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| Anonyma 2007-04-09, 1:13 am |
| Sending via QS > Tor > Banana SMTP, I get error about faked HELO.
How then can I use Banana SMTP??
Sending Message 1 of 1
Encountered mixmaster message
Mixmaster encrypting...
Mixmaster reports 1 chain:
banana,austria,cyberiad,borked
Mixmaster Chain 1 of 1
Connecting...
220 mail.mixmin.net ESMTP Postfix (Debian/GNU)
250 mail.mixmin.net
250 2.1.0 Ok
554 5.7.1 <bananasplit.info>: Helo command rejected: Faked HELO
Aborting...
Connection closed!
ERROR: 1 unsent message in PROBLEM Queue!
Session finished
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On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 21:27:54 -0400 (EDT), Anonyma wrote in
Message-Id: <d46cd06d7a166d54187b22d336b8f4d5@deuxpi.ca>:
> Sending via QS > Tor > Banana SMTP, I get error about faked HELO.
>
> How then can I use Banana SMTP??
You're getting a 'faked HELO' because you're using one of my domain
names or ip addresses in your HELO. Try using anything else, it doesn't
even have to be valid.
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| Glenn P., 2007-04-16, 7:14 pm |
| On 09-Apr-07 at 9:02am -0000, <admin@bananasplit.info> wrote:
> You're getting a 'faked HELO' because you're using one of my domain
> names or ip addresses in your HELO. Try using anything else, it doesn't
> even have to be valid.
Pardon me for jumping in -- but I am also a QuickSilver user, and I haven't
GOD's own notion of what in HELL (or "HELO"?) you are babbling about! What
in the name of all things sinister is a "HELO" ??? And how does one go about
setting a "domain name or IP address" in the aforesaid "HELO" when using
QuickSilver ???
Better still, since the problem apparently lies in the fact that this "HELO"
thingy (whatever that is) is NOT supposed to contain your "domain name or IP
address", how does one UNset the name or address in one's "HELO" ???
Kindly stop assuming that everyone is as expert as you are! We're not!!! 
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| On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:19:35 -0400, "Glenn P.,"
<C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net> wrote:
>On 09-Apr-07 at 9:02am -0000, <admin@bananasplit.info> wrote:
>
>
>Pardon me for jumping in -- but I am also a QuickSilver user, and I haven't
>GOD's own notion of what in HELL (or "HELO"?) you are babbling about! What
>in the name of all things sinister is a "HELO" ??? And how does one go about
>setting a "domain name or IP address" in the aforesaid "HELO" when using
>QuickSilver ???
Then why not google for it?? You should be able to quickly find its
meaning, take this website e.g.:
http://puszcza.gnu.org.ua/software/...ELO-Domain.html
And many more of course!
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| Nomen Nescio 2007-04-16, 7:14 pm |
| On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:17:31 +0200, John wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:19:35 -0400, "Glenn P.,"
> <C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net> wrote:
>
>
> Then why not google for it??
I don't wish to sound churlish; I'm grateful that the admin took the time
to answer at all; but How far back do you have to go to get a simple
explanation, and why should you have to go anywhere other than this group?
This group is for people who want to learn about anonymity. Shouldn't the
experts take care to describe things simply and clearly when they are
talking to a newbie?
> You should be able to quickly find its
> meaning, take this website e.g.:
>
> http://puszcza.gnu.org.ua/software/...ELO-Domain.html
>
> And many more of course!
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:19:35 -0400, Glenn P., wrote in
Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0704161712090.5093@Bfjrtb.SbkInyyrl.arg>:
> Pardon me for jumping in -- but I am also a QuickSilver user, and I haven't
> GOD's own notion of what in HELL (or "HELO"?) you are babbling about! What
> in the name of all things sinister is a "HELO" ??? And how does one go about
> setting a "domain name or IP address" in the aforesaid "HELO" when using
> QuickSilver ???
A HELO (or EHLO) is the email equivalent of you introducing yourself to
someone. Using my computer name to say HELO to my computer is therefore
a faked identity. You can be anyone else except me.
> Better still, since the problem apparently lies in the fact that this "HELO"
> thingy (whatever that is) is NOT supposed to contain your "domain name or IP
> address", how does one UNset the name or address in one's "HELO" ???
Afraid I have no idea as I've not looked at Quicksilver for years. I
could download it and play with it but I'm sure another QS user can
provide you with a better answer than I can. If you don't get an answer
here, try the QS mailing lists at
http://www.quicksilvermail.net/lists.html
> Kindly stop assuming that everyone is as expert as you are! We're not!!!
In this instance I could only answer the question by identifying the
symptoms. The cure is beyond my knowledge and control.
