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Anonymous

2007-05-21, 7:14 pm

Say it isn't so. Alex de Joode can't possibly be "Daniel Joseph Min?" State
employee? "Dizum" run by the government? De Joode English?

I smell a rat.

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KLM <mishiga@mchsi.com> writes:[vbcol=seagreen]
>Hoots wrote:
>
>
>Owner of dizum.com in the NL and may be Min himself
>or if not definately knows who MIN is. The irony of Merli is
>he's a State employee. He runs this bottom feeding remailer
>service dizum.com on the side sending spam to the whole world.
>He particularly loves disrupting news groups. He's on the State Dept watch
>list. He purchased
>dizum.com from a previous Swiss owner about a decade ago after things got too
>hot for the Swiss
>owner (because there are actually Laws in Switzerland!). It was
>this former Swiss owner who spilled the beans on Merli and Min
>but nobody has been able or willing to shut Merli down ......
>
>KLM
>
>
>

Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer

2007-05-21, 7:14 pm

In article <739048923035d1ea951a154b4a4f1209@ecn.org>
Anonymous <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Say it isn't so. Alex de Joode can't possibly be "Daniel Joseph Min?" State
> employee? "Dizum" run by the government? De Joode English?
>
> I smell a rat.
>

If you take a look at the xposting of this retard troll, you'll see he
is just that: a troll.

alt.privacy.anon-server,
sci.astro.amateur,
alt.astronomy,
alt.politics.homosexuality,
soc.penpals

2007-05-21, 7:14 pm

would you like to see my toes

Borked Pseudo Mailed

2007-05-22, 1:13 am

Sherlock, the original <46514075.11B905CB@mchsi.com> was posted to

sci.astro.amateur,
alt.astronomy,
alt.fan.prettyboy,
alt.politics.homosexuality,
soc.penpals

Ever heard of the "groups.google.com" thingamajig? Your "retard troll" was
obviously alerting Alex de Joode, that this bogus rumor was being spread around
by some "NewsGuy" abuser, "KLM" <mishiga@mchsi.com>.

You could have pulled your head out of your XXX, before making an XXX out of
yourself, you XXXXing idiot.

X-No-Archive: yes
Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer <anonymous@remailer.cyberiade.it> wrote:
>In article <739048923035d1ea951a154b4a4f1209@ecn.org>
>Anonymous <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:
>
>If you take a look at the xposting of this retard troll, you'll see he
>is just that: a troll.
>
> alt.privacy.anon-server,
> sci.astro.amateur,
> alt.astronomy,
> alt.politics.homosexuality,
> soc.penpals

Borked Pseudo Mailed

2007-05-22, 1:13 am

In article < rNKdnZPdKZTpi8_bnZ2dnUVZ_oytnZ2d@giganew
s.com>
"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> would you like to see my toes
>

I don't know, do they do anything that my toes can't do?

Fritz Wuehler

2007-05-22, 1:13 am

On Mon, 21 May 2007 14:59:01 -0700, % wrote:

> would you like to see my toes

This is off-topic.

Borked Pseudo Mailed

2007-05-22, 1:13 am

Borked Pseudo Mailed <nobody@pseudo.borked.net> wrote:
>In article <8cff239947633d91759787902f49f12c@pseudo.borked.net>
>Borked Pseudo Mailed <nobody@pseudo.borked.net> wrote:
>
>Plonk!

Plunk!

Sjouke Burry

2007-05-22, 1:13 am

Fritz Wuehler wrote:
> On Mon, 21 May 2007 14:59:01 -0700, % wrote:
>
>

I dont like the manure showing between them........

Hoots

2007-05-22, 7:13 am

Borked Pseudo Mailed wrote:
> Borked Pseudo Mailed <nobody@pseudo.borked.net> wrote:
>
> Plunk!
>

Plink!

Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer

2007-05-22, 1:13 pm

Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-200705.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 21 May 2007 14:59:01 -0700, % wrote:
>
>
>This is on-topic.

I agree. I'll show you mine if you'll show me yours.

You should see my big toe.

Anonymous

2007-05-25, 7:13 pm

Mik3

2007-05-26, 7:13 am

Anonymous wrote:

> Say it isn't so. Alex de Joode can't possibly be "Daniel Joseph Min?" State
> employee? "Dizum" run by the government? De Joode English?
>
> I smell a rat.
>
> ---
>

Min posts through the anonymous remailer Dizum and is protected by: Dizum. deJoode
and Merli are or were Dizum. There was a third actor in Switzerland - forget his
name but he sold out and was no longer associated, he said.

