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Trouble sending mp3 attachments
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| First time trying to send 2x mp3s as attachments.
One is 6658kb and other 2846kb.
First off Thunderbird refused because I was over the global limit.
Is there a size limit for attachments?
Then I dropped one and it knocked me back again.
"Sending failed because connecting to SMTP server failed.
Server unavailable or refusing SMTP connections.
Recommended checking settings or contact administrator."
Is it still too big or do I have a setting incorrect somewhere?
I'm using XP.
thanks Tana
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| Tana wrote:
> First time trying to send 2x mp3s as attachments.
> One is 6658kb and other 2846kb.
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> First off Thunderbird refused because I was over the global limit.
> Is there a size limit for attachments?
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> Then I dropped one and it knocked me back again.
>
> "Sending failed because connecting to SMTP server failed.
> Server unavailable or refusing SMTP connections.
> Recommended checking settings or contact administrator."
>
> Is it still too big or do I have a setting incorrect somewhere?
>
> I'm using XP.
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> thanks Tana
size limits depend on 2 things, both of which are not TBs fault. The
first one is your email provider limits the size. The other is the
receiver.
As for your 2nd question, contact your email provider.
As for sending, learn to zip files and make them smaller. If they're
still too big, then get yourself a file splitter. The one I like is
chainsaw. When the other side gets the files, all they have to do is
click on the bat file and the files are put togother automatically.
They don't have to pussy-foot around:
http://www.frankenwandern.de/software/chainsaw.html
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Did you know that Al Capone's business card said he was a used
furniture dealer.
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| Olgierd 2006-07-23, 1:11 pm |
| *gwtc* wrote:
> size limits depend on 2 things, both of which are not TBs fault. The
> first one is your email provider limits the size. The other is the
> receiver.
This is a known 'feature' that sometimes Thunderbird may have problems
with sending big files, especially when running on a PC with antivirus
software checking outgoing mail. Once I supposed this might depend on the
provider but I never have such problems after I switched to Linux.
> As for sending, learn to zip files and make them smaller.
The mp3 files can be hardly zipped.
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| Olgierd wrote:
> *gwtc* wrote:
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> This is a known 'feature' that sometimes Thunderbird may have problems
> with sending big files, especially when running on a PC with antivirus
> software checking outgoing mail. Once I supposed this might depend on the
> provider but I never have such problems after I switched to Linux.
>
>
> The mp3 files can be hardly zipped.
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why do you have an av checking outgoing mail? Disable it. Its only
incoming mail you want to check, not outgoing!
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Did you know that Al Capone's business card said he was a used
furniture dealer.
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| Ed Mullen 2006-07-23, 1:11 pm |
| gwtc wrote:
> Tana wrote:
> size limits depend on 2 things, both of which are not TBs fault. The
> first one is your email provider limits the size. The other is the
> receiver.
>
> As for your 2nd question, contact your email provider.
>
> As for sending, learn to zip files and make them smaller. If they're
> still too big, then get yourself a file splitter. The one I like is
> chainsaw. When the other side gets the files, all they have to do is
> click on the bat file and the files are put togother automatically. They
> don't have to pussy-foot around:
> http://www.frankenwandern.de/software/chainsaw.html
>
For those who don't know, when you attach a binary file to an email you
can't simply look at the size of the file. There is overhead involved
in encoding the attachment so that it can be sent as a plain text email
over the Internet. If your ISP's size limit for an individual email is
10Mb you probably will not be able to attach a 9Mb file without the
resulting email being larger than 10Mb.
Zipping files like .mp3, .wma, .jpg, etc. won't gain any appreciable
savings since the formats are already compressed. For example, I just
zipped an .mp3 file. Original size = 1,964Kb. Zipped (using Winzip and
Max Portable compression) size = 1,835Kb.
As you advise, splitting such a file is the way to go if you think the
resulting email will be larger than your (or your recipient's) size limit.
FWIW, I use Winzip and it will split a zip file and also create an
auto-extracting archive so the recipient doesn't have to have Winzip to
unpack the archive.
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Ed Mullen
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| Ed Mullen 2006-07-23, 1:11 pm |
| Ed Mullen wrote:
> gwtc wrote:
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> For those who don't know, when you attach a binary file to an email you
> can't simply look at the size of the file. There is overhead involved
> in encoding the attachment so that it can be sent as a plain text email
> over the Internet. If your ISP's size limit for an individual email is
> 10Mb you probably will not be able to attach a 9Mb file without the
> resulting email being larger than 10Mb.
>
> Zipping files like .mp3, .wma, .jpg, etc. won't gain any appreciable
> savings since the formats are already compressed. For example, I just
> zipped an .mp3 file. Original size = 1,964Kb. Zipped (using Winzip and
> Max Portable compression) size = 1,835Kb.
>
> As you advise, splitting such a file is the way to go if you think the
> resulting email will be larger than your (or your recipient's) size limit.
>
> FWIW, I use Winzip and it will split a zip file and also create an
> auto-extracting archive so the recipient doesn't have to have Winzip to
> unpack the archive.
