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TOR even suckier than b4
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| Nomen Nescio 2007-02-06, 7:14 pm |
| I posted about this b4 using tor, but the post was rogue cancelled and one
wonders if that was a tor exit server that cancelled it?
I don't have time to spend becoming an expert in onion routing, but I can tell
you TOR is no faster than it was 2 years ago. It is sloooooooowwwwwwwwww. Probably
from their policy of letting any jackass run a tor server, without consideration
to whether they bought their computers at a swap meet and are 20 years old.
Or whether or not they are not hackers who are purposely trying to XXXX things
up or spy on people.
If there was/is an alternative that offers privacy protection and encrypted
routing, I'd like to hear about it. I am sick of Tor and it's sludge slow poor
performance. Really crappy, sucks, eats shit. How else can I put it?
And don't think for a moment that gov. agencies have not found a crack for
tor and/or will soon have one. Any service that is so amateur in nature cannot
withstand the onslaught of true cryptographic internet experts. Those working
for the NSA aren't about to be bested by a group of amateurs.
Besides being slow, I think Tor servers are involved in some kind of DOS attacks.
Have had alot of problems with lost chat connections and stalling, seems to
happen when Tor servers crap out as they frequently do.
Is JAP still around?
XXXX you in advance to any flamers. Fix tor or bury it. It sucks.
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| George Orwell 2007-02-07, 1:14 am |
| In article <48e55bdc0a894e1fdd982d701cdeb383@dizum.com>
Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
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It seems that your remailer client is pretty sucky too. It's unable
to post something just the once.
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| Anonymous 2007-02-07, 7:14 am |
| In article <48e55bdc0a894e1fdd982d701cdeb383@dizum.com>
Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
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> Is JAP still around?
Yes. I forget the URL, but googling it should suffice. It's still
actively developed, although I should warn you that it now has an
option to connect to the JAP servers through Tor servers...
You're complaining about Tor's speed. Could you enlighten us as to
exactly what speed you are getting through Tor? What is the slowness
you are experiencing, is it when connecting to something or is it the
speed of things you are download, or what? Is it the speed it takes to
start up?
FWIW, any slow down with the tor network has nothing to do with the
speed of the computers running. It's all to do with network bandwidth.
Tor doesn't give you any noticable speed increase running it on the
latest Core Duo processors than it would running on a P3 500.
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| Nomen Nescio 2007-02-07, 1:12 pm |
| On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 23:39:53 -0600, Ed wrote:
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> The only problem with TOR Is that there's a LOT more users than nodes,
> and among nodes, there are a LOT more middleman than exit. What TOR
> needs more than anything else is more exit nodes.
I run an exit remailer using Reliable and use its filters and the filters
in Mercury to block certain newsgroups and to block email addresses on
request.
Can I do that if I am running a TOR exit node?
If I can, I would consider running an exit node. If I can't, no way would
I run an exit node.
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> I run an exit remailer using Reliable and use its filters and the filters
> in Mercury to block certain newsgroups and to block email addresses on
> request.
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> Can I do that if I am running a TOR exit node?
Tor exit policies enable you to define precisely what
ports, subnets and addresses you provide exit functionality for. You
can't specifically filter email or newsgroups because Tor has neither
email nor news functionality.
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| Borked Pseudo Mailed 2007-02-07, 1:12 pm |
| In article <e8e000f2517c46d4375af748196f9cb9@dizum.com>
Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
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> On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 23:39:53 -0600, Ed wrote:
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> I run an exit remailer using Reliable and use its filters and the filters
> in Mercury to block certain newsgroups and to block email addresses on
> request.
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> Can I do that if I am running a TOR exit node?
Can you run an exit remailer with Reliable and run a tor exit node at
the same time? Sure.
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> In article <48e55bdc0a894e1fdd982d701cdeb383@dizum.com>
> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
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Yes, but be sure to wash your hands afterward.
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> FWIW, any slow down with the tor network has nothing to do with the
> speed of the computers running. It's all to do with network bandwidth.
> Tor doesn't give you any noticable speed increase running it on the
> latest Core Duo processors than it would running on a P3 500.
Right. The biggest bottleneck with Tor that I know of is the number of
exit servers.
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| Anonyma 2007-02-08, 1:15 am |
| In article <1fcaec79aea1a8d133029081dcc07673@dizum.com>
Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
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> That's too bad. So I can allow a connection to port 80 for email and port
> 119 for news, but cannot filter on the email and news messages that go
> out. Although you did mention 'addresses'. Does that include newsgroup
> names and email addresses? I checked a list of running TOR servers, and
> saw lots of ports listed, but no email addresses or newsgroup names, so I
> assume the answer is no. I wonder why the people who wrote Mercury and
> Reliable put in filtering but the writers of TOR did not? Maybe TOR would
> attract more exit operators if the operators could have more control over
> their own node. Personally, if I ran an exit node to port 80 and somebody
> complained about nasty emails and wanted his address blocked, what could I
> do? It sounds like nothing can be done. Maybe I can co-locate my server.
> I could probably provide 20+ gigs per day, but do not want the hassle.
So easy that no prizes are offered for guessing who that remop is.
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| Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer 2007-02-08, 7:12 pm |
| On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Anonyma <anon-bounces@deuxpi.ca> wrote:
>In article <1fcaec79aea1a8d133029081dcc07673@dizum.com>
>Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
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>So easy that no prizes are offered for guessing who that remop is.
You mean a remop who wants access to another encrypted data stream?
One who will host a Tor node, provided he can spy on what others are doing,
and block them if he disapproves?
A remop who want to implement filtering on the anonymous web surfing?
Hmmmmm, whoever could that be? Who does that sound like?
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| George Orwell 2007-02-08, 7:12 pm |
| On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:21:03 +0100, Cyberiade.it wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Anonyma <anon-bounces@deuxpi.ca> wrote:
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> You mean a remop who wants access to another encrypted data stream?
> One who will host a Tor node, provided he can spy on what others are doing,
> and block them if he disapproves?
> A remop who want to implement filtering on the anonymous web surfing?
> Hmmmmm, whoever could that be? Who does that sound like?
Who?
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| George Orwell 2007-02-08, 7:12 pm |
| On Thu, 8 Feb 2007, George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote:
>On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:21:03 +0100, Cyberiade.it wrote:
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>Who?
Why, that meddling cunt, Eelbash, of course! Who else?
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| Anonyma 2007-02-09, 1:15 am |
| In article <48e55bdc0a894e1fdd982d701cdeb383@dizum.com>
Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
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> I posted about this b4 using tor, but the post was rogue cancelled and one
> wonders if that was a tor exit server that cancelled it?
>
> I don't have time to spend becoming an expert in onion routing, but I can tell
> you TOR is no faster than it was 2 years ago. It is sloooooooowwwwwwwwww. Probably
> from their policy of letting any jackass run a tor server, without consideration
> to whether they bought their computers at a swap meet and are 20 years old.
> Or whether or not they are not hackers who are purposely trying to XXXX things
> up or spy on people.
I can see why you'd have a problem with Tor if you're in such a hurry that
you can't type the four extra letters to spell out 'before'. Feelin'
Groovy you ain't.
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