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Using your own name or staying anonymous pros and cons
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| Borked Pseudo Mailed 2007-12-22, 1:14 am |
| apas is about staying anonymous on the Net and Usenet no?
Many people like me choose to use our names on the Net.
Trolls mental cases attack you.They use spam bots and plaster your name all over the newsgroups.
If you use name use a Digital signature then you can prove if the post is yours or a forger.
I would like to debate the usage of using your own name vers staying anonymous by using remailers and stating anonymous. The pros and cons.
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| Nomen Nescio 2007-12-22, 7:14 am |
| In article <0f6d733898ba2878a988d275b3550d9a@pseudo.borked.net>
Borked Pseudo Mailed <nobody@pseudo.borked.net> wrote:
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> apas is about staying anonymous on the Net and Usenet no?
> Many people like me choose to use our names on the Net.
> Trolls mental cases attack you.They use spam bots and
> plaster your name all over the newsgroups.
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> If you use name use a Digital signature then you can prove
> if the post is yours or a forger.
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> I would like to debate the usage of using your own name vers
> staying anonymous by using remailers and stating anonymous.
> The pros and cons.
Ok, you start. I need a good laugh! :->
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On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 22:50:29 -0700 (MST), Borked Pseudo Mailed wrote in
Message-Id: <0f6d733898ba2878a988d275b3550d9a@pseudo.borked.net>:
> If you use name use a Digital signature then you can prove if the post
> is yours or a forger.
With a signature you can provide linkability between postings. i.e. All
posting signed with the same key were posted by the same person. The
key can be anonymous and still provide this functionality.
If you want your key to identify you then you need sufficient
signatures on it from other people who have certified your identity.
This isn't compatible with anonymous communications. 
> I would like to debate the usage of using your own name vers staying
> anonymous by using remailers and stating anonymous. The pros and cons.
You can use both methods providing you're careful not to link your
anonymous persona with your identity. This is harder than is sounds:-
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/al...3e?dmode=source
I post to apa-s as Zax, other groups using my name and sometimes I choose
to use neither and post anonymously instead.
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| Anonymous Sender 2007-12-22, 1:14 pm |
| On Fri, 21 Dec 2007, Borked Pseudo Mailed <nobody@pseudo.borked.net> wrote:
>apas is about staying anonymous on the Net and Usenet no?
>Many people like me choose to use our names on the Net.
>Trolls mental cases attack you.They use spam bots and plaster your name all
>over the newsgroups.
>If you use name use a Digital signature then you can prove if the post is yours
>or a forger.
>I would like to debate the usage of using your own name vers staying anonymous
>by using remailers and stating anonymous. The pros and cons.
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This may not be the "debate" you're looking for, but I do
speak from a bit of Christian experience in posting to the
usenet newsgroups via remailers, always using my real name,
and always pgp clear-signing all of my posts. But I suppose
many writers do that nowadays, so there's not much to debate.
And with Google Groups broken beyond repair, there's not much
to bother with regarding inane trolls & stalkers. Use filters
judiciously (e.g. 40tude, newsproxy, hamster), and the trolls
and stalkers magically disappear. And they'll die someday and
burn in Hellfire into the ages, so look at the bright side!
The biggest "pro" that comes to mind is much like it was the
antediluvian days of Noah, leading up to the worldwide flood.
Remailers, freespeech, usenet, internet, electricity, living.
Everything the world thinks they own and control, they don't.
I used to believe "the pen is mightier than the sword". This
I no longer believe, but only extremely powerful nuclear and
most especially biological weapons shall produce the desired
effect upon this murderously evil, Anti-Christian, Atheistic
empire of iron mixed with miry clay--then the incoming seven
stadia along its major axis and the second coming of the Son
of man with the Dark clouds, all exactly like the bible says...
Meanwhile, I'm grateful to the remailer sysops for providing
this free service for as long as they have. Remember the old
song lyric: "you don't know what you've got till it's gone"?
Armageddon Cometh,
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/danieljosephmin/
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| Thomas J. Boschloo 2007-12-22, 7:12 pm |
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Borked Pseudo Mailed wrote:
> apas is about staying anonymous on the Net and Usenet no?
> Many people like me choose to use our names on the Net.
> Trolls mental cases attack you.They use spam bots and plaster your name all over the newsgroups.
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> If you use name use a Digital signature then you can prove if the post is yours or a forger.
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> I would like to debate the usage of using your own name vers staying anonymous by using remailers and stating anonymous. The pros and cons.
A big con for me is that eventually the big TLAs will find out who you
are. Then they can make you disappear and the readers of the group you
posted to won't even know *Who* went missing in their group. Let alone
BOO the TLA that might have done it (no body no crime).
I myself cannot be anonymous as I have posted too much under my real
name and all my posts are initially full of errors and have been heavily
edited afterwards.
And even when I try at my very best I still make the same misspellings
on words in every post, even though I don't know which words that would
actually be :-) Plus that my spellchecker doesn't find words that I
misspelled into other valid words.
Merry Christmas! And don't eat the yellow snow around Eelbash Admin!
