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Firefox security alert.
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-02, 7:13 pm |
| I heard there is problem with the way FF handles quicktime
files which comprimise your security.
Not present in IE apparently.
I heard FF was supposed to be more secure.
Aparently not.
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| On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:26:00 GMT, "Lord Turkey Cough"
>I _ heard_ there is problem with the way FF handles quicktime files
Where? What authority?
> which comprimise your security.
How?
>Not present in IE _apparently_.
There's more to life than that which meets the eye (i.e. "appears").
>I _heard_ FF was supposed to be more secure.
Where? What authority?
>_Aparentl_y not.
There's more to life than that which meets the eye (i.e. "appears").
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-03, 1:14 am |
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"Joe" <joe@doe.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:26:00 GMT, "Lord Turkey Cough"
>
> Where? What authority?
>
> How?
>
> There's more to life than that which meets the eye (i.e. "appears").
>
> Where? What authority?
>
> There's more to life than that which meets the eye (i.e. "appears").
>
>
See my above post.
I found a way to 'fix' it but I can't remember what i did or find the link.
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| Ed Mullen 2007-12-03, 1:14 am |
| Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
> "Joe" <joe@doe.net> wrote in message
> news:1po6l31qq0q173em3c7cgi5ltsmj9pgvms@
4ax.com...
>
> See my above post.
> I found a way to 'fix' it but I can't remember what i did or find the link.
>
>
Well, that's really helpful.
--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net
http://mozilla.edmullen.net
http://abington.edmullen.net
I heard that in relativity theory, space and time are the same thing.
Einstein discovered this when he kept showing up three miles late to
meetings.
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| Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
> "Joe" <joe@doe.net> wrote in message
> news:1po6l31qq0q173em3c7cgi5ltsmj9pgvms@
4ax.com...
>
> See my above post.
> I found a way to 'fix' it but I can't remember what i did or find the link.
>
>
Prescription: a big chug-a-lug of Robitussin DM,
loosening up a big luggie of information would be
"productive" for us all
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-03, 1:14 am |
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"Ed Mullen" <ed@edmullen.net> wrote in message
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> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
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> Well, that's really helpful.
True but at least you know your system is insecure :O)
>
> --
> Ed Mullen
> http://edmullen.net
> http://mozilla.edmullen.net
> http://abington.edmullen.net
> I heard that in relativity theory, space and time are the same thing.
> Einstein discovered this when he kept showing up three miles late to
> meetings.
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-03, 1:14 am |
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"Dan C" <dan.r.c@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
>
>
> Prescription: a big chug-a-lug of Robitussin DM, loosening up a big
> luggie of information would be "productive" for us all
I found it again but I think I have lost it again :O)
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-03, 1:14 am |
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"Lord Turkey Cough" <spamdump@invalid.com> wrote in message
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> "Ed Mullen" <ed@edmullen.net> wrote in message
> news:7rqdnYX7ia2u4c7anZ2dnUVZ_vDinZ2d@co
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> True but at least you know your system is insecure :O)
This might help.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/1...cktime_exploit/
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-03, 1:14 am |
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"Lord Turkey Cough" <spamdump@invalid.com> wrote in message
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> "Dan C" <dan.r.c@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:PhL4j.75563$YL5.59259@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
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> I found it again but I think I have lost it again :O)
This might help.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/1...cktime_exploit/
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-03, 1:14 am |
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"Leonidas Jones" <Cap1MD@att.net> wrote in message
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> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
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> Thanks for the link, it would have been a good idea to include it in the
> first place.
>
> "Window Snyder, Mozilla's security chief said Wednesday her team was
> looking into the matter."
A hole has appeared in the road. The police are looking into it.
>
> I saw Window's blog entry after i replied to you. I am sure this will be
> addressed very quickly.
Doubt it.
>
> By the way, OE Quotefix would be a really, really good idea, if you are
> going to post on Mozilla groups:
Quoting seems to work for me.
Are you havving a problem with it?
>
> http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
>
> Lee
>
> --
> Leonidas Jones, Netscape/Mozilla Champion
> The Champs: http://mozillachampions.ufaq.org
> Links: http://www.ufaq.org/ http://mozilla.com http://kb.mozillazine.org
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| Leonidas Jones 2007-12-03, 1:14 am |
| Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
> "Leonidas Jones" <Cap1MD@att.net> wrote in message
> news:edL4j.9666$MJ6.875@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
/snip/[vbcol=seagreen]
> Quoting seems to work for me.
> Are you havving a problem with it?
>
>
>
Yes, and all non OE users will notice it. For example, a compliant
newsreader will strip my sig line, which you can see is still here.
