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How and why do these people get caught?

George Orwell

2007-07-11, 7:14 pm

Recently I read an article involving the breakup of a child porno
ring based in the UK with tenticles in this country.

Honestly, I do not understand how it is that these people get
caught. With chained remailers, ephemeral keys, Tor, and PGP, how do
these people get caught? With use of the above, a picture leaving
your computer could be encrypted 24+ layers deep, what is it that
these people are doing or not doing that is leading th their capture?
Does anyone know?

Even chat rooms can be ported over Tor, right? So, I just don't see
why it happens.

Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer

2007-07-12, 1:15 am

George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote:
> Recently I read an article involving the breakup of a child porno
>ring based in the UK with tenticles in this country.
>
> Honestly, I do not understand how it is that these people get
>caught. With chained remailers, ephemeral keys, Tor, and PGP, how do
>these people get caught? With use of the above, a picture leaving
>your computer could be encrypted 24+ layers deep, what is it that
>these people are doing or not doing that is leading th their capture?
> Does anyone know?
>
> Even chat rooms can be ported over Tor, right? So, I just don't see
>why it happens.

Good, because you don't need to know. The scumbags who make child pornography
should get the death penalty . . . a police-issue 9mm right between the eyes!

Anonymous

2007-07-12, 1:15 am

In article < b2c2a3d0009ba0fc76faa4c56e80826c@mixmast
er.it>
George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote:
>
> Recently I read an article involving the breakup of a child porno
> ring based in the UK with tenticles in this country.
>
> Honestly, I do not understand how it is that these people get
> caught. With chained remailers, ephemeral keys, Tor, and PGP, how do
> these people get caught? With use of the above, a picture leaving
> your computer could be encrypted 24+ layers deep, what is it that
> these people are doing or not doing that is leading th their capture?
> Does anyone know?
>
> Even chat rooms can be ported over Tor, right? So, I just don't see
> why it happens.

It all boils down to who they are. They're malformed. Regardless of the
tools at their disposal, they live in a world of delusion in which they are
"right" and their selfishness leads them to make stupid decisions. They
don't believe they'll ever get caught just as much as they do believe that
they're normal. Witness how they rationalize their perversion by calling
it "art" or that child molestation is OK because monkeys or primitive
societies do it.

They're XXXXed up and they will be caught because of how they are, not how
they do it.

nospamatall

2007-07-12, 1:15 am

George Orwell wrote:
> Recently I read an article involving the breakup of a child porno
> ring based in the UK with tenticles in this country.
>
> Honestly, I do not understand how it is that these people get
> caught. With chained remailers, ephemeral keys, Tor, and PGP, how do
> these people get caught? With use of the above, a picture leaving
> your computer could be encrypted 24+ layers deep, what is it that
> these people are doing or not doing that is leading th their capture?
> Does anyone know?
>
> Even chat rooms can be ported over Tor, right? So, I just don't see
> why it happens.
>

I think it is mostly not the source that gets caught, like with drugs.
The ones who get caught are not security experts and can't afford to
hire them either. These are the users. We hear a lot about it, because
the 'authorities' want everyone to think progress is being made.

I don't think child porn is really a relevant thing in a privacy
newsgroup; privacy isn't about being able to break the law (or do shitty
things) without anyone knowing. What would be relevant is how things
like this are being used as an excuse to destroy privacy. The more this
is discussed in privacy fora, the more it becomes associated with
privacy wrongly.

There are many types of crime (possibly all of them) where privacy is an
element of not getting caught; why does this one come up so often in
comparison to the others? (ok I just notived the anon-server cross-post,
and maybe in that case the real-world ones could be discounted, but
still...)

Andy

Borked Pseudo Mailed

2007-07-12, 1:15 am

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007, George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote:
> Recently I read an article involving the breakup of a child porno
>ring based in the UK with tenticles in this country.
>
> Honestly, I do not understand how it is that these people get
>caught. With chained remailers, ephemeral keys, Tor, and PGP, how do
>these people get caught? With use of the above, a picture leaving
>your computer could be encrypted 24+ layers deep, what is it that
>these people are doing or not doing that is leading th their capture?
> Does anyone know?
>
> Even chat rooms can be ported over Tor, right? So, I just don't see
>why it happens.

They can't break the encryption. The people who were caught obviously
trusted the wrong people, let the wrong people in to their little group.
Undercover cops and such.

