Does it work for a simple reply block, like one hop
to a remailer that posts it to a.a.m. with esub? (esub uses IDEA doesn't it? so as far as I can see, IDEA is not likely to be the problem??)
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| Anonymous 2006-03-31, 12:11 am |
| Borked Pseudo Mailed wrote:
> I wonder if that's why those of thus who are experiencing
> problems are doing so. My hod nym, rarely used, was working fine
> and then, no acks. But when I sent my last message through it,
> the recipients told me that they got it. So the problem may
> be simply that my reply-blocks don't work anymore.
>
> That leaves me with either of three (?) possibilities:
>
> a) IDEA is no longer supported by hod.
>
> b) Remix or repgp isn't always supported because Hod's keys
> are stale. You have to sent the cypherpunk message naked from
> Hod without encapsulating it with the mixmaster or repgp
> protocol. That's unfortunate.
>
> c) Does hod still support classic RSA PGP keys like I'm using,
> of do you now have to use DH/DSS? I would think yes, as Bikikii
> reports it does, but if the cryptrecv failed using PGP RSA keys
> then I'd not get any replies, either. (Though if the outgoing
> messages got sent, then you'd think that it had to check the
> sig on that RSA key OK on the incoming mail).
>
> Can anyone disqualify any of these possibilities from their
> experience?
>
> ******
>
> P. S.
>
> I sent this note once, it never arrived. I've since tried
> sending a config message that changed the nym thusly:
>
> 1) using just the 'anon-to' directive (no remix or repgp)
> to the first hop from the nymserver.
>
> 2) using CAST as the encryption algorithm at the first hop
> rather than IDEA.
>
> No reply ever came back via my reply blocks, which should
> work fine.
>
> It seems the last thing to try is to use a DH/DSS key.
>
> Anyone else's experience?
I've got more than one Hod nym. The reply blocks are set up very simply -
The nymserver posts directly to alt.anonymous.messages through the dizm
and lcs mail2news servers.
All of these nyms can send mail just fine. But nothing shows up when I
send mail to them. Because no remailers are involved in the reply blocks,
I think the problem must be at Hod.
-=-
This message was sent via two or more anonymous remailing services.
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| Anonymous 2006-03-31, 12:11 am |
| In article <IWENMQVO38805.0099189815@anonymous>
Anonymous <BigappleRemailer@bigapple.yi.org> wrote:
>
> I've got more than one Hod nym. The reply blocks are set up very simply -
> The nymserver posts directly to alt.anonymous.messages through the dizm
> and lcs mail2news servers.
>
> All of these nyms can send mail just fine. But nothing shows up when I
> send mail to them. Because no remailers are involved in the reply blocks,
> I think the problem must be at Hod.
Like many remops, Erik doesn't read this group and so won't hear your
complaints. Email him direct, he usually responds pretty promptly. His
email address is erik@aarg.net
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