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Gogarty

2007-01-23, 1:12 pm

I am running a TOR server as an exit node.

Is it possible for me to read the traffic passing thorugh my system?

Thomas J. Boschloo

2007-01-23, 7:16 pm

Gogarty wrote:
> I am running a TOR server as an exit node.
>
> Is it possible for me to read the traffic passing thorugh my system?

You need a special brain implant for this. Here let me help you with
this hammer and chisel!

:: slams chisel deep into Gogarty's skull ::

How do you feel now. Can you read the traffic yet?

Thomas
--
Why should I walk outside my world. If the whole world is in front of
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Gogarty

2007-01-23, 7:16 pm

In article <45b66a95$0$25222$e4fe514c@dreader26.news.xs4all.nl>,
nospam@hccnet.nl says...
>
>
>Gogarty wrote:
>
>You need a special brain implant for this. Here let me help you with
>this hammer and chisel!
>
>:: slams chisel deep into Gogarty's skull ::
>
>How do you feel now. Can you read the traffic yet?
>
>Thomas
>--
Thomas, that wasn't very nice at all. Says a whole hell of a lot more
about you than me.

Gogarty

2007-01-23, 7:16 pm

I have noticed that a disproportionate number of people on this group
tend to be really snarly when asked a simple question. Where does such
behavior get them?

marlowe

2007-01-23, 7:16 pm

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Gogarty wrote:
> I am running a TOR server as an exit node.
>
> Is it possible for me to read the traffic passing thorugh my system?
>
Gogarty,

You are capable of sniffing any unencrypted traffic which leaves your
server as an exit node. However the TOR developers have already noted
this and encourage their users to use encrypted traffic (HTTPS, IMAPS,
NNTPS, etc). As a exit node operator, it is considered bad form to
sniff exit traffic passing through your system.

Patrick
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marlowe

2007-01-23, 7:16 pm

marlowe

2007-01-23, 7:16 pm

marlowe

2007-01-23, 7:16 pm

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marlowe wrote:
> Gogarty wrote:
>
>
> Gogarty,
>
> You are capable of sniffing any unencrypted traffic which leaves your
> server as an exit node. However the TOR developers have already noted
> this and encourage their users to use encrypted traffic (HTTPS, IMAPS,
> NNTPS, etc). As a exit node operator, it is considered bad form to
> sniff exit traffic passing through your system.
>
> Patrick

My apologies for the multiple postings. My news client told me it
couldn't send due to a timeout.

Patrick
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Anonymous

2007-01-23, 7:16 pm

In article <J-SdnWlior3VHSvYnZ2dnUVZ_oPinZ2d@bway.net>
Gogarty <Gogarty@Clongowes.edu> wrote:
>
>
> Thomas, that wasn't very nice at all. Says a whole hell of a lot more
> about you than me.
>

You were asking how to snoop on other people's communications using
your tor server. If you don't want to allow people to use your tor
server, don't run one. If you don't want people to connect to anything
through your system, just run a middleman node, but don't snoop on
people's traffic.

Bad Gogarty!

Anonyma

2007-01-23, 7:16 pm

In article <J-SdnWhior1YHSvYnZ2dnUVZ_oPinZ2d@bway.net>
Gogarty <Gogarty@Clongowes.edu> wrote:
>
> I have noticed that a disproportionate number of people on this group
> tend to be really snarly when asked a simple question. Where does such
> behavior get them?

Into your head, apparently.

Anonyma

2007-01-24, 1:15 am

In article <eec01dbb15e66b60ff1396681e59dd88@deuxpi.ca>
anon-bounces@deuxpi.ca (Anonyma) wrote:
>
> In article <J-SdnWhior1YHSvYnZ2dnUVZ_oPinZ2d@bway.net>
> Gogarty <Gogarty@Clongowes.edu> wrote:
>
> Into your head, apparently.

Shut up Thomas.