Anon

2007-07-12, 1:15 am

George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote in
news:b2c2a3d0009ba0fc76faa4c56e80826c@mi
xmaster.it:

> Recently I read an article involving the breakup of a child porno
> ring based in the UK with tenticles in this country.
>
> Honestly, I do not understand how it is that these people get
> caught. With chained remailers, ephemeral keys, Tor, and PGP, how do
> these people get caught? With use of the above, a picture leaving
> your computer could be encrypted 24+ layers deep, what is it that
> these people are doing or not doing that is leading th their capture?
> Does anyone know?
>
> Even chat rooms can be ported over Tor, right? So, I just don't
> see
> why it happens.
>

Because they don't use such things. Read the articles. The police
find the porno on their computers, so you know they aren't using
encryption. They are traceable, and appear to know who each other
are, so they aren't using remailers or TOR.

The protection they do use is very limited apparently. Kind of like
soap and water to wash off the AIDS virus.

Oh, and the guy using the remailer (Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer
<anonymous@remailer.cyberiade.it> ) is a notorious child pornographer.

He's got a great sense of humor, too.

Anon

Borked Pseudo Mailed

2007-07-12, 7:13 am

In article < b2c2a3d0009ba0fc76faa4c56e80826c@mixmast
er.it>, George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote:

> Recently I read an article involving the breakup of a child porno
> ring based in the UK with tenticles in this country.
>
> Honestly, I do not understand how it is that these people get
> caught. With chained remailers, ephemeral keys, Tor, and PGP, how do
> these people get caught? With use of the above, a picture leaving
> your computer could be encrypted 24+ layers deep, what is it that
> these people are doing or not doing that is leading th their capture?
> Does anyone know?
>
> Even chat rooms can be ported over Tor, right? So, I just don't see
> why it happens.
>

The people getting caught aren't using any of the technologies you mention.

The people getting caught pay for CP with credit cards, they think emptying the recycle bin deletes files, they think the computer repairman won't notice the picture & movies on their HD, etc....

In other words, the people getting caught are stupid.

Anonymous Sender

2007-07-12, 7:13 am

Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote:

> George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote:
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>
> Good, because you don't need to know. The scumbags who make child
> pornography
> should get the death penalty . . . a police-issue 9mm right between the
> eyes!

Bah! 9's are for girlie-men. Better would be a .45, 44 Magnum, or even
the trusty old .357 Glasser Safety Slug. Or for extra laughs take'm out
with a Barrett .50BMG to the lungs from a few hundred yards away as they
bent down for a drink of water.

Just imagine the surprised look on their faces. ;-)

Thomas J. Boschloo

2007-07-12, 7:13 am

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> Recently I read an article involving the breakup of a child porno
> ring based in the UK with tenticles in this country.
>
> Honestly, I do not understand how it is that these people get
> caught. With chained remailers, ephemeral keys, Tor, and PGP, how do
> these people get caught? With use of the above, a picture leaving
> your computer could be encrypted 24+ layers deep, what is it that
> these people are doing or not doing that is leading th their capture?
> Does anyone know?
>
> Even chat rooms can be ported over Tor, right? So, I just don't see
> why it happens.

Because they can't resist the temptation and become paying members of
teen sites. Creditcards don't provide good anonimity you know..

What you should be worried about is childporn rings in which new
pictures are currency. Supply and demand, supply and demand :-(

Thomas
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Non scrivetemi

2007-07-12, 1:13 pm

George Orwell wrote:

> Recently I read an article involving the breakup of a child porno ring
> based in the UK with tenticles in this country.
>
> Honestly, I do not understand how it is that these people get
> caught. With chained remailers, ephemeral keys, Tor, and PGP, how do
> these people get caught? With use of the above, a picture leaving your
> computer could be encrypted 24+ layers deep, what is it that these
> people are doing or not doing that is leading th their capture?
> Does anyone know?

Pedophiles are dumb as mushrooms. They get caught because they do shit so
stupid they can't help but get caught. Look at the stupid "traveller"
pedophile right here in this group. And he's so stupid he's still trying
to DENY he got caught.

I have a sneaking suspicion Chris Hanson is about to branch out. The good
folk of http://www.perverted-justice.org have been notified about this
pedophile "anonymity service", as well as a group of black hats who take
much pride in owning these sick XXXXers and exposing them in public.