There is a 100% certainty Merli/deJoode know who Min is. And yes one is or was a
state employee, for years. But I have never heard Dizum is a State run operation. I
doubt that.

Google had a cached copy of the Dizum website years ago and on that site it showed a
dumpy house and a dumpy yard and garage, the reported headquarters (the article
said) for Dizum.com. There was a photo of the house cat in another photo!

Now why is this all a mystery or news?

People have tried to nail MIN for years and some did, years ago. He stopped posting
for a while because of this. Some said he was
in Denver, some in Amsterdam because of the Merli, deJoode, Dizum connection which
Google and others confirmed. Some said he was Sam Wormley! People have been all over
the map with this nonsense. "Borked Pseudo XXXXwit" may be MIN for all I know.

The one thing I do know and everyone on the planet including Google knows for sure,
is MIN posts through the anonymous remailer Dizum.com. deJoodeand Merli are
Dizum.com. Dizum
once had a commercial side for a time. But given the millions of spam posts by MIN
to usenet years ago, people got curious.

Google got lots of inquiries and looked into it and I think they found MIN. Google
and people on usenet built a series of links until finally MIN went into a tirade
over several months on year, he made a few slips of the tongue spouting his arrogant
self defense bull about his right to post anything anywhere any time, he got
challenged by a
few usenet moderators who went straight to usenet administrators trying to get MIN
permanently banned, and suddenly MIN went stone silent for months!

The link to Dizum.com had surfaced not only because of the formal attempts to locate
and identify Min because of people trying to shut the troll down, but first and
foremost right out of MIN's own bragging and it was MIN hismelf who finally
confirmed DIZUM his source of anonymous remailing. MIN basically stated: Dizum as a
"free speech remailer who nobody including the United States State Dept. can touch
or shut down"! Large claims on MIN's part, as
usual.

I was very tempted to test his assertion. I know others felt likewise.
But MIN backed off for a time and Dizum went underground, and
one part owner of Dizum pulled out to save himself grief. I know
this because he told me.

A number of people found the tracks, some did formal tracing,
but everyone in the end simply followed and relied on MIN's own bragging bullshit
.... right to Dizum.com

Merli and deJoode were contacted by many people.

If you dont like MIN contact Alex!

KLM

[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> KLM <mishiga@mchsi.com> writes:

Mik3

2007-05-26, 7:13 am

You are everywhere arent ya? Maybe you are MIN!

Borked Pseudo Mailed wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Sherlock, the original <46514075.11B905CB@mchsi.com> was posted to
>
> sci.astro.amateur,
> alt.astronomy,
> alt.fan.prettyboy,
> alt.politics.homosexuality,
> soc.penpals
>
> Ever heard of the "groups.google.com" thingamajig? Your "retard troll" was
> obviously alerting Alex de Joode, that this bogus rumor was being spread around
> by some "NewsGuy" abuser, "KLM" <mishiga@mchsi.com>.
>
> You could have pulled your head out of your XXX, before making an XXX out of
> yourself, you XXXXing idiot.
>
> X-No-Archive: yes
> Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer <anonymous@remailer.cyberiade.it> wrote:

Alex de Joode

2007-05-26, 7:13 am

In alt.privacy.anon-server Mik3 <michael@mchsi.com> wrote:
: Anonymous wrote:

: > Say it isn't so. Alex de Joode can't possibly be "Daniel Joseph Min?" State
: > employee? "Dizum" run by the government? De Joode English?
: >
: > I smell a rat.
: >
: > ---
: >

: Google had a cached copy of the Dizum website years ago and on that site it showed a
: dumpy house and a dumpy yard and garage, the reported headquarters (the article
: said) for Dizum.com. There was a photo of the house cat in another photo!

Pussy Galore is our watch cat, she guards the security of our hidden H.Q.

Daniel Joseph Min

2007-05-26, 1:16 pm

On Sat, 26 May 2007, adejoode+usenet@dizum.com (Alex de Joode) wrote:
>In alt.privacy.anon-server Mik3 <michael@mchsi.com> wrote:
>: Anonymous wrote:
>
>: > Say it isn't so. Alex de Joode can't possibly be "Daniel Joseph Min?"
>: > State
>: > employee? "Dizum" run by the government? De Joode English?
>: >
>: > I smell a rat.
>
>: Google had a cached copy of the Dizum website years ago and on that site it
>: showed a
>: dumpy house and a dumpy yard and garage, the reported headquarters (the
>: article
>: said) for Dizum.com. There was a photo of the house cat in another photo!
>
>Pussy Galore is our watch cat, she guards the security of our hidden H.Q.