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| Glenn P., 2007-04-16, 7:14 pm |
| On 17-Apr-07 at 1:00am +0200, <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
:>> You're getting a 'faked HELO' because you're using one of my domain
:>> names or ip addresses in your HELO. Try using anything else, it doesn't
:>> even have to be valid.
:> Then why not google for it??
[vbcol=seagreen]
> I don't wish to sound churlish; I'm grateful that the admin took the time
> to answer at all; but How far back do you have to go to get a simple
> explanation, and why should you have to go anywhere other than this group?
> This group is for people who want to learn about anonymity. Shouldn't the
> experts take care to describe things simply and clearly when they are
> talking to a newbie?
I couldn't have put the thing better myself if I'd tried!
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(:_~*~_ the trees hung low and thick, and the earth beneath them was damp
(_)-(_) and dark and dank, and no birds sang.
========= "This," said Katherine, "is what I would call a tulgey wood."
///////// "Don't!" cried Martha. "Suppose something came whiffling
========= through it!" --EAGER, Edward: "Half Magic" (Chapter IV).
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| Nomen Nescio 2007-04-17, 1:13 pm |
| In article <Pine.LNX.4.61.0704161712090.5093@Bfjrtb.SbkInyyrl.arg>
"Glenn P.," <C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net> wrote:
>
> On 09-Apr-07 at 9:02am -0000, <admin@bananasplit.info> wrote:
>
>
> Pardon me for jumping in -- but I am also a QuickSilver user, and I haven't
> GOD's own notion of what in HELL (or "HELO"?) you are babbling about! What
> in the name of all things sinister is a "HELO" ??? And how does one go about
> setting a "domain name or IP address" in the aforesaid "HELO" when using
> QuickSilver ???
>
> Better still, since the problem apparently lies in the fact that this "HELO"
> thingy (whatever that is) is NOT supposed to contain your "domain name or IP
> address", how does one UNset the name or address in one's "HELO" ???
>
> Kindly stop assuming that everyone is as expert as you are! We're not!!!
QS let's you change the HELO.
Use this header
Sign-On: nowhere.net
Just put it among the headers in your message. It doesn't have to be
nowhere.net Could be any domain.
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| Nomen Nescio 2007-04-17, 7:13 pm |
| In article <Pine.LNX.4.61.0704161926400.23752@Bfjrtb.SbkInyyrl.arg>
"Glenn P.," <C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net> wrote:
>
> On 17-Apr-07 at 1:00am +0200, <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
>
> :>> You're getting a 'faked HELO' because you're using one of my domain
> :>> names or ip addresses in your HELO. Try using anything else, it doesn't
> :>> even have to be valid.
>
>
> :> Then why not google for it??
>
>
>
> I couldn't have put the thing better myself if I'd tried!
Zax gave you the URL for the QS support lists. Don't you think that's
a reasonable reply?
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Zax <admin@bananasplit.info> wrote in
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> On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:19:35 -0400, Glenn P., wrote in
> Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0704161712090.5093@Bfjrtb.SbkInyyrl.arg>:
>
>
> A HELO (or EHLO) is the email equivalent of you introducing yourself
> to someone. Using my computer name to say HELO to my computer is
> therefore a faked identity. You can be anyone else except me.
>
>
>
> Afraid I have no idea as I've not looked at Quicksilver for years. I
> could download it and play with it but I'm sure another QS user can
> provide you with a better answer than I can. If you don't get an
> answer here, try the QS mailing lists at
> http://www.quicksilvermail.net/lists.html
>
>
> In this instance I could only answer the question by identifying the
> symptoms. The cure is beyond my knowledge and control.
I had this same problem recently. Here's the solution I found:
In the QS template I use these headers:
Fcc: outbox
Host: 127.0.0.1:2525
Sign-on: none.invalid
From: foo@bar.invalid
Chain: banana,*,*,*; copies=3
To:
Subject:
The 'Sign-on:' header tells Qs what to use for the HELO (or EHLO) part
of the exchange with the smtp server
Then in stunnel.conf I have the following entry:
[BANANA_TLS_SMTP]
protocol = smtp
accept = 127.0.0.1:2525
connect = mail.bananasplit.info:2525
delay = no
QS then connects to Bananasplit.info's smtp by way of Stunnel. This
means that not only is the connection direct to the remailers smtp, but
by using stunnel it's encrypted also. If you take the extra step of
running TOR and sockifying stunnel, your connection to Bananasplit is
then anonymized as well.
For more details have a look at this:
http://www.panta-rhei.eu.org/pantaw...thTorAndStunnel
and this:
http://www.bananasplit.info/stunnel.html
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HTTP://lurasbookcase.com/guilt.shtml
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| Anonyma 2007-04-17, 7:13 pm |
| In article <8d18d21509b04b6498ce218de74854f6@dizum.com>
Eelbash Admin wrote:
>
> I don't wish to sound churlish; I'm grateful that the admin took the time
> to answer at all; but How far back do you have to go to get a simple
> explanation, and why should you have to go anywhere other than this group?
