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deleting old news messages
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| graeme 2005-10-24, 9:25 am |
| I have just purchased a new computer, but still run Win98. On my old
computer I was using Thunderbird 1.06 but on the new one I am using
Thunderbird 1.07. I have been using Thunderbird for years.
My problem is that on the old computer after I had read a News Group and
closed it, all the messages were automatically deleted. Now if I use
the ALL view the messages are all still there. Does anyone know what I
need to do to delete these old messages?
Any help appreciated.
--
So long and thanks for all the fish.
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| Leonidas Jones 2005-10-24, 9:25 am |
| graeme wrote:
> I have just purchased a new computer, but still run Win98. On my old
> computer I was using Thunderbird 1.06 but on the new one I am using
> Thunderbird 1.07. I have been using Thunderbird for years.
>
> My problem is that on the old computer after I had read a News Group and
> closed it, all the messages were automatically deleted. Now if I use
> the ALL view the messages are all still there. Does anyone know what I
> need to do to delete these old messages?
>
> Any help appreciated.
Are you downloading messages for offline viewing?
If not, all the messages in a news group are stored on the server. You
cannot delete them, but you can choose not to see them.
Set your View settings to solve this. Your settings will depend on your
preference.
I prefer to view newsgroups with messages threaded, and to see only the
threads with unread messages. To accomplish this:
View>>Sort By>>Threaded
Then:
View>>Messages>>All
Then:
View>>Threads>>Threads with Unread
You can play with the view settings to customize them. Easiest thing may
be to look at the view settings on the old machine, then set them in the
same way on the new machine.
Lee
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| graeme 2005-10-24, 9:25 am |
| Leonidas Jones wrote:
> graeme wrote:
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>
> Are you downloading messages for offline viewing?
>
> If not, all the messages in a news group are stored on the server. You
> cannot delete them, but you can choose not to see them.
>
> Set your View settings to solve this. Your settings will depend on your
> preference.
>
> I prefer to view newsgroups with messages threaded, and to see only the
> threads with unread messages. To accomplish this:
>
> View>>Sort By>>Threaded
> Then:
>
> View>>Messages>>All
>
> Then:
>
> View>>Threads>>Threads with Unread
>
> You can play with the view settings to customize them. Easiest thing may
> be to look at the view settings on the old machine, then set them in the
> same way on the new machine.
>
> Lee
Thanks Lee but that is not the solution I am looking for. I use
Broadband so I am always On Line and have never used the Local Folder.
Are you saying that all messages are kept on your computer unless you
use the Unread option?
--
So long and thanks for all the fish.
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| Leonidas Jones 2005-10-24, 9:25 am |
| graeme wrote:
> Leonidas Jones wrote:
> Thanks Lee but that is not the solution I am looking for. I use
> Broadband so I am always On Line and have never used the Local Folder.
> Are you saying that all messages are kept on your computer unless you
> use the Unread option?
>
Okay, if you are on broadband, you are not downloading for off line use,
most likely.
If you are not downloading for off line reading, no messages are stored
on your machine at all. Only the headers are downloaded. The messages
are stored on the news server, and you can only see them on line.
You cannot delete messages from the server, but you can mark them as
read. You can then select a view option that hides messages marked as read.
The directions I gave were intended to set your View settings to see
only the threads with messages you have not read.
Lee
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| graeme wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Are you saying that all messages are kept on your computer unless you
> use the Unread option?
Messages are kept on the news server. You cannot delete them. You can
issue cancels for your own, but quite a few news servers ignore cancels.
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| graeme 2005-10-24, 9:25 am |
| Leonidas Jones wrote:
> graeme wrote:
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> Okay, if you are on broadband, you are not downloading for off line use,
> most likely.
>
> If you are not downloading for off line reading, no messages are stored
> on your machine at all. Only the headers are downloaded. The messages
> are stored on the news server, and you can only see them on line.
>
> You cannot delete messages from the server, but you can mark them as
> read. You can then select a view option that hides messages marked as read.
>
> The directions I gave were intended to set your View settings to see
> only the threads with messages you have not read.
>
> Lee
I have set the settings as they were on my old computer. With my ISP
they download the messages, these are the ones that i want to delete.
--
So long and thanks for all the fish.
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| Leonidas Jones 2005-10-24, 9:25 am |
| graeme wrote:
> Leonidas Jones wrote:
> I have set the settings as they were on my old computer. With my ISP
> they download the messages, these are the ones that i want to delete.
>
Somehow we are not understanding one another. Newsgroup message bodies
are stored on the news server, not your local machine. You cannot
delete them, you can only hide them from your view.
