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using mixminion and mixmaster side by side
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| Anonymous 2007-08-21, 1:13 pm |
| Is there any reason not to install & run the mixminion and mixmaster
clients on the same machine at the same time?
thanks
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| Anonymous via Panta Rhei 2007-08-22, 1:13 am |
| Anonymous wrote:
> Is there any reason not to install & run the mixminion and mixmaster
> clients on the same machine at the same time?
>
> thanks
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Should be no problem under linux at command line
level, can't comment on any other usage.
Don't know how this is going to work or bomb but
I'll try to email a mixed mixmastered ng response
using mixminion to get it to the mixmaster remailer's
email address.
Then I'll back it up without mixminion just in
case (sorry, could be a double post there). If
only the mixmaster one shows up after some delay
then it didn't work :-)
(THIS is the mixmaster-only backup)
For postings I had used
mail2news-yyyymmdd-news.groups@anon.lcs.mit.edu
before, but it seems to have gone bust, and using
mail2news-yyyymmdd-news.groups@m2n.mixmin.net
doesn't seem to work except on some test groups.
Never tried this method before though...
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> mail2news-yyyymmdd-news.groups@m2n.mixmin.net
> doesn't seem to work except on some test groups.
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| [Anon] Twice Burned 2007-08-22, 7:13 pm |
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works good
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| Michael Yardley 2007-08-23, 7:13 am |
| m2n.mixmin.net
doesn't seem to work except on some test groups.
me to. do not have the time to screw around with it anymore.
tried it to apas see now it works. He has a lot of newsgroups blocked
off or the e-mail accounts do both with it.wasted a whole evening with
it.
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 02:13:54 -0400 (EDT), Michael Yardley wrote in
Message-Id: <282202.23481.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com>:
> tried it to apas see now it works. He has a lot of newsgroups blocked
> off or the e-mail accounts do both with it.wasted a whole evening with
> it.
When I hear things like this it tempts me to put mail2news delivery
reports online so that people can see why their messages fail to arrive.
Subject and Newsgroups header would be sufficent, along with a report as
to why it failed.
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| Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer 2007-08-23, 7:14 am |
| In article <fajhmf$qbf$1@bananasplit.info>
Zax <admin@bananasplit.info> wrote:
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> When I hear things like this it tempts me to put mail2news delivery
> reports online so that people can see why their messages fail to arrive.
> Subject and Newsgroups header would be sufficent, along with a report as
> to why it failed.
I like that idea. Its annoying when people assume you filtered out their
message because they can't work out how to send it properly.
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| Anonymous Sender 2007-08-23, 7:14 pm |
| When I hear things like this it tempts me to put mail2news delivery
reports online so that people can see why their messages fail to arrive.
Subject and Newsgroups header would be sufficent, along with a report as
to why it failed.
I like that idea. Its annoying when people assume you filtered out their
message because they can't work out how to send it properly.
mail2news-yyyymmdd-news.gro...@m2n.mixmin.net
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using e-mail client you can post to test groups
mail2news-20070822-alt.test@m2n.mixmin.net
Posts successfully to this newsgroup
mail2news-20070822-alt.privacy.anon-server@m2n.mixmin.net
Posts successfully to this newsgroup
them you try to use it the same way to say any general newsgroup, we
will use say New York USA
mail2news-20070822-ny.general@m2n.mixmin.net
It does not post, same with any general or other newsgroup
No Admin www in English to expalin how to do it
because they can't work out how to send it properly
So how do we make it work Mr Know it all. Thank you for your help in
advance. Type how we are supposed to address the e-mail address to make
it work, we would like to use it.
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:00:03 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous Sender wrote in
Message-Id: < e54b96c7d5f62f67edee50dacbeb5c06@remaile
r.metacolo.com>:
> mail2news-20070822-ny.general@m2n.mixmin.net
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> It does not post, same with any general or other newsgroup
Ah, that's because news.bananasplit.info only hosted the big-8 and alt
groups. I've only added other hierarchies on request. I've just changed
this and added the entire active file.
> So how do we make it work Mr Know it all. Thank you for your help in
> advance. Type how we are supposed to address the e-mail address to make
> it work, we would like to use it.
You were using it correctly, just that the group you were posting to
didn't exist on the Usenet server the gateway work with. You should be
alright now.
That's a good argument in favour of posting the error logs. 
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| George Orwell 2007-08-24, 1:14 pm |
| In article <fam816$uhs$1@bananasplit.info>
Zax <admin@bananasplit.info> wrote:
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> On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:00:03 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous Sender wrote in
> Message-Id: < e54b96c7d5f62f67edee50dacbeb5c06@remaile
r.metacolo.com>:
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> Ah, that's because news.bananasplit.info only hosted the big-8 and alt
> groups. I've only added other hierarchies on request. I've just changed
> this and added the entire active file.
>
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> You were using it correctly, just that the group you were posting to
> didn't exist on the Usenet server the gateway work with. You should be
> alright now.
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> That's a good argument in favour of posting the error logs.
I agree, but what sort of information do they contain? What could
your
average user glean from them which would help?
On the topic of mixminion, I hadn't used it in awhile so I was
amazed when
I downloaded the server list and saw the pitiful number of nodes,
many of
which were not recommended. I thought by now mixminion would be
more
robust! Not even a banana! At this writing, 16 recommended nodes,
6 of
which provide smtp. The next big bread-slicer? LONG LIVE
MIXMASTER!
Mixminion version 0.0.7.1
This software is for testing purposes only. Anonym...