Gogarty

2007-01-24, 1:15 am

In article <eec01dbb15e66b60ff1396681e59dd88@deuxpi.ca>,
anon-bounces@deuxpi.ca says...
>
>
>In article <J-SdnWhior1YHSvYnZ2dnUVZ_oPinZ2d@bway.net>
>Gogarty <Gogarty@Clongowes.edu> wrote:
>
>Into your head, apparently.

If by that you mean under my skin, no, not at all.
>

Gogarty

2007-01-24, 1:15 am

In article <ef2dad31a89553c1d124d5e674c1e1ec@anon.mixmaster.mixmin.net>,
nobody@mixmin.net says...
>
>
>In article <J-SdnWlior3VHSvYnZ2dnUVZ_oPinZ2d@bway.net>
>Gogarty <Gogarty@Clongowes.edu> wrote:
>
>You were asking how to snoop on other people's communications using
>your tor server. If you don't want to allow people to use your tor
>server, don't run one. If you don't want people to connect to anything
>through your system, just run a middleman node, but don't snoop on
>people's traffic.
>
>Bad Gogarty!

I don't mean to be bad. Sniff! I am just curious. I don't know where the
traffic is coming from nor where it is going. I am just curious as to its
nature and wondering if in fact one can tap into the traffic stream.
Think about it. If that is possible then TOR is useless.

Gogarty

2007-01-24, 1:15 am

In article <ep65u4$hkr$1@bananasplit.info>, marlowe@antagonism.org
says...
>
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>Gogarty wrote:
>Gogarty,
>
>You are capable of sniffing any unencrypted traffic which leaves your
>server as an exit node. However the TOR developers have already noted
>this and encourage their users to use encrypted traffic (HTTPS, IMAPS,
>NNTPS, etc). As a exit node operator, it is considered bad form to
>sniff exit traffic passing through your system.
>
I can see that and I will refrain from doing so. I wish to be a helper
with idle bandwidth, not a snoop.

Nomen Nescio

2007-01-24, 7:14 am

Gogarty wrote:

> I don't mean to be bad. Sniff! I am just curious. I don't know where
> the traffic is coming from nor where it is going. I am just curious
> as to its nature and wondering if in fact one can tap into the
> traffic stream. Think about it. If that is possible then TOR is
> useless.

Nonsense. You absolutely DO know where all traffic entering and leaving
your node comes from, and goes to. What yo DON'T know is source,
destination, and content together. Go ahead and "tap into it". You won't
see anything that isn't public knowledge anyway. Tor doesn't depend on
the honesty of individual operators. It's specifically designed to keep
user identity secured from even the network itself.

Honestly, for an alleged Tor node operator you sure are flying blind.
Which node is it you're claiming ownership of again? You do realize the
node list is public information too, right?

I didn't think so.

Gogarty

2007-01-24, 7:14 am

In article <4628b89889fc546074b44ff4921f3660@dizum.com>, nobody@dizum.com
says...
>
>
>Gogarty wrote:
>
>
>Nonsense. You absolutely DO know where all traffic entering and leaving
>your node comes from, and goes to. What yo DON'T know is source,
>destination, and content together. Go ahead and "tap into it". You won't
>see anything that isn't public knowledge anyway. Tor doesn't depend on
>the honesty of individual operators. It's specifically designed to keep
>user identity secured from even the network itself.
>
>Honestly, for an alleged Tor node operator you sure are flying blind.
>Which node is it you're claiming ownership of again? You do realize the
>node list is public information too, right?
>
>I didn't think so.

Yes, all 1,300 or so of them. Including mine. Thanks for the correction
though your manner warrants no thanks.
>

Thomas J. Boschloo

2007-01-24, 7:14 am

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marlowe wrote:
> Gogarty wrote:
>
>
> Gogarty,
>
> You are capable of sniffing any unencrypted traffic which leaves your
> server as an exit node. However the TOR developers have already noted
> this and encourage their users to use encrypted traffic (HTTPS, IMAPS,
> NNTPS, etc). As a exit node operator, it is considered bad form to
> sniff exit traffic passing through your system.