Might be a month, might be a year, but these pricks are relentless. Don't
be surprised to see a news flash about privacy.lie being nailed some day.
They like you to think they're immune, but they're not.

>
> Even chat rooms can be ported over Tor, right? So, I just don't
see
> why it happens.

You think a pedophile has the brains to use Tor properly?

Get real. Even if they DID manage to set the software up they'd get
busted because they can't help but kick their own XXX. Like I said, look
at teh stupid pedophile "traveller" and how he outed himself and his
entire snake oil service. Even remailers can't help the dimwit. Just
plain old stupid, and they're all the same. Every single one of the
disgusting XXXXs.

traveller 66

2007-07-12, 1:13 pm

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> George Orwell wrote:
>
>
> Pedophiles are dumb as mushrooms. They get caught because they do shit so
> stupid they can't help but get caught. Look at the stupid "traveller"

I hope YOU get caught, but with the way you use the re-mailers it will
unfortunately be a hard go for them to get you. Degenerated like you who
can manipulate re-mailers etc, are the reason we may very well eventually
loose anonymity on the internet. Wishing you a free ride in a police car
soon. Yours.

> pedophile right here in this group. And he's so stupid he's still trying
> to DENY he got caught.
>
> I have a sneaking suspicion Chris Hanson is about to branch out. The good
> folk of http://www.perverted-justice.org have been notified about this
> pedophile "anonymity service", as well as a group of black hats who take
> much pride in owning these sick XXXXers and exposing them in public.
>
> Might be a month, might be a year, but these pricks are relentless. Don't
> be surprised to see a news flash about privacy.lie being nailed some day.
> They like you to think they're immune, but they're not.
>
> see
>
> You think a pedophile has the brains to use Tor properly?
>
> Get real. Even if they DID manage to set the software up they'd get
> busted because they can't help but kick their own XXX. Like I said, look
> at teh stupid pedophile "traveller" and how he outed himself and his
> entire snake oil service. Even remailers can't help the dimwit. Just
> plain old stupid, and they're all the same. Every single one of the
> disgusting XXXXs.

Anonymous

2007-07-12, 1:13 pm

In article <k2bbewjq79wb.1c4oamvytpwl4$.dlg@40tude.net>
traveller 66 <noreply@nym.alias.net> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:41:51 +0200 (CEST), Non scrivetemi wrote:
>
ws-x2!mail2news[vbcol=seagreen]
mation about anonymity, see https://www.winstonsmith.info/pws or https://e-privacy.firenze.linux.it.[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> I hope YOU get caught, but with the way you use the re-mailers it will
> unfortunately be a hard go for them to get you. Degenerated like you who
> can manipulate re-mailers etc, are the reason we may very well eventually
> loose anonymity on the internet. Wishing you a free ride in a police car
> soon. Yours.
>

Yawn.

Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer

2007-07-12, 7:13 pm

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007, traveller 66 <noreply@nym.alias.net> wrote:
>On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:41:51 +0200 (CEST), Non scrivetemi wrote:
>
>
>I hope YOU get caught, but with the way you use the re-mailers it will
>unfortunately be a hard go for them to get you. Degenerated like you who
>can manipulate re-mailers etc, are the reason we may very well eventually
>loose anonymity on the internet. Wishing you a free ride in a police car
>soon. Yours.
>
It sounds like you are defending criminal child pornographers, and the
availability of illegal kiddie porn, and criminal pedophiles, and criminal
child abuse in general. If that's the case, then sooner or later, law
enforcement is gonna getcha, scumbag.

George Orwell

2007-07-12, 7:13 pm

Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007, traveller 66 <noreply@nym.alias.net> wrote:
newshosti[vbcol=seagreen]
feeder.news-s[vbcol=seagreen]
news.dizum.com!sewer-[vbcol=seagreen]
> It sounds like you are defending criminal child pornographers, and the
> availability of illegal kiddie porn, and criminal pedophiles, and
> criminal child abuse in general. If that's the case, then sooner or
> later, law enforcement is gonna getcha, scumbag.

What it sounds like is the poor pathetic bastard is grasping at any straw
he can see. He was getting his slimy XXX handed to him long before the
pervert he tried to "out" showed up, but since that person had some
quality this demented pedophile thinks he can attack all of a sudden
everyone is that pervert. Forget for a minute the fact that getting a
hardon for road kill isn't nearly as disgusting as raping babies, nor is
it illegal.