Aug 24 07:08:42.785 -0600 [WARN] This software is n...
antani:smtp relay (ok)
cassandra:relay (not recommended)
cside:mbox relay (not recommended)
cyberiad:smtp relay (ok)
dantooine:relay (not recommended)
deuxpi:smtp relay frag (not recommended)
digilicious:relay (ok)
frell:relay (ok)
frell2:relay (not recommended)
geonosis:smtp relay (ok)
grove:mbox relay frag (ok)
KisanganiToo:relay (ok)
lakshmi:mbox relay (not recommended)
mercurio:mbox smtp relay (not recommended)
nefarion:smtp relay (ok)
nowwhat2:mbox relay frag (ok)
parakalo:relay (not recommended)
paranion:mbox smtp relay (ok)
pboxlevel3:smtp relay (ok)
pboxxl:relay (ok)
phobos:relay (not recommended)
PObox:relay (not recommended)
rot26:relay (not recommended)
rufus:relay (ok)
slimine:smtp relay frag (not recommended)
snorky:relay (not recommended)
tainaron:mbox relay (ok)
wiredyne:mbox relay frag (not recommended)
xbox:smtp relay (ok)
yog:relay (ok)
Mixminion Remailers
Stats-Version: 1.0
Last update: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 11:12:00 GMT
mixminion history latency uptime
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tainaron ------------ 7:07:05 96.73%
frell --++-+++++++ 3:08:44 95.85%
KisanganiToo -+++++++++++ 3:09:44 95.85%
pboxxl --+++++++--+ 3:31:44 95.85%
nefarion -++--++++-++ 4:29:32 95.79%
xbox .-++-+++++++ 4:00:28 95.79%
cyberiad ----------+- 5:54:08 95.72%
grove ------------ 5:36:40 95.72%
antani ___....--+++ 19:07:39 93.11%
pboxlevel3 -++-++++-+-+ 3:42:27 91.26%
nowwhat2 -+++++___.-+ 29:56:14 87.71%
frell2 -+++-+++++-+ 3:41:53 83.75%
rufus -+++-+++__.- 21:19:37 81.55%
digilicious -+++--++--++ 4:08:16 80.97%
paranion _.-+--++ 9:39:19 78.65%
snorky -+++-+++++* 3:09:44 70.38%
rot26 -+++++++++ 2:55:08 65.52%
mercurio -+++-+++++ 3:06:27 59.82%
yog ___.-+ 37:34:35 45.82%
cassandra -+++-++++ 3:14:12 43.98%
slimine -++++++++ 3:11:28 43.10%
wiredyne ___.-+ 42:01:46 40.75%
lakshmi --+++++ 4:01:14 25.66%
cside -++-+* 4:04:08 20.26%
geonosis -++ 7:00:23 9.98%
PObox 99:59:59 0.00%
phobos 99:59:59 0.00%
dantooine 99:59:59 0.00%
deuxpi 99:59:59 0.00%
parakalo 99:59:59 0.00%
delay
# 0 to 5 minutes
* 5 to 60 minutes
+ 1 to 4 hours
- - - - 4 to 24 hours
.. 1 to 2 days
_ 2 or more days
Il mittente di questo messaggio|The sender address of this
non corrisponde ad un utente |message is not related to a real
reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of an
di un sistema anonimizzatore |anonymous system
Per maggiori informazioni |For more info
https://www.mixmaster.it
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On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:32:11 +0200 (CEST), George Orwell wrote in
Message-Id: < 827a8eea959026c9b247982b5e9f1971@mixmast
er.it>:
> I agree, but what sort of information do they contain? What could
> your average user glean from them which would help?
Well the logs would be INFO level only and they wouldn't contain any
information beyond that in the posted message. There is no anonymity
associated with a mail2news gateway. It's already happened at the
preceeding remailers.
> On the topic of mixminion, I hadn't used it in awhile so I was amazed
> when I downloaded the server list and saw the pitiful number of nodes,
> many of which were not recommended. I thought by now mixminion would
> be more robust! Not even a banana! At this writing, 16 recommended
> nodes, 6 of which provide smtp. The next big bread-slicer? LONG LIVE
> MIXMASTER!
I run Snorky.
Not sure why it's not recommended at the moment, I'll check that out.
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| Steven 2007-08-24, 7:14 pm |
| George Orwell wrote:
>In article <fam816$uhs$1@bananasplit.info>
>Zax <admin@bananasplit.info> wrote:
A couple of days ago I installed mixminion 0.0.8alpha2. No errors
with the install and self test command.
Sent 10 test post to alt.test, using the gate format above and using
just three OK different nodes on each, and 12 hours later not a one
has shown. That goes for 6 tests made to my own e-mail as well.
Harrumph.... <g>
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>which provide smtp. The next big bread-slicer? LONG LIVE
>MIXMASTER!
I'll agree as for now.
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| George Orwell 2007-08-25, 1:15 am |
| In article <jkluc3leu0qmr304uic02nd9aafqa3lehr@4ax.com>
Steven <steven@nothere.invalid> wrote:
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> Sent 10 test post to alt.test, using the gate format above and using
> just three OK different nodes on each, and 12 hours later not a one
> has shown. That goes for 6 tests made to my own e-mail as well.
>
> Harrumph.... <g>
>
>
> I'll agree as for now.
And as we have seen, now that
mail2news-yyyymmdd
news.group=news.gr
up=news.group=news.group=news.group@m2n.mixmin.net
has completely cornered the market on mixminion newsgroup posting,
its usefulness in this regard is even more limited than it was
before.
DEATH TO MIXMINION!
LONG LIVE MIXMASTER!
Il mittente di questo messaggio|The sender address of this
non corrisponde ad un utente |message is not related to a real
reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of an
di un sistema anonimizzatore |anonymous system
Per maggiori informazioni |For more info
https://www.mixmaster.it
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