The only thing actually downloaded are the message headers, so
Thunderbird can see what's on the server. You can, however, choose to
download message bodies for offline viewing, but you say you have not
done this.
I have no idea what you mean by "With my ISP they download the
messages". If your ISP has some sort of newsgroup arrangement that is
different then any other, I won't be able to help.
Lee
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| graeme 2005-10-24, 9:25 am |
| Leonidas Jones wrote:
> graeme wrote:
>
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> Somehow we are not understanding one another. Newsgroup message bodies
> are stored on the news server, not your local machine. You cannot
> delete them, you can only hide them from your view.
>
> The only thing actually downloaded are the message headers, so
> Thunderbird can see what's on the server. You can, however, choose to
> download message bodies for offline viewing, but you say you have not
> done this.
>
> I have no idea what you mean by "With my ISP they download the
> messages". If your ISP has some sort of newsgroup arrangement that is
> different then any other, I won't be able to help.
>
> Lee
Thanks for your patience Lee, I just unplugged my modem and although the
headers were still there I was unable to read them so as you say the
messages are stored on the server. On my old machine whenever i closed
a news group the headers were automatically deleted. I obviously had a
fault on my old machine. I can live using the unread option so I will
live with it. Thanks again for your help.
Graeme
--
So long and thanks for all the fish.
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| Leonidas Jones 2005-10-24, 9:25 am |
| graeme wrote:
> Leonidas Jones wrote:
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> Thanks for your patience Lee, I just unplugged my modem and although the
> headers were still there I was unable to read them so as you say the
> messages are stored on the server. On my old machine whenever i closed
> a news group the headers were automatically deleted. I obviously had a
> fault on my old machine. I can live using the unread option so I will
> live with it. Thanks again for your help.
>
> Graeme
>
I try to be patient, and it is no problem here.
The headers won't be deleted until such time as you delete expired
messages, which vary according to server. I still think that there is
view setting you're missing here, but if you can live with this on this
machine, I think we can emulate Sgt. Preston of the Yukon:
"This case is closed!"
Lee
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| Nobody 2005-10-24, 9:25 am |
| On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 02:23:07 GMT, Leonidas Jones <Cap1MD@att.net>
wrote:
>graeme wrote:
>
>I try to be patient, and it is no problem here.
>
>The headers won't be deleted until such time as you delete expired
>messages, which vary according to server. I still think that there is
>view setting you're missing here, but if you can live with this on this
>machine, I think we can emulate Sgt. Preston of the Yukon:
>
>"This case is closed!"
>
>Lee
No, no, no! No such thing as "the Yukon". Local usage is simply
<Yukon>!
Similarly, you'll cause traffic jams in Admonton and other large
places on the Canadian Prairies by referring to "The Ukraine".
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| Leonidas Jones 2005-10-24, 9:25 am |
| Nobody wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 02:23:07 GMT, Leonidas Jones <Cap1MD@att.net>
> wrote:
>
>
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> No, no, no! No such thing as "the Yukon". Local usage is simply
> <Yukon>!
>
> Similarly, you'll cause traffic jams in Admonton and other large
> places on the Canadian Prairies by referring to "The Ukraine".
You are correct, however, the old radio/early tv show was called "Sgt.
Preston of _the_ Yukon". I'm just trying to be faithful to that.
His lead sled dog was "Yukon King".
Lee
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| Nobody wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 02:23:07 GMT, Leonidas Jones <Cap1MD@att.net>
> wrote:
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> No, no, no! No such thing as "the Yukon". Local usage is simply
> <Yukon>!
>
> Similarly, you'll cause traffic jams in Admonton and other large
> places on the Canadian Prairies by referring to "The Ukraine".
Admonton -- where is that? I've heard of Edmonton, but not Admonton
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| Nobody 2005-10-24, 9:25 am |
| On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:59:29 -0700, gwtc
<TheNewGWTC@pppmppfmpfmmmmfmmmpfmmpp.pppmppfmp> wrote:
>Nobody wrote:
>
>Admonton -- where is that? I've heard of Edmonton, but not Admonton
Anyone with any connection to Alberta's capital city will appreciate
the joke. The "A" was deliberate.
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| Nobody wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:59:29 -0700, gwtc
> <TheNewGWTC@pppmppfmpfmmmmfmmmpfmmpp.pppmppfmp> wrote:
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>
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> Anyone with any connection to Alberta's capital city will appreciate
> the joke. The "A" was deliberate.
Well, I wouldn't know about Alberta jokes, after all I'm from
Hongcouver, or Vangcouver -- aka Vancouver
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