It's all the poor bastard has left. That, and his childish Gielda
interpositions. In the face of all the evidence against him, all the
links, all the stupid shit he's done to demolish his own reputation and
the reputation of his business, the very best thing he can come up with
are "blah", and "blah". Nothing. No substance, no cites, nothing
intelligent at all.

His detractors, on the other hand, have an entire arsenal of ammunition
with which to amuse themselves. Old cites, new cites, and cites the sick
bastard thought he'd buried away where nobody would see them again so
well that he spent days and days demanding that someone produce them.

Then someone did. <laugh>

The only thing that puzzles me is why this pervert is still around? How
much fun can it be? Is he really that sick in the head? I can't see how
anyone that just resembled normal would subject themselves to the beating
this dumbfuk subjects himself to over, and over, and over, and over,
and......... <sigh>

Admin

2007-07-12, 7:13 pm

In article < d9b1ae5e85dc8c478e677261f7cb647e@mixmast
er.it>
George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote:
>
> Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote:
>
> newshosti
> feeder.news-s
> news.dizum.com!sewer-
>
> What it sounds like is the poor pathetic bastard is grasping at any straw
> he can see. He was getting his slimy XXX handed to him long before the
> pervert he tried to "out" showed up, but since that person had some
> quality this demented pedophile thinks he can attack all of a sudden
> everyone is that pervert. Forget for a minute the fact that getting a
> hardon for road kill isn't nearly as disgusting as raping babies, nor is
> it illegal.
>
> It's all the poor bastard has left. That, and his childish Gielda
> interpositions. In the face of all the evidence against him, all the
> links, all the stupid shit he's done to demolish his own reputation and
> the reputation of his business, the very best thing he can come up with
> are "blah", and "blah". Nothing. No substance, no cites, nothing
> intelligent at all.
>
> His detractors, on the other hand, have an entire arsenal of ammunition
> with which to amuse themselves. Old cites, new cites, and cites the sick
> bastard thought he'd buried away where nobody would see them again so
> well that he spent days and days demanding that someone produce them.
>
> Then someone did. <laugh>
>
> The only thing that puzzles me is why this pervert is still around? How
> much fun can it be? Is he really that sick in the head? I can't see how
> anyone that just resembled normal would subject themselves to the beating
> this dumbfuk subjects himself to over, and over, and over, and over,
> and......... <sigh>

Nobody gives a shite.

George Orwell

2007-07-13, 1:14 am

Non scrivetemi wrote:

> George Orwell wrote:
>
>
> Pedophiles are dumb as mushrooms. They get caught because they do shit
> so stupid they can't help but get caught. Look at the stupid "traveller"
> pedophile right here in this group. And he's so stupid he's still trying
> to DENY he got caught.

I think perverts like this are so sick in the head they've convinced
themselves they're not doing anything wrong. Traveler probably believes
he's doing the right thing acting the way he's acting. It's sad, and
their world usually comes crashing down around their ears when the
handcuffs go on, but if you've watched any of the documentaries of these
sick dregs of humanity they all do pretty much the same thing when caught.

> I have a sneaking suspicion Chris Hanson is about to branch out. The
> good folk of http://www.perverted-justice.org have been notified about
> this pedophile "anonymity service", as well as a group of black hats who
> take much pride in owning these sick XXXXers and exposing them in
> public.
>
> Might be a month, might be a year, but these pricks are relentless.
> Don't be surprised to see a news flash about privacy.lie being nailed
> some day. They like you to think they're immune, but they're not.
>
>
> see
>
> You think a pedophile has the brains to use Tor properly?
>
> Get real. Even if they DID manage to set the software up they'd get
> busted because they can't help but kick their own XXX. Like I said, look
> at teh stupid pedophile "traveller" and how he outed himself and his
> entire snake oil service. Even remailers can't help the dimwit. Just
> plain old stupid, and they're all the same. Every single one of the
> disgusting XXXXs.

Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer

2007-07-13, 1:14 am

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007, George Orwell <nobody@mixmaster.it> wrote:
>Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer wrote:
>
>newshosti
>feeder.news-s
>news.dizum.com!sewer-
>
>What it sounds like is the poor pathetic bastard is grasping at any straw
>he can see. He was getting his slimy XXX handed to him long before the
>pervert he tried to "out" showed up, but since that person had some
>quality this demented pedophile thinks he can attack all of a sudden
>everyone is that pervert. Forget for a minute the fact that getting a
>hardon for road kill isn't nearly as disgusting as raping babies, nor is
>it illegal.
>
>It's all the poor bastard has left. That, and his childish Gielda
>interpositions. In the face of all the evidence against him, all the
>links, all the stupid shit he's done to demolish his own reputation and
>the reputation of his business, the very best thing he can come up with
>are "blah", and "blah". Nothing. No substance, no cites, nothing
>intelligent at all.
>
>His detractors, on the other hand, have an entire arsenal of ammunition
>with which to amuse themselves. Old cites, new cites, and cites the sick
>bastard thought he'd buried away where nobody would see them again so
>well that he spent days and days demanding that someone produce them.
>
>Then someone did. <laugh>
>
>The only thing that puzzles me is why this pervert is still around? How
>much fun can it be? Is he really that sick in the head? I can't see how
>anyone that just resembled normal would subject themselves to the beating
>this dumbfuk subjects himself to over, and over, and over, and over,
>and......... <sigh>

I'm not that familiar with the case. But if terrorism kicks up a few
notches in the UK, US, and elsewhere, you got to figure that the tolerance
levels for criminal child pornographers, criminal pedophiles, and other
criminal child abusing scumbags is going to plummet to zero. They should
make it an automatic death penalty on the first offense. Dead criminal
child abusers cannot abuse any more children. They cannot escape from
prison. Their lawyers cannot get them off on technicalities. And soft
judges cannot give them lenient sentences.

traveller 66

2007-07-13, 1:14 am

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 02:31:36 +0200 (CEST), George Orwell wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Non scrivetemi wrote:
>
>
> I think perverts like this are so sick in the head they've convinced
> themselves they're not doing anything wrong. Traveler probably believes
> he's doing the right thing acting the way he's acting. It's sad, and
> their world usually comes crashing down around their ears when the
> handcuffs go on, but if you've watched any of the documentaries of these
> sick dregs of humanity they all do pretty much the same thing when caught.
>

Get a life and stop talking to yourself creep.

Anonymous Sender

2007-07-13, 1:14 am

traveller 66 wrote:

"Yeah, I've forgotten to change nics on my Xnews."

ROTFLMAO!

Usenet2007@THE-DOMAIN-IN.SIG

2007-07-13, 7:13 am

In article < b2c2a3d0009ba0fc76faa4c56e80826c@mixmast
er.it>,
nobody@mixmaster.it says...
> Recently I read an article involving the breakup of a child porno
> ring based in the UK with tenticles in this country.
>
> Honestly, I do not understand how it is that these people get
> caught. With chained remailers, ephemeral keys, Tor, and PGP, how do
> these people get caught? With use of the above, a picture leaving
> your computer could be encrypted 24+ layers deep, what is it that
> these people are doing or not doing that is leading th their capture?
> Does anyone know?
>
> Even chat rooms can be ported over Tor, right? So, I just don't see
> why it happens.

Some of the perps are caught receiving physical merchandise, like
DVDs, by snail-mail. Others are caught from using their real
credit cards for Web site subscriptions.

Producing child pr0n requires molesting real children, which can
result in getting caught. Like if some kid reports an offer of
pot and booze to go to a particular guy's house to pose for
pictures.

Advertising in any way has a two-way vulnerability. The sellers
will be contacted by undercover cops. And some ads are posted by
cop sting operations.

With free trading, there are undercover cops looking to
participate on Usenet, IRC, Web forums, and email lists.

When one perp gets busted, that person's contact list is then
used to solicit paid transactions or free trading.

I once read a claim that, in the late 80s, America's biggest
sender of child pr0n was the US Postal Inspection Service.

Many of the people producing that filth are trying to make money.
Which creates vulnerability. Especially when done in a
semi-traceable electronic fashion. Even cash is vulnerable,
since the customers need an address for mailing.

The people buying or freely trading that filth are, by
definition, exercising some very clouded thinking. Collecting
child pr0n is a totally irrational crime - compulsive and
desperate. And that leads to generally stupid mistakes. And,
when a careless consumer is busted, the cops may now have
information on the suppliers. P.O. boxes, PayPal accounts,
credit card merchant accounts, IRC channels and handles, email
addresses, etc, etc.