>
As a further illustration ...
Empty email (no body text) with an attached file of 8,782Kb. The
resulting email is 11,602Kb. The overhead is over 25%.
And you won't normally know how big the email is until after you send
it. Further, I think most ISPs will not reject the message for being too
big until you've already sent the whole thing and then get an email with
an "undeliverable" message in it. If in doubt about the size, compose
the email then Save it as a Draft. Go the draft folder and check the
size. If it's below the limit you can send it from there. If it's too
big you can break the file into smaller chunks and send it in more than
one email.
--
Ed Mullen
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http://abington.edmullen.net
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tomorrow, how cold is it going to be?
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| HellPopeHuey 2006-07-23, 1:11 pm |
| gwtc wrote:
> As for sending, learn to zip files and make them smaller. If they're
> still too big, then get yourself a file splitter. The one I like is
> chainsaw. When the other side gets the files, all they have to do is
> click on the bat file and the files are put togother automatically. They
> don't have to pussy-foot around:
> http://www.frankenwandern.de/software/chainsaw.html
Excellent tip. I have a real need for such an item, but no luck so
far. Does anyone know of a Mac OS X version of a similar utility? I'll
Search under 'file splitter," which I had not yet thought to do, but a
URL would speed it up. Thanks for adding useful info to the stash.
--
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| Olgierd 2006-07-23, 7:11 pm |
| *gwtc* wrote:
> why do you have an av checking outgoing mail? Disable it. Its only
> incoming mail you want to check, not outgoing!
Me? I do not use any antivirus software! I don't have to ;-)
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| Ed Mullen wrote:
> gwtc wrote:
>
> For those who don't know, when you attach a binary file to an email you
> can't simply look at the size of the file. There is overhead involved
> in encoding the attachment so that it can be sent as a plain text email
> over the Internet. If your ISP's size limit for an individual email is
> 10Mb you probably will not be able to attach a 9Mb file without the
> resulting email being larger than 10Mb.
>
> Zipping files like .mp3, .wma, .jpg, etc. won't gain any appreciable
> savings since the formats are already compressed. For example, I just
> zipped an .mp3 file. Original size = 1,964Kb. Zipped (using Winzip and
> Max Portable compression) size = 1,835Kb.
>
> As you advise, splitting such a file is the way to go if you think the
> resulting email will be larger than your (or your recipient's) size limit.
>
> FWIW, I use Winzip and it will split a zip file and also create an
> auto-extracting archive so the recipient doesn't have to have Winzip to
> unpack the archive.
>
what version of winzip does that? Mine, 7.0, doesn't.
--
So, You Think You Know Everything?
Did you know that Al Capone's business card said he was a used
furniture dealer.
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| HellPopeHuey wrote:
> gwtc wrote:
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> Excellent tip. I have a real need for such an item, but no luck so
> far. Does anyone know of a Mac OS X version of a similar utility? I'll
> Search under 'file splitter," which I had not yet thought to do, but a
> URL would speed it up. Thanks for adding useful info to the stash.
>
first, you need to fix your sig line delimiter. It should be dash
dash space [-- ]. Thanks
Try HJ-Split: http://www.freebyte.com/hjsplit/, its available for ANY
platform. The only problem with this, is it doesn't create an
auto-extracting arhive. The people who receive the split files, must
also be using hj-split. But hey, the program is FREE.
--
So, You Think You Know Everything?
Did you know that Al Capone's business card said he was a used
furniture dealer.
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| Olgierd wrote:
> *gwtc* wrote:
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> Me? I do not use any antivirus software! I don't have to ;-)
>
in the 12 years I've been on the net, I've never had to use one.
--
So, You Think You Know Everything?
Did you know that Al Capone's business card said he was a used
furniture dealer.
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| HellPopeHuey 2006-07-23, 7:11 pm |
| gwtc wrote:
> first, you need to fix your sig line delimiter. It should be dash dash
> space [-- ]. Thanks
Sheesh, don't you have anything better to do than get anal over such
minutiae? Its a minor oversight and a blip on the screen of the larger
e-world. I rarely bother to respond to such fussiness, but it gets
TEDIOUS. If you don't like the content of a group or anyone's posts,
skip past them. I have to do it; its just part of "doing business" for
the sake of the useful information and laughs Usenet often confers. Its
mostly a positive thing and should be taken for its greater merits. I
just sail past flame wars and the like as easily discarded wastes of
time, but geez, pull that STICK out, willya? Have a snort, watch "The
Simpsons" and let it go.
HPH
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| HellPopeHuey wrote:
> gwtc wrote:
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> Sheesh, don't you have anything better to do than get anal over such
> minutiae? Its a minor oversight and a blip on the screen of the larger
> e-world. I rarely bother to respond to such fussiness, but it gets
> TEDIOUS. If you don't like the content of a group or anyone's posts,
> skip past them. I have to do it; its just part of "doing business" for
> the sake of the useful information and laughs Usenet often confers. Its
> mostly a positive thing and should be taken for its greater merits. I
> just sail past flame wars and the like as easily discarded wastes of
> time, but geez, pull that STICK out, willya? Have a snort, watch "The
> Simpsons" and let it go.