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LOL! I wonder if these sock-puppet "geniuses" ad nauseam, e.g...

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_...y=2007&safe=off

...have ever heard of freedom of speech & freedom of religion?
They imagine Science is "for Atheists-only". They're dead wrong;
thus Non-Atheists around the world are reminding Atheists every
day that all knowledge is not the exclusive purview of Atheists.

Too bad these bigoted Atheists have forgotten this human being,
not that Voltaire might've actually said this, or written this,
but one of my favorite (in this case, undocumented) quotations
is loosely attributed to the world-famous philosopher Voltaire:

"Monsieur l'abbe, je deteste ce que vous ecrivez,
My sire of the abbot, I detest that which you write,

mais je donnerai ma vie pour que vous puissiez
but I would give my life for that you have the puissance

continuer a ecrire."
to continue to write.

--alleged by Norbert Guterman, editor of 'A Book of French
Quotations', to be from an original Voltaire letter dated
6 Feurier 1771, to M. le Riche. This quote is unconfirmed.

Francois-Marie Arouet born Sunday November 21, 1694 in Paris;
Ven Lib 6z=>2R, Mer Sco 7z=>3R Mar Sun, Nod Sag 8z=>4 Sat 4F,
Moo Cap 9z=>5, Tau Ext S/Asc Gem 1z=>9S, Lil Gem 2z=>10, Jup-
con For-Reg Leo 4z=>12RR; Sun Mer Jup Ura Plu close Mer near.

Whether the witty French philosopher ever wrote this or not, it
is an excellent point, that religious, scientific, intellectual,
philosophical, political, etc. disagreement promotes discussion
and understanding--among those who practice freedom of religion
and freedom of speech responsibly in the public forum, whether
in public classrooms, courtrooms, or through any existing media,
be it the Internet, television, radio, newspapers, ad infinitum.

One notably-recent example in the news-media is Rosie O'Donnell.
The only thing worse than what she's said in public is the fact
that future opportunities for her, to continue spewing her bile,
at least on the major television outlets, are uncertain at best.

Thus her ability to continue expressing her personal free-speech,
as ugly and repulsive as it may be to those who disagree with her,
is being suppressed, which begs the obvious question: Who's next?
Is Rush Limbaugh next on the chopping block? Is freespeech dying
and close to across-the-board death in America, and thus around
the free world? Perhaps Red China is the "model" for the future?

As long as the anonymous remailer network remains on-line, we're
all free to speak our minds, whether Christian, Atheist or what-
ever other religion we happen to personally believe in. However,
as it stands today, Atheists strictly control the curriculum of
America's public schools, the courts, and generally control her
government. But other "fundamentalists" are hardly better since
they want their own draconian-religious illusions to be imposed
as the law of the land. They leave no room for other Christians,
or Atheists, or Jews, or Muslims, or Hindus, or Buddhists, etc.,
who don't necessarily share (all of) their particular religious
beliefs, or convictions, interpretations and misinterpretations,
much less agree on how they define semantics in the first place.

That's why we have the Universal Ten Commandments & Golden Rule,
which is the cornerstone of civilization. Civilized humans tend
to agree with these paramount Commandments, whereas uncivilized
humans tend to be uncivilized--and hold His Sermons in contempt.

Praise the LORD!
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/

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Mik3

2007-05-26, 7:14 pm

Rank Imitator! By 1999 there were at least 5 Danny Min imitators. God only knows how many there are now - who cares. Success brings imitation. That was MIN's inevitable downfall. deJoode and Merli and Dizum's likewise. Now as for governmental
interest
in these characters ........................................

Daniel Joseph Min wrote:

