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What do I wrong with mixmaster, I don't get mails :( ?
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| anansi 2007-07-15, 7:14 pm |
| Hi,
I was trying to use mixmaster on Ubuntu Feisty Fawn today but I don't
get any email I updated it with sudo mixmaster-update
mixmaster-update --verbose and started it with mixmaster. Then m) for
mail. to: kazaam@oleco.net (my own mailadress) and I choosed two
chain-links for this test:
c)hain: borked,cyberiad (reliability: 100.00%)
r)edundancy: 1 copies
d)estination: kazaam@oleco.net
s)ubject: test
pgp encry)ption: no
then I did e)dit and wrote something and closed this again with :quit!.
Now I had one message in the pool and made s)end message from pool and
it outputs: done.
But I don't get no mail to kazaam@oleco.net 
What goes wrong and how can I check what goes wrong?
--
greets
one must still have chaos in oneself to be able to
give birth to a dancing star
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| Dale Kelly 2007-07-15, 7:14 pm |
| On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:18:53 +0200, anansi wrote:
> then I did e)dit and wrote something and closed this again with :quit!
you need to close with :wq , not just quit
anyway, I am having problems with the Feisty mixmaster too
--
Dale http://www.vedantasite.org
see website for real email address
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| Anonymous 2007-07-15, 7:14 pm |
| anansi wrote:
> Hi,
> I was trying to use mixmaster on Ubuntu Feisty Fawn today but I don't
> get any email I updated it with sudo mixmaster-update
> mixmaster-update --verbose and started it with mixmaster. Then m) for
> mail. to: kazaam@oleco.net (my own mailadress) and I choosed two
> chain-links for this test:
>
> c)hain: borked,cyberiad (reliability: 100.00%)
> r)edundancy: 1 copies
>
> d)estination: kazaam@oleco.net
> s)ubject: test
>
> pgp encry)ption: no
>
> then I did e)dit and wrote something and closed this again with :quit!.
>
> Now I had one message in the pool and made s)end message from pool and
> it outputs: done.
>
> But I don't get no mail to kazaam@oleco.net 
>
> What goes wrong and how can I check what goes wrong?
There's the possibility that you mail simply hasn't arrived yet. Remailer
messages aren't "instantaneous" like normal mail messages are. How long
has it been?
You should also send more than one copy, and let Mixmaster choose your
remailers. A single copy may have been lost or got hung up somewhere.
If I'm not mistaken, Feisty installs the Exim "light" mail transport
agent by default. It may be that either you have no "sendmail" link (what
Mixmaster uses by default to deliver mail), that Exim is not configured
to deliver mail to local addresses only, or that because you're on a
standard user ISP account some mail servers won't accept mail from you
directly.
Open a terminal and read the 'man mixmaster' page. You'll see a setting
for "SMTPRELAY". The first thing I'd try is adding "SMTPRELAY
my.isp.mail.server" to your global mix.cfg in /etc/mixmaster and see if
it doesn't solve the problem. Note the settings for things like
SMTPUSERNAME and such, you may need to set those if your mail server
requires authentication.
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| Anonymous 2007-07-15, 7:14 pm |
| On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:18:53 +0200
anansi <kazaam@oleco.net> wrote:
> Hi, I was trying to use mixmaster on Ubuntu Feisty Fawn today but I don't get
> any email I updated it with sudo mixmaster-update mixmaster-update
> --verbose and started it with mixmaster. Then m) for mail. to:
> kazaam@oleco.net (my own mailadress) and I choosed two chain-links for this
> test:
>
> c)hain: borked,cyberiad (reliability: 100.00%)
> r)edundancy: 1 copies
>
> d)estination: kazaam@oleco.net s)ubject: test
>
> pgp encry)ption: no
>
> then I did e)dit and wrote something and closed this again with :quit!.
>
> Now I had one message in the pool and made s)end message from pool and it
> outputs: done.
>
> But I don't get no mail to kazaam@oleco.net 
>
> What goes wrong and how can I check what goes wrong? --
Have you checked the settings in mix.cfg to see what mailserver settings you
have in place? By default it will use whatever your base system is - I'm not
sure about Feisty Fawn, is it exim4?. I suspect your block is there rather than
with Mixmaster itself. You may want to use SMTPRELAY direct to your ISP.