Personally, I don't have any problem with pedophiles getting
caught. They deserve it.

Although, of course, there are plenty of decent people who need
protection, like political dissidents in oppressive countries.
And who should think carefully about the above points.

--
Want Privacy?
http://www.MinistryOfPrivacy.com/

Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer

2007-07-13, 7:13 am

traveller 66 wrote:

...nobody cares what child molesters say.

Message-ID: <Xns98DF8560483E1Eggplant@63.218.45.252>

"Yeah, I've forgotten to change nics on my Xnews."

Message-ID: <Xns980C4455F4457Eggplant@66.250.146.167>

"I confessed to enjoying child erotic art."

"No babies in my posts. Young and adolescent girls showing off for the
camera knowing exactly what they're doing are not babies."

Message-ID: <Xns98CB6BDA7BE32Eggplant@63.218.45.252>

"As for your insult, most know my prefered age for pics to view are
budding 12 - 14 year olds."

Anonymous Sender

2007-07-13, 7:13 am

Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer

2007-07-13, 1:13 pm

traveller 66 wrote:

>
> I hope YOU get caught, but with the way you use the re-mailers it will
> unfortunately be a hard go for them to get you.

In contrast to snake oil "anonymity" services like Privacy.LIE that can
be compromised with a phone call from the right person, if it takes that
much considering what a complete joke the way it's maintained has turned
out to be.

Which is why you do most of your trolling from behind remailers even
though you spend a lot of your time lying about how anonymous your snake
oil paedophile service is.

Or to put it another way, if you have to be anonymous to get there, what
are you paying them for? :-)

> Degenerated like you who

WTF are you babbling about? You always seem to get this on line version
of a stutter when you're backed into a corner. Happens quite a bit
actually. Same with the headers you quoted. They're blatant signs of pure
desperation.

I'm sure someone would feel sorry for your disgusting pedophile XXX if
you deserved it.

> can manipulate re-mailers etc, are the reason we may very well
> eventually loose anonymity on the internet. Wishing you a free ride in a
> police car soon. Yours.

Have any luck yet, coming up with some bullshit story to prop up your
"headers don't match up" bullshit there pedophile?

There's only one pervert here since the Tor node you outed left (LOL!),
and that's the child molester calling himself Adem/traveller/Eggplant/
Adminus/admins/amadeus/blackhat and about 2 dozen other names.

You got caught big time, admitted it, and then started trying to deny it
until someone dredged up your messages from some place not Google. Now
you're stuck playing your juvenile little "no YOU are" games every time
someone spanks you with the truth of your sick existence.

Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer

2007-07-13, 1:13 pm

Admin wrote:

> Nobody gives a shite.

You quoted ~90 lines just to say you don't care about any of it?

XXXXin' retard.

George Orwell

2007-07-13, 1:13 pm

George Orwell

2007-07-13, 1:13 pm

traveller 66 wrote:

Um, can you explain how these headers don't match up?

Didn't think so. *laugh*

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From: Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com>
Newsgroups: alt.privacy
Subject: Any Phone Safe?
References:
X-No-Archive: Yes
Message-ID: <b61949089c833bede77f7815a32964d7@dizum.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 01:30:08 +0100 (CET)
Mail-To-News-Contact: a...@dizum.com
Organization: mail2n...@dizum.com

Other than having crypto phones on each end what's the safest, most
anonymous phone you can own nowadays? Is cell safer than landline? Why or
why not. Anyone who believes that the government only listens to
terrorists I think is really taking a big risk especially if they are on
Bush's black list (I am sure he has one).

-------------------------

Newsgroups: alt.privacy
Subject: Re: Any Phone Safe?
From: "Eggplant©" <vegetab...@theguarden.com>
References: <b61949089c833bede77f7815a32964d7@dizum.com>
Organization: 60's Burnout
Message-ID: <Xns98D83ADFDB7DCEggplant@63.218.45.252>
User-Agent: Xnews/5.03.24
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Date: 15 Feb 2007 13:46:37 GMT
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Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote in
news:b61949089c833bede77f7815a32964d7@di
zum.com:A vortex formed within the
smokey haze of my alledged mind and became this:

> Other than having crypto phones on each end what's the safest, most
> anonymous phone you can own nowadays? Is cell safer than landline? Why or
> why not. Anyone who believes that the government only listens to
> terrorists I think is really taking a big risk especially if they are on
> Bush's black list (I am sure he has one).