>
> This group is for people who want to learn about anonymity. Shouldn't the
> experts take care to describe things simply and clearly when they are
> talking to a newbie?
Eelbash, Zax responded perfectly politely. He simply said that his
server reports that error when the HELO command contains his domain
name.
How exactly is he supposed to know whether or not QS did it by default
or whether the OP used a QS Header command to change the helo or
anything else? All he could reply was why it happened.
PS: Your software is still outing you in your posts. Seriously,
consider downloading a hex editor and looking at your posts. If you're
going to out yourself without your knowledge in every post you make,
you may as well not even bother posting through remailers. It's worth
the time to download that hex editor.
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| Glenn P., 2007-04-22, 7:12 pm |
| On 17-Apr-07 at 8:50pm +0200, <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
> Zax gave you the URL for the QS support lists. Don't you think that's
> a reasonable reply?
I gather from this question that you do not consider this newsgroup ALSO
to be a form of "QS Support List".
-- %%%%%%%%%%% "Glenn P.," <C128UserDELETE-THIS@FVI.Net> %%%%%%%%%%%
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{~._.~} "...Nor is it strange,
_( Y )_ After changes upon changes, we are more or less the same;
(:_~*~_ After changes, we are more or less the same..."
(_)-(_) --------------------------------
========= --SIMON, Paul; & GARFUNKLE, Art:
========= "The Boxer" (Sung In Concert).
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| Anonyma 2007-04-22, 7:12 pm |
| > > Zax gave you the URL for the QS support lists. Don't you think that's
>
> I gather from this question that you do not consider this newsgroup ALSO
> to be a form of "QS Support List".
As the author of QS doesn't consider this newsgroup a form of QS
support, and only reads the QS Support list, then yes I would say
that I do not consider this newsgroup to be a form of QS support.
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| George Orwell 2007-04-22, 7:12 pm |
| On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:07:58 -0400, Anonyma wrote:
>
> As the author of QS doesn't consider this newsgroup a form of QS
> support, and only reads the QS Support list, then yes I would say
> that I do not consider this newsgroup to be a form of QS support.
5 years ago, the author of QS and many other knowledgeable people did read
this group, and questions like that of the OP would have been answered
directly.
Why has that changed?
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| George Orwell 2007-04-22, 7:12 pm |
| Glenn P. wrote:
> On 17-Apr-07 at 8:50pm +0200, <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
>
>
> I gather from this question that you do not consider this newsgroup
> ALSO to be a form of "QS Support List".
It most certainly is not, according to the emphatic statements of the
author himself.
Sorry.
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| Nomen Nescio 2007-04-23, 1:14 am |
| nobody@mixmaster.it wrote:
> 5 years ago, the author of QS and many other knowledgeable people did read
> this group, and questions like that of the OP would have been answered
> directly.
>
> Why has that changed?
>
Because of the floods and the poster(s) who can't do anything but insult
everyone. Nost of the helpful people left and some of us remops have
switched to being anon and rarely read/post because of the noise and
idiots who are incapable of posting anything but ego dripping insults.
It happened both in here and alt.privacy
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| Anonyma 2007-04-23, 1:14 am |
| In article < 58425dc670da82e64928c123f0ff2385@mixmast
er.it>
George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote:
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> 5 years ago, the author of QS and many other knowledgeable people did read
> this group, and questions like that of the OP would have been answered
> directly.
>
> Why has that changed?
Richard (the author) was subjected to a tirade of abuse by Frog Admin
and decided to move away from the group. You can look back through
Google Groups for the PGP signed message where Richard announced his
mailing lists and how he wouldn't read the group any more.
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| Nomen Nescio 2007-04-23, 7:12 am |
| In article <3b9d9bc1a9028d6a3868d93cdf527b1e@deuxpi.ca>
Anonyma <anon-bounces@deuxpi.ca> wrote:
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> In article < 58425dc670da82e64928c123f0ff2385@mixmast
er.it>
> George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote:
>
> Richard (the author) was subjected to a tirade of abuse by Frog Admin
> and decided to move away from the group. You can look back through
> Google Groups for the PGP signed message where Richard announced his
> mailing lists and how he wouldn't read the group any more.
Well, that's not exactly true. Richard was still here for a while
after Frog left. The abuse was directed at many people in the group.
He moved support to mailing lists so that this group wouldn't be
constantly bombarded by support requests. Turns out there has not
been much support needed on the lists as far as I can see.
I don't think the amount of support requests here has been bad. I
doubt he minds too much. Considering he can't control it anyway.
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