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Some issues with FF and TBird
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| Gordon Abbot 2006-04-27, 6:52 am |
| I finally decided to shift form Moz 1.7 to FF and TBird. I have shifted
back to Moz 1.7 for the following reasons.
First, I use multiple profiles and 1.7 manages them easily. FF and TBird
do not. If you are going to use FF with a single profile, then it works
fine and no issues. TBird is worse since it does not work well with
other programs, such as Mail Washer, with multiple profiles. Moz 1.7
does so flawlessly.
With Moz 1.7 you can have all your profiles in one folder, and if you
delete one, the others stay intact. If they are in one folder in FF or
TBird, all are deleted, so each profile must be in a discrete folder
(Mydocuments\Gabbot, Julia, etc) and not a subfolder (Like
Mydocuments\Profiles\Gabbot and Profiles\Julia).
Second: Moz 1.7 handles tabs from bookmarks the way I want without an
extension. The problem with extensions in the Mozilla world is they can
be troublesome when updating to the next version and may not be around
for the next version, so less is better.
Third: My computer started slowing down with FF, so I ran Spybot Search
and destroy and found a load of tracking cookies. I deleted them and
tested the various cookie settings in FF. They are much more limited
than Moz 1.7, so you will get a lot of cookies, as I found when I
checked the cookies in Spybot and found there was one moz 1.7 cookie for
every 10-20 FF cookies. I ran FF against Moz 1.7 visiting the same
websites (notorious for tracking cookies) and picked up 9 tracking
cookies (the bad ones) with FF while Moz had none. Moz is consistently
clean of bad cookies.
FF did work better in the use of fonts, since I like larger fonts when I
read online. It also has better interfaces to find related things like
extensions and themes. I found that a joy to use. It also is more
compatible with the web pages I had difficulty with when I use Moz 1.7.
Next stop is Sea Monkey. But if it has issues then I will settle on Moz
as default for mail and browsing and FF for use with my troublesome
websites.
Never IE which is really bad with about everything.
GA
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| Gordon Abbot wrote:
> I finally decided to shift form Moz 1.7 to FF and TBird. I have shifted
> back to Moz 1.7 for the following reasons.
>
> First, I use multiple profiles and 1.7 manages them easily. FF and TBird
> do not. If you are going to use FF with a single profile, then it works
> fine and no issues. TBird is worse since it does not work well with
> other programs, such as Mail Washer, with multiple profiles. Moz 1.7
> does so flawlessly.
>
Multiple profiles: TB and FF can handle multi profiles without
problems. You need to use the profile manager. TB has one, but FF
doesn't, so you have to create one. First, close FF, then click on
Start, Run, and enter:
firefox.exe -p
this will bring up the profile manager.
Mail Washer: Others will disagree. They have it working with theirs
with no problems.
> With Moz 1.7 you can have all your profiles in one folder, and if you
> delete one, the others stay intact. If they are in one folder in FF or
> TBird, all are deleted, so each profile must be in a discrete folder
> (Mydocuments\Gabbot, Julia, etc) and not a subfolder (Like
> Mydocuments\Profiles\Gabbot and Profiles\Julia).
>
Yes, both TB and FF can have their own separate profiles, but not
under each other.
> Second: Moz 1.7 handles tabs from bookmarks the way I want without an
> extension. The problem with extensions in the Mozilla world is they can
> be troublesome when updating to the next version and may not be around
> for the next version, so less is better.
>
Agree on Tabs
Extensions: Yes, FF handles them better. But for Moz, you can have
the extension uninstaller and the extension manager: http://mozmonkey.com/
> Third: My computer started slowing down with FF, so I ran Spybot Search
> and destroy and found a load of tracking cookies. I deleted them and
> tested the various cookie settings in FF. They are much more limited
> than Moz 1.7, so you will get a lot of cookies, as I found when I
> checked the cookies in Spybot and found there was one moz 1.7 cookie for
> every 10-20 FF cookies. I ran FF against Moz 1.7 visiting the same
> websites (notorious for tracking cookies) and picked up 9 tracking
> cookies (the bad ones) with FF while Moz had none. Moz is consistently
> clean of bad cookies.
>
Then change your cookies settings in FF: Tools, Options, Privacy,
Cookies, and pick "Until I close FF". Unfortuantly, FF doesn't have a
session cookies settings, like Moz has. You have to get an extension
for that.
> FF did work better in the use of fonts, since I like larger fonts when I
> read online. It also has better interfaces to find related things like
> extensions and themes. I found that a joy to use. It also is more
> compatible with the web pages I had difficulty with when I use Moz 1.7.
>
> Next stop is Sea Monkey. But if it has issues then I will settle on Moz
> as default for mail and browsing and FF for use with my troublesome
> websites.
>
Seamonkey is a continuation of Moz.
> Never IE which is really bad with about everything.
>
> GA
>
>
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| Gordon Abbot 2006-04-27, 6:52 am |
| gwtc wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> Gordon Abbot wrote:
>
> Multiple profiles: TB and FF can handle multi profiles without
> problems. You need to use the profile manager. TB has one, but FF
> doesn't, so you have to create one. First, close FF, then click on
> Start, Run, and enter:
>
> firefox.exe -p
>
> this will bring up the profile manager.
>
> Mail Washer: Others will disagree. They have it working with theirs
> with no problems.
>
>
>
> Yes, both TB and FF can have their own separate profiles, but not under
> each other.
>
>
>
> Agree on Tabs
>
> Extensions: Yes, FF handles them better. But for Moz, you can have the
> extension uninstaller and the extension manager: http://mozmonkey.com/
>
>
> Then change your cookies settings in FF: Tools, Options, Privacy,
> Cookies, and pick "Until I close FF". Unfortuantly, FF doesn't have a
> session cookies settings, like Moz has. You have to get an extension
> for that.
>
>
> Seamonkey is a continuation of Moz.
>
Not to argue, but I already did everything you recommended and there
were still issues. It is much more difficult importing to multiple
profiles in FF and TBird from profiles in Moz 1.7. I read the FF and
TBird profile instructions on setting up multiple profiles and it does
say to stay away from multiple profiles unless you are a developer or
really need them. Should have listened.
I did download Sea Monkey after I sent the first message, and the
transition was seamless and instantaneous. Spent most of half a day
trying to configure all my profiles in FF and TBird, which Sea Monkey
picked them all up with no problems. Should have started with SM.
In fact, I am writing this using SM. Picked up all my setting in Moz 1.7
including all profiles and mail.
I deleted FF/TBird and the profiles and installed it alone. I will use
it for specific web pages which it handles better than SM or Moz 1.7.
That way I do not have to use IE. I also like the fact that I can choose
which mail profile to use with FF, but not with Moz or SM. That is a
nice feature, but I can do that with FF and SM.
GA
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