The problem with cell phones is the "implied consent" laws. You are
knowingly using a portable transmitter/reciever. Anything done on a cell
phone can be used in court without any privacy protection laws that would
apply to landlines. No warrant necessary because it was sent openly over
the airwaves.

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From: traveler 66 <nore...@nym.alias.net>
Subject: Re: Any Phone Safe?
Newsgroups: alt.privacy
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<Xns98D83ADFDB7DCEggpl...@63.218.45.252>
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 23:12:39 -0800
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On 15 Feb 2007 13:46:37 GMT, Eggplant© wrote:

> Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote in
> news:b61949089c833bede77f7815a32964d7@di
zum.com:A vortex formed within the
> smokey haze of my alledged mind and became this:

[vbcol=seagreen]
> The problem with cell phones is the "implied consent" laws. You are
> knowingly using a portable transmitter/reciever. Anything done on a cell
> phone can be used in court without any privacy protection laws that would
> apply to landlines. No warrant necessary because it was sent openly over
> the airwaves.

Why don't you post your address here, I'll look up the law in your area for
you.

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From: Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com>
Subject: Re: Any Phone Safe?
Newsgroups: alt.privacy
References: <b61949089c833bede77f7815a3296...@dizum.com>
<Xns98D83ADFDB7DCEggpl...@63.218.45.252>
<gzxeevjdr3jk.1udn2x095zaia$....@40tude.net>
Message-ID: <1af100c765b949c399bfc6d598ce0...@dizum.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 14:00:04 +0100 (CET)
Mail-To-News-Contact: a...@dizum.com
Organization: mail2n...@dizum.com

traveler 66 wrote:
> On 15 Feb 2007 13:46:37 GMT, Eggplant=C2=A9 wrote:
>=20
>=20
> Why don't you post your address here, I'll look up the law in your
> area for you.

Do you mean "look up" as in the way you ignore and deny the laws in all
the cheap hosting privacy SHIT HOLES where you rent server space just
so you can swindle people with your off-shore lies?

Slimy asslickers like you offering legal research assistance is BEYOND
ironic. How many times have you tried to tell us local laws and MLATS
don't matter now? A couple dozen?=20

How's it feel to have your bullshit come back to haunt you? Hmmmmm?

LOL!

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Newsgroups: alt.privacy
Subject: Re: Any Phone Safe?
From: "Eggplant©" <vegetab...@theguarden.com>
References: <b61949089c833bede77f7815a3296...@dizum.com>
<Xns98D83ADFDB7DCEggpl...@63.218.45.252>
<gzxeevjdr3jk.1udn2x095zaia$....@40tude.net>
<1af100c765b949c399bfc6d598ce0...@dizum.com>
Organization: 60's Burnout
Message-ID: <Xns98DF50B8F10BAEggpl...@63.218.45.254>
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X-No-Archive: yes
Date: 22 Feb 2007 16:46:13 GMT
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Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote in
news:1af100c765b949c399bfc6d598ce0b0e@di
zum.com:A vortex formed within
the smokey haze of my alledged mind and became this:

> traveler 66 wrote:

20[vbcol=seagreen]
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Do you mean "look up" as in the way you ignore and deny the laws in all
> the cheap hosting privacy SHIT HOLES where you rent server space just
> so you can swindle people with your off-shore lies?

> Slimy asslickers like you offering legal research assistance is BEYOND
> ironic. How many times have you tried to tell us local laws and MLATS
> don't matter now? A couple dozen?=20

> How's it feel to have your bullshit come back to haunt you? Hmmmmm?

> LOL!

WTF are you talking about (in your further attempts to confuse issues).

I don't have a server, nor am I connected to anyone who does beyond being
a very satified customer with prili. Nothing has come back to haunt me at
all. Who ever said the laws don't matter? Having to put words in peoples
mouths to try to look wise again I see. When do you offer anything to
help anyone? You're just a troll.