> On Sat, 26 May 2007, adejoode+usenet@dizum.com (Alex de Joode) wrote:
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> LOL! I wonder if these sock-puppet "geniuses" ad nauseam, e.g...
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?as_...rb=q&as_qdr=&am
> ...have ever heard of freedom of speech & freedom of religion?
> They imagine Science is "for Atheists-only". They're dead wrong;
> thus Non-Atheists around the world are reminding Atheists every
> day that all knowledge is not the exclusive purview of Atheists.
>
> Too bad these bigoted Atheists have forgotten this human being,
> not that Voltaire might've actually said this, or written this,
> but one of my favorite (in this case, undocumented) quotations
> is loosely attributed to the world-famous philosopher Voltaire:
>
> "Monsieur l'abbe, je deteste ce que vous ecrivez,
> My sire of the abbot, I detest that which you write,
>
> mais je donnerai ma vie pour que vous puissiez
> but I would give my life for that you have the puissance
>
> continuer a ecrire."
> to continue to write.
>
> --alleged by Norbert Guterman, editor of 'A Book of French
> Quotations', to be from an original Voltaire letter dated
> 6 Feurier 1771, to M. le Riche. This quote is unconfirmed.
>
> Francois-Marie Arouet born Sunday November 21, 1694 in Paris;
> Ven Lib 6z=>2R, Mer Sco 7z=>3R Mar Sun, Nod Sag 8z=>4 Sat 4F,
> Moo Cap 9z=>5, Tau Ext S/Asc Gem 1z=>9S, Lil Gem 2z=>10, Jup-
> con For-Reg Leo 4z=>12RR; Sun Mer Jup Ura Plu close Mer near.
>
> Whether the witty French philosopher ever wrote this or not, it
> is an excellent point, that religious, scientific, intellectual,
> philosophical, political, etc. disagreement promotes discussion
> and understanding--among those who practice freedom of religion
> and freedom of speech responsibly in the public forum, whether
> in public classrooms, courtrooms, or through any existing media,
> be it the Internet, television, radio, newspapers, ad infinitum.
>
> One notably-recent example in the news-media is Rosie O'Donnell.
> The only thing worse than what she's said in public is the fact
> that future opportunities for her, to continue spewing her bile,
> at least on the major television outlets, are uncertain at best.
>
> Thus her ability to continue expressing her personal free-speech,
> as ugly and repulsive as it may be to those who disagree with her,
> is being suppressed, which begs the obvious question: Who's next?
> Is Rush Limbaugh next on the chopping block? Is freespeech dying
> and close to across-the-board death in America, and thus around
> the free world? Perhaps Red China is the "model" for the future?
>
> As long as the anonymous remailer network remains on-line, we're
> all free to speak our minds, whether Christian, Atheist or what-
> ever other religion we happen to personally believe in. However,
> as it stands today, Atheists strictly control the curriculum of
> America's public schools, the courts, and generally control her
> government. But other "fundamentalists" are hardly better since
> they want their own draconian-religious illusions to be imposed
> as the law of the land. They leave no room for other Christians,
> or Atheists, or Jews, or Muslims, or Hindus, or Buddhists, etc.,
> who don't necessarily share (all of) their particular religious
> beliefs, or convictions, interpretations and misinterpretations,
> much less agree on how they define semantics in the first place.
>
> That's why we have the Universal Ten Commandments & Golden Rule,
> which is the cornerstone of civilization. Civilized humans tend
> to agree with these paramount Commandments, whereas uncivilized
> humans tend to be uncivilized--and hold His Sermons in contempt.
>
> Praise the LORD!
> Daniel Joseph Min
> http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
>
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Starlord

2007-05-26, 7:14 pm

Has nothing to do with astronomy and is only good for coverying the floors
of the Cyber Black Hole.

--
The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond
Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
Sidewalk Astronomy
www.sidewalkastronomy.info
AD World
http://www.adworld.netfirms.com/

"Mik3" <michael@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:46588B0C.36762FCC@mchsi.com...
> Rank Imitator! By 1999 there were at least 5 Danny Min imitators. God only
> knows how many there are now - who cares. Success brings imitation. That
> was MIN's inevitable downfall. deJoode and Merli and Dizum's likewise. Now
> as for governmental
> interest
> in these characters ........................................
>
>
>
> Daniel Joseph Min wrote:
>
>

Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer

2007-05-26, 7:14 pm

In article <46588B0C.36762FCC@mchsi.com>
Mik3 <michael@mchsi.com> wrote:
>
> That was MIN's inevitable downfall. deJoode and Merli and Dizum's likewise.

How exactly has Alex DeJoode or Dizum had a downfall? Dizum is still
up, still operational, with no downfall in sight.

Borked Pseudo Mailed

2007-05-26, 7:14 pm

About "Starlord" Dennis Bishop

http://tinyurl.com/ypt5fn

Borked Pseudo Mailed

2007-05-26, 7:14 pm

anonymous@remailer.cyberiade.it (Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer) wrote:
>In article <46588B0C.36762FCC@mchsi.com>
>Mik3 <michael@mchsi.com> wrote:
>
>How exactly has Alex DeJoode or Dizum had a downfall? Dizum is still
>up, still operational, with no downfall in sight.
>

And does Minnie Mouse keep hammering away, if he had met his
Waterloo?

"Mik3" = Divide by Zero Error. System Failure. :p

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