Unless you want to become a lifetime member of the RAAA.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt....a0b67041001163d

They will be more than happy to have Gogarty. He has already shown his
worth to eelbash's asshat association just by asking this question.

Thomas
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Nomen Nescio

2007-01-24, 7:12 pm

Gogarty <Gogarty@Clongowes.edu> wrote:

> I have noticed that a disproportionate number of people on this group
> tend to be really snarly when asked a simple question. Where does such
> behavior get them?

SHUT UP EELBASH!

Nomen Nescio

2007-01-25, 1:14 am

Gogarty wrote:

> In article <4628b89889fc546074b44ff4921f3660@dizum.com>,
> nobody@dizum.com says...
>
> Yes, all 1,300 or so of them. Including mine. Thanks for the
> correction though your manner warrants no thanks.

You're welcome, even though your own manner warrants no help, nor was
your education the purpose of a reply. You posted utter stupidity which
needed a correction appended to it in consideration of the
infinitesimally small statistical likelihood that one of the two living
residents of this planet even more clueless than you might stumble
across it, and be misled.

Your node "myshkin" has been up for what, 3 days? I suggest you spend a
little time reading, lurking, and educating yourself before posting any
more arrogant banality. Installing a piece of software doesn't make you
an expert, a mentor, or special in any way. Having even a modest grasp
of the basic functionality of that software and the ideal it serves
before trying to be any of those things will almost certainly make the
undertaking less perilous, Not to mention your life a little more
pleasureful in general.

And just for the record, this is Usenet. If you want your ego coddled
you need to relocate. There's an IRC channel over at OFTC for tor
enthusiasts, and a complimentary #nottor channel if you're just
feeling social. Maybe that environment would be a little less
distressing for you.

Oh wait.... you've already been there, haven't you?

admin@eelbash.yi.org

2007-01-25, 1:14 am

I've started a tor node called 'eelbash'.

It's middleman and I'm allowing 15gb / week of bandwidth.
What do you think of the bandwidth allocation? Is it sufficiently useful?

I would like to make it an exit but don't have a good feel for the
problems that that might cause me. Anyone have advice?

Anonymous

2007-01-25, 7:13 am

In article <20070125020508.0dSj36HiUlJt@anonymous.poster>
admin@eelbash.yi.org wrote:
>
> I've started a tor node called 'eelbash'.

Hi eelbash! Thanks for letting us know; I've just added it
to the ExcludeNodes line in my tor configuration file.

Zax

2007-01-25, 7:13 am

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On 25 Jan 2007 02:04:28 GMT, admin@eelbash.yi.org wrote in
Message-Id: <20070125020508.0dSj36HiUlJt@anonymous.poster>:

> It's middleman and I'm allowing 15gb / week of bandwidth.
> What do you think of the bandwidth allocation? Is it sufficiently useful?

It's a very small allocation but that's not to say it's useless. Banana
currently shifts about 2GB/Hour.

> I would like to make it an exit but don't have a good feel for the
> problems that that might cause me. Anyone have advice?

If you run it through a commercial provider then the likelihood is that
it will cause you trouble. In my experience of Tor, if you can't pass
the buck on to someone else then your provider will lay the blame on
you.

http://blog.bananasplit.info/?p=110

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Anonymous

2007-01-25, 7:13 am

> I've started a tor node called 'eelbash'.
>
> It's middleman and I'm allowing 15gb / week of bandwidth.
> What do you think of the bandwidth allocation? Is it sufficiently useful?
>
> I would like to make it an exit but don't have a good feel for the
> problems that that might cause me. Anyone have advice?

What a surprise. A conversation about seeing traffic coming out of
a tor exit node... suddenly eelbash wants to run a tor node.