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| anansi 2007-07-16, 1:13 pm |
| thanks for your answers!
It is now exactly 24h after I sent the first message and none of my
test-messages has arrived yet.
I tried to find a mix.cfg and finally found it. But it is hidden in:
../var/lib/mixmaster/Mix/mix.cfg and is just a link to
/etc/mixmaster/remailer.cfg:
/var/lib/mixmaster/Mix# ls -al
drwx--S--- 2 mixmaster mixmaster 4096 2007-05-14 15:23 .
drwxr-sr-x 4 mixmaster mixmaster 4096 2007-05-14 15:23 ..
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root mixmaster 28 2007-05-14 15:23 mix.cfg ->
/etc/mixmaster/remailer.conf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root mixmaster 26 2007-05-14 15:23 update.conf ->
/etc/mixmaster/update.conf
But there's no SMPTRelay-var in it? And I checked sendmail and it is
installed and the path is alright.
here's my remailer.cfg :
# Configuration for mixmaster remailer
# If you change any settings please run /usr/lib/mixmaster/mixmaster-rebuild
# (preferable as user mixmaster) in order to rebuild abuse.txt, blocked.txt,
# reply.txt, help.txt, and usage.txt from the templates in
# /etc/mixmaster/remailer
# see mixmaster(1) for more information
SENDMAIL /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -oi
# Where to read mail messages from
MAILIN /var/mail/mixmaster
# Where to store non-remailer messages:
MAILBOX /var/lib/mixmaster/mbox
#MAILABUSE mbox.abuse
#MAILBLOCK mbox.block
#MAILUSAGE mbox.usage
#MAILANON mbox.anon
#MAILERROR mbox.error
#MAILBOUNCE mbox.bounce
REMAIL n
MIDDLEMAN n
PASSPHRASE
BINFILTER n
AUTOBLOCK y
AUTOREPLY y
ERRLOG /var/log/mixmaster/err.log
VERBOSE 1
# Remailer name and addresses
REMAILERADDR debian_unconfigured
ANONADDR debian_unconfigured
COMPLAINTS debian_unconfigured
SHORTNAME debian_unconfigured
REMAILERNAME debian_unconfigured
ANONNAME Anonymous
# Supported formats:
MIX y
PGP n
UNENCRYPTED n
# Maximum message size in kB (0 for no limit):
SIZELIMIT 0
POP3SIZELIMIT 0
POP3TIME 15m
# Usenet news:
NEWS mail2news@nym.alias.net
ORGANIZATION Anonymous Posting Service
MID y
# Remailing strategy:
MAILINTIME 1m
SENDPOOLTIME 10m
POOLSIZE 25
RATE 25
IDEXP 7d
PACKETEXP 7d
PGPREMPUBASC /var/lib/mixmaster/used-stats/pubring.asc
PUBRING /var/lib/mixmaster/used-stats/pubring.mix
TYPE1LIST /var/lib/mixmaster/used-stats/rlist.txt
TYPE2REL /var/lib/mixmaster/used-stats/mlist.txt
TYPE2LIST /var/lib/mixmaster/used-stats/type2.list
DISCLAIMFILE /etc/mixmaster/remailer/disclaim.txt
FROMDSCLFILE /etc/mixmaster/remailer/fromdscl.txt
ADMKEYFILE /etc/mixmaster/remailer/adminkey.txt
POP3CONF /etc/mixmaster/remailer/pop3.cfg
SOURCEBLOCK /etc/mixmaster/remailer/source.blk
HDRFILTER /etc/mixmaster/remailer/header.blk
DESTALLOW /etc/mixmaster/remailer/dest.alw
DESTBLOCK dest.blk rab.blk
ABUSEFILE /var/lib/mixmaster/Mix/abuse-generated.txt
BLOCKFILE /var/lib/mixmaster/Mix/blocked-generated.txt
REPLYFILE /var/lib/mixmaster/Mix/reply-generated.txt
USAGEFILE /var/lib/mixmaster/Mix/usage-generated.txt
HELPFILE /var/lib/mixmaster/Mix/help-generated.txt
PIDFILE /var/run/mixmaster/mixmaster.pid
--
greets
one must still have chaos in oneself to be able to
give birth to a dancing star
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| George Orwell 2007-07-16, 1:13 pm |
| In article <f7g6a2$fl6$1@online.de>
anansi <kazaam@oleco.net> wrote:
>
> thanks for your answers!