------------------------------------

From: Anonyma <anon-boun...@deuxpi.ca>
X-Anonymous: yes
X-Anon-Help: <http://www.deuxpi.ca/>
<mailto:deuxpi-ad...@deuxpi.ca>
Subject: Re: Any Phone Safe?
Newsgroups: alt.privacy
References: <b61949089c833bede77f7815a3296...@dizum.com>
<Xns98D83ADFDB7DCEggpl...@63.218.45.252>
<gzxeevjdr3jk.1udn2x095zaia$....@40tude.net>
<1af100c765b949c399bfc6d598ce0...@dizum.com>
<Xns98DF50B8F10BAEggpl...@63.218.45.254>
Message-ID: <29162e230034491ac10bfc386356a...@deuxpi.ca>
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:23:00 -0500 (EST)
Mail-To-News-Contact: a...@dizum.com
Organization: mail2n...@dizum.com

Eggplant=C2=A9 wrote:
> Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote in=20
> news:1af100c765b949c399bfc6d598ce0b0e@di
zum.com:A vortex formed
> within the smokey haze of my alledged mind and became this:
>=20

<CLIP>
[vbcol=seagreen]
> WTF are you talking about (in your further attempts to confuse
> issues).
>=20
> I don't have a server, nor am I connected to anyone who does beyond

ROTFLMAO!!!!!

Forget to change socks there, asslicker?

So it turns out the "traveler" puppet is also a pedoXXXX pervert called
Eggfart. That explains a lot. You were always "both" just a couple of
XXXXtarded asslickers. It's good to know Privacy.LIE and its twin
sister scam services have such a distinguished customer base.

Owned by perverted racists..... patronized by racist perverts.=20

LOL! Outstanding. Thank you. LOL!!

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Newsgroups: alt.privacy
Subject: Re: Any Phone Safe?
From: "Eggplant©" <vegetab...@theguarden.com>
References: <b61949089c833bede77f7815a3296...@dizum.com>
<Xns98D83ADFDB7DCEggpl...@63.218.45.252>
<gzxeevjdr3jk.1udn2x095zaia$....@40tude.net>
<1af100c765b949c399bfc6d598ce0...@dizum.com>
<Xns98DF50B8F10BAEggpl...@63.218.45.254>
<29162e230034491ac10bfc386356a...@deuxpi.ca>
Organization: 60's Burnout
Message-ID: <Xns98DF8560483E1Eggpl...@63.218.45.252>
User-Agent: Xnews/5.03.24
X-No-Archive: yes
Date: 22 Feb 2007 21:57:02 GMT
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Anonyma <anon-boun...@deuxpi.ca> wrote in
news:29162e230034491ac10bfc386356a94d@de
uxpi.ca:A vortex formed within
the smokey haze of my alledged mind and became this:

> Eggplant=C2=A9 wrote:

[vbcol=seagreen]
> <CLIP>

[vbcol=seagreen]
> ROTFLMAO!!!!!

> Forget to change socks there, asslicker?

> So it turns out the "traveler" puppet is also a pedoXXXX pervert called
> Eggfart. That explains a lot. You were always "both" just a couple of
> XXXXtarded asslickers. It's good to know Privacy.LIE and its twin
> sister scam services have such a distinguished customer base.

> Owned by perverted racists..... patronized by racist perverts.=20

> LOL! Outstanding. Thank you. LOL!!

Boy are you a moron. I'd use remailers for everything and stay anonymous
if I were going to be 2 people. Yeah, I've forgotten to change nics on my
Xnews. But I don't use remailers. You're way off base as usual.

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Anonymous Remailer (austria)

2007-07-13, 1:13 pm

traveller 66 wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:41:51 +0200 (CEST), Non scrivetemi wrote:
>
ail2news[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> I hope YOU get caught,

You mean like you already have been caught. And your snake oil service too?

I doubt anyone but you is that dumb to be real honest....

but with the way you use the re-mailers it will[vbcol=seagreen]
> unfortunately be a hard go for them to get you. Degenerated like you who
> can manipulate re-mailers etc, are the reason we may very well
> eventually loose anonymity on the internet. Wishing you a free ride in a
> police car soon. Yours.
>
>

Ari

2007-07-13, 1:13 pm

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 09:49:09 -0800, traveller 66 wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> I hope YOU get caught, but with the way you use the re-mailers it will
> unfortunately be a hard go for them to get you. Degenerated like you who
> can manipulate re-mailers etc, are the reason we may very well eventually
> loose anonymity on the internet. Wishing you a free ride in a police car
> soon. Yours.

You gotta larf at this creep.