>
> HPH
>
Well, if thats your attitude then *PLONK*
--
So, You Think You Know Everything?
Did you know that Al Capone's business card said he was a used
furniture dealer.
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| Ed Mullen 2006-07-24, 1:11 pm |
| HellPopeHuey wrote:
> gwtc wrote:
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> Sheesh, don't you have anything better to do than get anal over such
> minutiae? Its a minor oversight and a blip on the screen of the larger
> e-world. I rarely bother to respond to such fussiness, but it gets
> TEDIOUS. If you don't like the content of a group or anyone's posts,
> skip past them. I have to do it; its just part of "doing business" for
A 23 line sig that can't automatically be stripped out because of a
broken delimiter is more than a minor blip. To use your word: it's
tedious. gwtc's suggestion was polite and didn't merit the response you
gave.
--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net
http://mozilla.edmullen.net
http://abington.edmullen.net
Don't be accommodating, be honest. I honestly don't have much more time
for anything else.
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| Ed Mullen wrote:
> gwtc wrote:
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> Version 10.0.
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ahhh, that explains it.
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So, You Think You Know Everything?
Did you know that Al Capone's business card said he was a used
furniture dealer.
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| Ed Mullen 2006-07-24, 1:11 pm |
| gwtc wrote:
> Ed Mullen wrote:
> ahhh, that explains it.
>
It also supports higher compression ratios. Might be time for an
upgrade. ;-)
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Ed Mullen
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http://mozilla.edmullen.net
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foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. - Douglas
Adams
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| Ed Mullen wrote:
> gwtc wrote:
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> It also supports higher compression ratios. Might be time for an
> upgrade. ;-)
>
only if its FREE
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So, You Think You Know Everything?
Did you know that Al Capone's business card said he was a used
furniture dealer.
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| HellPopeHuey 2006-07-24, 7:12 pm |
| Ed Mullen wrote:
HellPopeHuey wrote:
> A 23 line sig that can't automatically be stripped out because of a
> broken delimiter is more than a minor blip. To use your word: it's
> tedious. gwtc's suggestion was polite and didn't merit the response you
> gave.
You are the first two to complain about it in over a year and the
crowd on that group laughed at the previous person who thought it was an
issue at all. Focus on the content and ignore the sig. Most find it
amusing enough and no one is 'forced' to do anything but read or not
read. He made a point of mentioning it 3x; that's worse overkill than a
lengthy sig you can simply click past. My last comment on it: make the
posts your priority and don't waste time being picky over formatting
that doesn't affect the main content we come for. Its a useful group and
I appreciate people's pointers, which I usually persue with no comment.
That's the only priority of merit.
HPH
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| Ed Mullen 2006-07-25, 1:16 am |
| HellPopeHuey wrote:
> Ed Mullen wrote:
> HellPopeHuey wrote:
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> You are the first two to complain about it in over a year and the crowd
> on that group laughed at the previous person who thought it was an issue
> at all. Focus on the content and ignore the sig. Most find it amusing
> enough and no one is 'forced' to do anything but read or not read. He
> made a point of mentioning it 3x; that's worse overkill than a lengthy
> sig you can simply click past. My last comment on it: make the posts
> your priority and don't waste time being picky over formatting that
> doesn't affect the main content we come for. Its a useful group and I
> appreciate people's pointers, which I usually persue with no comment.
> That's the only priority of merit.
>
> HPH
>
>
>
>
I won't read a 23 line sig but that's not the point. Every time you
post a reply in a thread the entire 23 lines gets added to the message -
over and over and over again. It's PITA to have to scroll past all that
crap. Rationalize it anyway you like, what it amounts to is either
ignorance, rudeness, or both. You're quite simply ignoring accepted
Usenet practices (http://mozilla.edmullen.net/moz_sigtag.html).
--
Ed Mullen
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http://mozilla.edmullen.net
http://abington.edmullen.net
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bra-less pulls all the wrinkles out of her face.
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| John Thompson 2006-07-25, 7:12 pm |
| On 2006-07-24, gwtc <TheNewGWTC@rcnpfgra.gra> wrote:
> Ed Mullen wrote:
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> only if its FREE
IIRC, new releases of WinZip have always been free to registered users.
--
John (john@os2.dhs.org)
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| Doug G 2006-07-26, 7:12 am |
| John Thompson wrote:
> On 2006-07-24, gwtc <TheNewGWTC@rcnpfgra.gra> wrote:
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> IIRC, new releases of WinZip have always been free to registered users.
>
Not any longer.
Registered users of previous versions of WinZip are eligible to upgrade
at 50% of the WinZip 10.0 list prices. The single-user upgrade to WinZip
10.0 Standard costs only $14.95 and to WinZip 10.0 Pro only $24.95.
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