>
> It is now exactly 24h after I sent the first message and none of my
> test-messages has arrived yet.
>
> I tried to find a mix.cfg and finally found it. But it is hidden in:
> ./var/lib/mixmaster/Mix/mix.cfg and is just a link to
> /etc/mixmaster/remailer.cfg:
>
> /var/lib/mixmaster/Mix# ls -al
> drwx--S--- 2 mixmaster mixmaster 4096 2007-05-14 15:23 .
> drwxr-sr-x 4 mixmaster mixmaster 4096 2007-05-14 15:23 ..
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root mixmaster 28 2007-05-14 15:23 mix.cfg ->
> /etc/mixmaster/remailer.conf
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root mixmaster 26 2007-05-14 15:23 update.conf ->
> /etc/mixmaster/update.conf
>
>
> But there's no SMPTRelay-var in it? And I checked sendmail and it is
> installed and the path is alright.
>
> here's my remailer.cfg :
> # Configuration for mixmaster remailer
>
> # If you change any settings please run /usr/lib/mixmaster/mixmaster-rebuild
> # (preferable as user mixmaster) in order to rebuild abuse.txt, blocked.txt,
> # reply.txt, help.txt, and usage.txt from the templates in
> # /etc/mixmaster/remailer
>
> # see mixmaster(1) for more information
>
> SENDMAIL /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -oi
>
> # Where to read mail messages from
> MAILIN /var/mail/mixmaster
>
> # Where to store non-remailer messages:
> MAILBOX /var/lib/mixmaster/mbox
> #MAILABUSE mbox.abuse
> #MAILBLOCK mbox.block
> #MAILUSAGE mbox.usage
> #MAILANON mbox.anon
> #MAILERROR mbox.error
> #MAILBOUNCE mbox.bounce
>
> REMAIL n
> MIDDLEMAN n
>
> PASSPHRASE
>
> BINFILTER n
> AUTOBLOCK y
> AUTOREPLY y
>
> ERRLOG /var/log/mixmaster/err.log
> VERBOSE 1
>
> # Remailer name and addresses
> REMAILERADDR debian_unconfigured
> ANONADDR debian_unconfigured
> COMPLAINTS debian_unconfigured
>
> SHORTNAME debian_unconfigured
> REMAILERNAME debian_unconfigured
> ANONNAME Anonymous
>
> # Supported formats:
> MIX y
> PGP n
> UNENCRYPTED n
>
> # Maximum message size in kB (0 for no limit):
> SIZELIMIT 0
> POP3SIZELIMIT 0
> POP3TIME 15m
>
> # Usenet news:
> NEWS mail2news@nym.alias.net
> ORGANIZATION Anonymous Posting Service
> MID y
>
Change the above to mail2news@dizum.com and try again.
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| anansi 2007-07-16, 7:13 pm |
| I'm talking about emails, this affects only newsgroups or am I wrong?
George Orwell wrote:
> Change the above to mail2news@dizum.com and try again.
--
greets
one must still have chaos in oneself to be able to
give birth to a dancing star
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| Anonymous 2007-07-16, 7:13 pm |
| On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:27:45 +0200
anansi <kazaam@oleco.net> wrote:
> thanks for your answers!
>
> It is now exactly 24h after I sent the first message and none of my
> test-messages has arrived yet.
>
> I tried to find a mix.cfg and finally found it. But it is hidden in:
> ./var/lib/mixmaster/Mix/mix.cfg and is just a link to
> /etc/mixmaster/remailer.cfg:
>
Did you see the earlier post about using :wq and not :quit! ??
:quit! might have posted an empty message.