Thomas
- --
A society with suicide bombers
is a polite society
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| Anonymous Sender 2007-12-22, 7:12 pm |
| In article < 6bf96d46f9aad0823a886b29b8bc099e@remaile
r.metacolo.com>
Anonymous Sender <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:
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> On Fri, 21 Dec 2007, Borked Pseudo Mailed <nobody@pseudo.borked.net> wrote:
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> This may not be the "debate" you're looking for, but I do
> speak from a bit of Christian experience in posting to the
> usenet newsgroups via remailers, always using my real name,
> and always pgp clear-signing all of my posts.
Drop dead XXXXXXX!
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| Anonymous 2007-12-23, 1:16 am |
| In article <0f6d733898ba2878a988d275b3550d9a@pseudo.borked.net>,
Randy Kehrt, pretending to be Borked Pseudo Mailed <nobody@pseudo.borked.net> wrote:
> apas is about staying anonymous on the Net and Usenet no?
> Many people like me choose to use our names on the Net.
> Trolls mental cases attack you.They use spam bots and plaster your name all
> over the newsgroups.
>
> If you use name use a Digital signature then you can prove if the post is
> yours or a forger.
>
> I would like to debate the usage of using your own name vers staying
> anonymous by using remailers and stating anonymous. The pros and cons.
>
Hi Randy,
I think using your real name is *REALLY STUPID* in most situations.
It might be OK for business purposes in a business NG but that is boderline IMHO.
regards,
anon
PS: your sig verified fine.
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| Nomen Nescio 2007-12-23, 7:14 am |
| Thomas J. Boschloo wrote:
> A big con for me is that eventually the big TLAs will find out who you
> are. Then they can make you disappear and the readers of the group you
> posted to won't even know *Who* went missing in their group.
Probably 'cause you're such a deadly Usenet uberhacker always
skittering around proving how dangerous you are. huh?
<snicker>
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| Daniel 2007-12-23, 1:11 pm |
| On Sat, 22 Dec 2007, "Thomas J. Boschloo" <nospam@hccnet.nl> wrote:
>Borked Pseudo Mailed wrote:
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>A big con for me is that eventually the big TLAs will find out who you
>are. Then they can make you disappear and the readers of the group you
>posted to won't even know *Who* went missing in their group. Let alone
>BOO the TLA that might have done it (no body no crime).
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Not in God's Universe, where every single person who ever walked
the face of the earth absolutely definitely has to pay the Piper,
each one every one _precisely_ according to their works of good
and their works of evil. Only the self-aggrandizing Atheists and
their next of kin, the CHRINOs (Christians in name-only) believe
otherwise. They'll definitely get their comeuppance someday, and
this much sooner, and vastly much longer-lasting than they think.
It won't be cinematic. There'll be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
You see, the terror is in the Light, Judgment, awaiting each one...
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>I myself cannot be anonymous as I have posted too much under my real
>name and all my posts are initially full of errors and have been heavily
>edited afterwards.
Good for you, Thomas! I believe everyone should always write and
sign their real name, or consistent nom de guerre, and clearsign
all articles they post. God always knows who's who & what's what,
so it makes no sense to conceal one's genuine identity from their
readership--unless they are either serious whistleblowers against
the government (including the mob, big corporations, the military)
or otherwise involved with antichrist activities (always involving
the pursuit of money, mammon, i.e. worldly power & worldly control).
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>And even when I try at my very best I still make the same misspellings
>on words in every post, even though I don't know which words that would
>actually be :-) Plus that my spellchecker doesn't find words that I
>misspelled into other valid words.
Historically, the biggest mistake generals have ever made, was in
underestimating their powerful, or otherwise resourceful, enemies.
Or, to quote Salvador Dali, "You don't know what you don't know."
Thus governments can ill-afford not to know who their enemies are,
neither not to know everything about them that they possibly can.
It's like with the Muslims. They're weak only because they don't
have a nuclear arsenal at their disposal. But only a fool would
underestimate their resolve and resourcefulness, as thermonuclear
warheads are not the only form of WMDs. There are other types of
weapons, e.g. of the biological varieties--now there's a weapon of
mass destruction! And given how thoroughly corrupt the Government
is, don't fool yourself into believing they haven't got everyone's
name and number, complete with up-to-date dossiers on every person
on Earth whom they deem to be a potential threat, and/or otherwise.
It's like they claim they haven't cracked PGP, Mix, etc. Sure they
haven't. And I've got the Brooklyn Bridge up for sale. Wanna but it?
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>Merry Christmas! And don't eat the yellow snow around Eelbash Admin!
>Thomas
And Merry Xmas back at ya, Thomas (even if you are a damned Atheist).
Armageddon Cometh,
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/danieljosephmin/
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| Anonymous 2007-12-23, 1:11 pm |
| In article <91279cb51974aa47c0e3568fb28b4408@nymkey.com>
Daniel <babylon@usa> wrote:
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> On Sat, 22 Dec 2007, "Thomas J. Boschloo" <nospam@hccnet.nl> wrote:
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> Daniel Joseph Min
alt.XXXXXXX.daniel-joseph-min
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