Anonymous

2007-01-25, 1:13 pm

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On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:05:33 +0000, Zax wrote:

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> On 25 Jan 2007 02:04:28 GMT, admin@eelbash.yi.org wrote in
> Message-Id: <20070125020508.0dSj36HiUlJt@anonymous.poster>:
>
>
> It's a very small allocation but that's not to say it's useless. Banana
> currently shifts about 2GB/Hour.

Do you hibernate after a certain amount of bandwidth has been used? 2
gb/hour is 1440 gb/month.

>
>
> If you run it through a commercial provider then the likelihood is that
> it will cause you trouble. In my experience of Tor, if you can't pass
> the buck on to someone else then your provider will lay the blame on
> you.

To heck with that.

>
> http://blog.bananasplit.info/?p=110
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George Orwell

2007-01-25, 1:13 pm

Anonymous wrote:

>
> What a surprise. A conversation about seeing traffic coming out of
> a tor exit node... suddenly eelbash wants to run a tor node.

XXXX'm. His Tor node s ont eh same IP as his yi.org redirect and his
wifes stupid treadles.ca sewing machine site. So it's against his TOS.
I already sent a complaint to teksavvy. If they get enough of them
we'll kill his Tor node just like we killed his remialer. Hopefully
before the XXXXXXX can do any damage.

Thomas J. Boschloo

2007-01-25, 1:13 pm

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George Orwell wrote:
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> XXXX'm. His Tor node s ont eh same IP as his yi.org redirect and his
> wifes stupid treadles.ca sewing machine site. So it's against his TOS.
> I already sent a complaint to teksavvy. If they get enough of them
> we'll kill his Tor node just like we killed his remialer. Hopefully
> before the XXXXXXX can do any damage.

And he will learn how to take down other tor nodes. Can't you see this
is exactly what he wants?!

Thomas
- --
Why should I walk outside my world. If the whole world is in front of
the screen? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USFmVfooIx0
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Thomas J. Boschloo

2007-01-25, 1:13 pm

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You should really do something about that GnuPG version Eelbash Admin.
You are probably the only one in the world still using it. Progress is
Happiness!

:: makes a sad face ::
Not quite having your day, are you. First revealing your internet setup.
Then making a fool out of yourself with php posing. And now messing up
with your own sockpuppets. Just like Frog-Admin did eventually.

:: makes frowny face ::
So what will your excuse be? I suggest you use the same one that
Frog-Admin did. It has been put to the test already so you won't have to
hurt your little brain cells over some lame XXX excuse like he did.

Here. Learn some APA-S history lessons!
http://www.cotse.net/users/bluejay/...27s-undoing.txt

:: smiles at Eelbash ::
:: waves at Eelbash ::

I am having so much fun posting this, I knew you would mess up, you
always do..
Thomas
- --
Why should I walk outside my world. If the whole world is in front of
the screen? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USFmVfooIx0
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Zax

2007-01-25, 1:13 pm

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On 25 Jan 2007 13:51:25 -0000, Anonymous wrote in
Message-Id: <874494S439107.3273726852@anonymous.poster>:

> Do you hibernate after a certain amount of bandwidth has been used? 2
> gb/hour is 1440 gb/month.

I used to hibernate but currently I'm just restricting BandWidthRate.
If you configure hibernation then your Tor server will not advertise
itself as a directory mirror. As I run mine on OrPort 443 and DIRPort
80, it's good to advertise the directory for those behind facist
firewalls.

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Anonymous Remailer (austria)

2007-01-25, 1:13 pm

In article < 86a539d024ca71c0bef9b8a53c5b26d7@mixmast
er.it>
George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote:
>
> XXXX'm. His Tor node s ont eh same IP as his yi.org redirect and his
> wifes stupid treadles.ca sewing machine site. So it's against his TOS.
> I already sent a complaint to teksavvy. If they get enough of them
> we'll kill his Tor node just like we killed his remialer. Hopefully
> before the XXXXXXX can do any damage.

The only thing in this newsgroup worse than Eelbash is stupid netkops
like yourself.