When you say sendmail is installed, do you mean that you can send ordinary mail
with it? Because that is necessary before you can use it to send from
Mixmaster. Otherwise ask again about SMPTRELAY.
You may be better with a mix.cfg in your own home directory, since I presume
you are using it only in client mode rather than as a remailer. Even when
testing, only sending one copy is risking it just getting lost. Change it to
chain '1stremailer',*,'2ndremailer' and send 5. At least that way you'll know
it isn't just getting lost in the remialer system, which happens.
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| Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer 2007-07-16, 7:13 pm |
| anansi wrote:
> thanks for your answers!
>
> It is now exactly 24h after I sent the first message and none of my
> test-messages has arrived yet.
>
> I tried to find a mix.cfg and finally found it. But it is hidden in:
> ./var/lib/mixmaster/Mix/mix.cfg and is just a link to
> /etc/mixmaster/remailer.cfg:
>
Copy client.conf to mix.cfg in that directory, or to a hidden subdirectry
in your $HOME named .Mix
> /var/lib/mixmaster/Mix# ls -al
> drwx--S--- 2 mixmaster mixmaster 4096 2007-05-14 15:23 . drwxr-sr-x 4
> mixmaster mixmaster 4096 2007-05-14 15:23 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root
> mixmaster 28 2007-05-14 15:23 mix.cfg -> /etc/mixmaster/remailer.conf
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root mixmaster 26 2007-05-14 15:23 update.conf ->
> /etc/mixmaster/update.conf
>
>
> But there's no SMPTRelay-var in it? And I checked sendmail and it is
> installed and the path is alright.
Right. You have to add the SMTPRELAY option, and possibly others
depending on your ISP's mail server requirements. Use 'man mixmaster'. it
explains everything you need to know about these options. If you have
questions about any of them by all means ask, but we can't know what it
is you need because we have zero knowledge of what your mail server
demands of it's clients. Often times SMTPRELAY is enough, so that's the
specific advice you're being given.
The fact that some sendmail executable or "wrapper" exists may be
irrelevant. Local mail transport agents like Sendmail and Exim often
times default to relaying mail to only local addresses... user accounts
on the single machine to which the MTA is installed. This is a
precautionary measure, to help prevent new installations from becoming
the dreaded "open relay" spammers love so much.
Even if your local MTA *is* configured to deliver messages to remote
machines there can be problems. Since your home machine is very unlikely
to have any sort of MX (Mail Exchange) record, indeed any real DNS
information at all, a lot of remote servers will simply ignore it. Again,
as a precaution against spam.
These are the two main reasons you should at least start out by
configuring Mixmaster to user your ISP mail account as it's SMTPRELAY.
You know that it works, and will be accepted by all other mail servers as
"legitimate". Once you have Mixmaster reliably sending messages through a
know good server, then you can start modifying and/or fine tuning your
setup and looking for alternate methods of delivery if you wish.
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| anansi 2007-07-17, 7:13 am |
| well I'm pretty sure now that there is a problem with sendmail. If I use
mixmaster to send an email and if I try it like this:
echo -e "Subject: Test\ncontent" | /usr/sbin/sendmail -v
kazaam@oleco.net
I don't get any outgoing connections with watch -n 1 netstat --inet. So
I think sendmail doesn't send mails out of my machine which is
responsible probably also for the problem with mixmaster.
--
greets
one must still have chaos in oneself to be able to
give birth to a dancing star
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| Anonymous Sender 2007-07-17, 7:13 pm |
| anansi wrote:
> well I'm pretty sure now that there is a problem with sendmail. If I use
You should know that the sendmail command on your machine is almost
certainly nothing more than a script that does little more than pass the
arguments you give it to Exim. So if you set out to fix things, the
solution is going to be in some Exim configuration file.
Sorry, I'm a Postfix guy. ;)
> mixmaster to send an email and if I try it like this:
> echo -e "Subject: Test\ncontent" | /usr/sbin/sendmail -v
> kazaam@oleco.net
>
> I don't get any outgoing connections with watch -n 1 netstat --inet. So
> I think sendmail doesn't send mails out of my machine which is
> responsible probably also for the problem with mixmaster.
