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Dave Dawkins

2006-08-14, 7:13 pm

I have been running tests of the dizum and other gateways and notice that
dizum is not forwarding messages that come from austria, cripto, or
eelbash.

I have sent half a dozen messages over the last few days through each
remailer to mail2news@dizum.com, but none of them has made it to the test
newsgroup. When they are sent through other gateways there is no problem.

If the dizum operator is reading this, he really ought to look into the
problem.

Jim Lanson

2006-08-14, 7:13 pm


"Dave Dawkins" <anon@comments.header> wrote in message
news:8BB0LYCR38943.6265393519@twistycreek.com...
>I have been running tests of the dizum and other gateways and notice that
> dizum is not forwarding messages that come from austria, cripto, or
> eelbash.
>
> I have sent half a dozen messages over the last few days through each
> remailer to mail2news@dizum.com, but none of them has made it to the test
> newsgroup. When they are sent through other gateways there is no problem.
>
> If the dizum operator is reading this, he really ought to look into the
> problem.
>


from what I have seen, he handles most of the posts to the nesgroups.
he has problems at times which stops a lot of posting, once a year for a day
or so.
overall he is "AAAAAAAA++++++++" GREAT!!
I thought austria was toast?


George Orwell

2006-08-14, 7:13 pm

On 14 Aug 2006, Dave Dawkins <anon@comments.header> wrote:
>I have been running tests of the dizum and other gateways and notice that
>dizum is not forwarding messages that come from austria, cripto, or
>eelbash.
>
>I have sent half a dozen messages over the last few days through each
>remailer to mail2news@dizum.com, but none of them has made it to the test
>newsgroup. When they are sent through other gateways there is no problem.
>
>If the dizum operator is reading this, he really ought to look into the
>problem.


Correct data, incorrect conclusions. Austria and Cripto do not forward mail
to any M2N gateway that I've been able to determine.

Eelbash is blocked because the arrogant cocksucker that runs eelbash, Jiang
Wu, tried really hard to get Dizum blocked from usenet access completely.



Borked Pseudo Mailed

2006-08-14, 7:13 pm

On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 21:51:18 +0200, George Orwell wrote:

> On 14 Aug 2006, Dave Dawkins <anon@comments.header> wrote:
>
> Correct data, incorrect conclusions. Austria and Cripto do not forward mail
> to any M2N gateway that I've been able to determine.
>
> Eelbash is blocked because the arrogant cocksucker that runs eelbash, Jiang
> Wu, tried really hard to get Dizum blocked from usenet access completely.


I cannot believe that DeJoode would be such an XXXXXXX as to block a
remailer based on personal pique.

If he would do such a thing, he should be given the usenet death penalty.

I am sure, however, that it is just some misconfiguration of his gateway.








Admin Twisty Creek

2006-08-15, 1:14 am

On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:55:43 -0600 (MDT), Borked Pseudo Mailed
<nobody@pseudo.borked.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 21:51:18 +0200, George Orwell wrote:
>
>
>I cannot believe that DeJoode would be such an XXXXXXX as to block a
>remailer based on personal pique.
>
>If he would do such a thing, he should be given the usenet death penalty.
>
>I am sure, however, that it is just some misconfiguration of his gateway.
>


Dizum is a little harder to connect to than the others.You have to set up your
mail server correctly for Dizum M2News to recognze it. I know, I had to tinker
with Mercury for a while to get Dizum to accept messages. The misconfiguration
would be on the re-mailer end as it was in my case. There is no misconfiguration
on Dizum's end.

Alex is one hell of a great man and way beyond pettiness.
Non scrivetemi

2006-08-15, 1:14 am

Borked Pseudo Mailed wrote:

> I cannot believe that DeJoode would be such an XXXXXXX as to block a
> remailer based on personal pique.


He doesn't. He does it as a public service because YOU'RE the XXXXXXX.

Borked Pseudo Mailed

2006-08-15, 7:14 am

> > Eelbash is blocked because the arrogant cocksucker that runs eelbash, Jiang
>
> I cannot believe that DeJoode would be such an XXXXXXX as to block a
> remailer based on personal pique.
>
> If he would do such a thing, he should be given the usenet death penalty.


SHUT UP EELBASH!





Zax

2006-08-15, 7:14 am

On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 21:51:18 +0200 (CEST), George Orwell wrote in
Message-Id: < 205e575c488027ca3a4a892310032f9d@mixmast
er.it>:

> Correct data, incorrect conclusions. Austria and Cripto do not forward mail
> to any M2N gateway that I've been able to determine.