A pretty sure bet. Try the SMTPRELAY setting pointing to your ISP mail
server first. I'd bet cash money that will sort it out for you and let
you send mail. From there you can decide what you want to do about Exim,
and have a reference point from which to start testing. ;)
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| anansi 2007-07-21, 7:12 pm |
| hey I figured out that I'm using postfix on my machine. But how can I
configure it to work with mixmaster I tried it many times but nothing
worked. The problem is I'm using a dynamic IP for postfix and I don't
know which settings I have to make. You are always saying I shall test
sending through external smtp but why do I need to setup a external
smtp-provider for mixmaster? Could someone help me with this?
--
greets
one must still have chaos in oneself to be able to
give birth to a dancing star
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| George Orwell 2007-07-22, 1:12 am |
| anansi wrote:
> hey I figured out that I'm using postfix on my machine. But how can I
> configure it to work with mixmaster I tried it many times but nothing
> worked.
Define "nothing worked". Messages simply didn't show up? Did you get any
bounce notifications, or error messages?
How did Postfix get installed? Mutt? ;)
> The problem is I'm using a dynamic IP for postfix and I don't
> know which settings I have to make.
There's a difference between configuring Mixmaster to use your ISP mail
server to send mail, and configuring Postfix to use that same mail server
as a "smart host". Your first step is to configure Mixmaster to use that
ISP mail server with the SMTPRELAY config file option. If you want to add
the additional/alternate relay you you need to set postfix up for SASL/
TLS/SSL and restrict received mail to authorized senders only. Having a
mail server configured as an open relay is a huge risk, even behind a
firewall.
> You are always saying I shall test
> sending through external smtp but why do I need to setup a external
> smtp-provider for mixmaster? Could someone help me with this?
Again, there's several reasons. Setting up and maintaining a secure mail
server isn't a trivial undertaking for one. If you're relaying mail to
the outside world you have to restrict who can submit mail, and that's
not a simple matter of changing a single line in a config file to use a
proper mail server like it is with Mixmaster.
The fact that many "real" mail servers will see your home mail server as
invalid and reject your mail completely is another problem. That's
something no amount of local configuration can fix. You essentially need
to buy and register a valid domain and create the proper MX records for
your server, or even some remailers will flatly reject your messages. And
as a group remailers are pretty tolerant. The rest of the world won't be
nearly as friendly.
There's also a good possibility that your ISP itself flatly blocks any
"unauthorized" SMTP traffic, with authorized being defined as only that
mail destined to be relayed through their servers. It may be flatly
impossible for you to deliver mail from your own server directly to
*anyone* because of this.
You need to do two things here. First, get Mixmaster working and verify
it's ability to deliver mail. By far the easiest way to do that is to use
a mail server you absolutely know is working fro you like your ISP's. You
also need to understand the form and function of a mail server so that
you can best decide what configuration options that might be available to
you, best meet your needs. It's difficult or maybe impossible to
understand, configure, and test the latter if you haven't bothered with
the former.
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| anansi 2007-07-24, 1:14 pm |
| It seems that I got it working I recieved a mail today I sent three
days! ago on 21.07 to myself through mixmaster. It arrived today. That's
a pretty long time don't you think? Some people used mixmaster to reply
here on my newsgroup post but they have been pretty fast compaired with
my mail. How did you got this speed? Did you choose just one remailer? I
took 4 randomly selected ones...
--
greets
one must still have chaos in oneself to be able to
give birth to a dancing star
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| Anonymous 2007-07-24, 7:13 pm |
| anansi wrote:
> It seems that I got it working I recieved a mail today I sent three
> days! ago on 21.07 to myself through mixmaster. It arrived today. That's
> a pretty long time don't you think? Some people used mixmaster to reply
> here on my newsgroup post but they have been pretty fast compaired with
> my mail. How did you got this speed? Did you choose just one remailer? I
> took 4 randomly selected ones...
I use at least 5. One is no security at all. Three is bare minimum.
What stats source are you using, and have you updated yours with
mixmaster-update?
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