Probably because they run virtually unmaintained and somebody has sent
dest-block requests for the mail2news gateways. There is a flaw in
mixmaster that block requests aren't challenged.

> Eelbash is blocked because the arrogant cocksucker that runs eelbash, Jiang
> Wu, tried really hard to get Dizum blocked from usenet access completely.


I doubt it, this isn't Alex's style. Most likely Eelbash is sending
mail in a non-RFC compliant manner and Dizum's MTA is dropping it.

--
pub 1024D/8ED57743 2003-07-08 Bananasplit Operator
Key fingerprint = 796F 67E0 E890 A0BB BDAE EBB4 94A6 7A09 8ED5 7743
uid Admin <admin.bananasplit.info>

Alan Connor

2006-08-15, 1:13 pm

On news.software.readers, in <9a28cc33d064141912a3d07e6d950b70@pseudo.borked.net>, "Borked Pseudo Mailed" wrote:

<article not downloaded:
http://slrn.sourceforge.net/docs/README.offline>

> Subject: Re: Dizum Gateway Blocking Some Remailers


Many ISPs, many NSPs, many newsfilters and spamfilters, block
_all_ mail or posts from remailers.

Like my newsfilter blocked _your_ article.

Slrn is a newsreader, not a toilet.

Note: I won't be downloading any articles on this thread.

Alan

--
Challenge-Response Systems are the best garbage-mail blockers
in the world. Spammers and trolls can't beat them and you
don't need to be a geek to use them. A brief introduction:
http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconnor/cr.html
alan connor FAQ

2006-08-15, 1:13 pm

Who is Alan Connor?

Alan Connor is the inventor and implementor of the final ultimate
solution to the spam problem, and everyone who dares claim otherwise
is a spammer.
That is basically the gist of the messages Alan sometimes spews into NANAE.

Alan Connor is appearently also trolling on many other newsgroups.


So what is he raving about?

In reality, Alan's system is known as a challenge-response or C/R system;
it auto-answers incoming email with a challenge and only lets the email
through if it receives a valid response. There are several problems with
this concept, but Alan doesn't want to hear them. In addition,
Alan's system isn't even a very good implementation of the C/R concept,
as it fails to address the chicken-egg problem that is inherent to C/R:
What if your C/R system sends a challenge to an email address that is
also protected by a C/R system? Because of this, Alan and Timo Salmi,
another C/R advocate, are unable to email eachother. So basically Alan's
system is a broken implementation of a flawed concept.

http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/ac/

http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Mail/challenge-response.html

http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/329.html#CR
Also in the headers for Alan to read.
Sam

2006-08-15, 7:12 pm

E.Nigma

2006-08-15, 7:12 pm

In article <8BB0LYCR38943.6265393519@twistycreek.com>
Dave Dawkins <anon@comments.header> wrote:
|
| I have been running tests of the dizum and other gateways and notice that
| dizum is not forwarding messages that come from austria, cripto, or
| eelbash.
|
| I have sent half a dozen messages over the last few days through each
| remailer to mail2news@dizum.com, but none of them has made it to the test
| newsgroup. When they are sent through other gateways there is no problem.
|
| If the dizum operator is reading this, he really ought to look into the
| problem.

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You abviously don't know the Dizum sysop. Alex runs a damned fine
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Runaway Remailer Admin

2006-08-31, 7:14 am


"Admin Twisty Creek" <admin@twistycreek^dot^com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:92e2e2lr043b19iauq6k4njiccr6olp1n4@
4ax.com...
> On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:55:43 -0600 (MDT), Borked Pseudo Mailed
> <nobody@pseudo.borked.net> wrote:
>
>
> Dizum is a little harder to connect to than the others.You have to set up
> your
> mail server correctly for Dizum M2News to recognze it. I know, I had to
> tinker
> with Mercury for a while to get Dizum to accept messages. The
> misconfiguration
> would be on the re-mailer end as it was in my case. There is no
> misconfiguration
> on Dizum's end.
>
> Alex is one hell of a great man and way beyond pettiness.


I face the same problems with my mercury set-up not being able to sens mails
to dizum. Can you advise how to fix ? I understood from your post that you
found a way how to set-up mercury to send to dizum. What do I need to do ?


Alex de Joode

2006-08-31, 7:14 am

Runaway Remailer Admin <anonymous@nym.alias.net> wrote:


- I face the same problems with my mercury set-up not being able to sens
- mails to dizum. Can you advise how to fix ? I understood from your post
- that you found a way how to set-up mercury to send to dizum. What do I
- need to do ?

You have to sent the fully qualified domain name and not only the
hostname when you connect to dizum. (during the smtp helo conversation)

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