Lee
--
Leonidas Jones, Netscape/Mozilla Champion
The Champs: http://mozillachampions.ufaq.org
Links: http://www.ufaq.org/ http://mozilla.com http://kb.mozillazine.org
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| Ed Mullen 2007-12-03, 1:14 am |
| Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
> "Ed Mullen" <ed@edmullen.net> wrote in message
> news:7rqdnYX7ia2u4c7anZ2dnUVZ_vDinZ2d@co
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> True but at least you know your system is insecure :O)
No, actually, it's not, they are not. Spread all the FUD you like, my
systems are not compromised. Tell ya what, go ahead and attack them.
Try your best. Have at it. And, while you're at it, please document
actual exploitations that have happened because of the vulnerability you
cited. Please. Just because your house is built of wood, and wood is
flammable, doesn't mean there are houses burning down all over the
Mozilla landscape. Sheesh. It is a huge dis-service you are doing, not
some laudable alert.
So, just stop the Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt crap. EVERY piece of
software and every system will, at some time, exhibit some
vulnerability. Are those exploitable? Have they been exploited? How
often? And how quickly are those fixed? Compare Open Source products
with commercial ones (from Microsoft, Adobe, etc.). What gets fixes out
more quickly?
Mozilla (and every other Open Source product) is VERY quickly patched to
address all the yahoos out there targeting them. Your "alert" is a huge
"yawn" at best. At worst, you're here trying to alarm less
knowledgeable users for no effect other than to needlessly alarm.
--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net
http://mozilla.edmullen.net
http://abington.edmullen.net
All I ask is a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
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| Ed Mullen 2007-12-03, 1:14 am |
| Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
> "Dan C" <dan.r.c@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:PhL4j.75563$YL5.59259@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
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> I found it again but I think I have lost it again :O)
>
>
Wow, you really are a fountain of information!
--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net
http://mozilla.edmullen.net
http://abington.edmullen.net
A conscience is what hurts when all your other parts feel so good.
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-03, 1:14 am |
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"Leonidas Jones" <Cap1MD@att.net> wrote in message
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> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
> /snip/
>
> Yes, and all non OE users will notice it. For example, a compliant
> newsreader will strip my sig line, which you can see is still here.
It would appear the problem is 'at your end' then?
>
> Lee
>
> --
> Leonidas Jones, Netscape/Mozilla Champion
> The Champs: http://mozillachampions.ufaq.org
> Links: http://www.ufaq.org/ http://mozilla.com http://kb.mozillazine.org
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-03, 1:14 am |
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"Ed Mullen" <ed@edmullen.net> wrote in message
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> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
>
>
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> No, actually, it's not, they are not. Spread all the FUD you like, my
> systems are not compromised. Tell ya what, go ahead and attack them. Try
> your best. Have at it. And, while you're at it, please document actual
> exploitations that have happened because of the vulnerability you cited.
> Please. Just because your house is built of wood, and wood is flammable,
> doesn't mean there are houses burning down all over the Mozilla landscape.
> Sheesh. It is a huge dis-service you are doing, not some laudable alert.
>
> So, just stop the Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt crap. EVERY piece of
> software and every system will, at some time, exhibit some vulnerability.
> Are those exploitable? Have they been exploited? How often? And how
> quickly are those fixed? Compare Open Source products with commercial
> ones (from Microsoft, Adobe, etc.). What gets fixes out more quickly?
>
> Mozilla (and every other Open Source product) is VERY quickly patched to
> address all the yahoos out there targeting them. Your "alert" is a huge
> "yawn" at best. At worst, you're here trying to alarm less knowledgeable
> users for no effect other than to needlessly alarm.
Whatever, there is an exploit which can allow someone to comprimise your
computer, as far as I am aware it has not been fixed.
If your happy with that them fine.
I am not.
If it has been fixed then prove it!!
It is the 'less knowledgeable users' who should be alarmed as they
will be the most vunerable to it.
I have a feeling I may have been 'attacked' before and if I were you I would
make sure your system does not use Quicktime for the time being, which is
where the real problem is.
I have disabled QT for the time being.
Don't think I need it anyay.
Will soon find out anyway!!
>
> --
> Ed Mullen
> http://edmullen.net
> http://mozilla.edmullen.net
> http://abington.edmullen.net
> All I ask is a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-03, 1:14 am |
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"Ed Mullen" <ed@edmullen.net> wrote in message
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> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
>
> Wow, you really are a fountain of information!
It's called talent :O)
>
> --
> Ed Mullen
> http://edmullen.net
> http://mozilla.edmullen.net
> http://abington.edmullen.net
> A conscience is what hurts when all your other parts feel so good.
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-03, 1:14 am |
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"Lord Turkey Cough" <spamdump@invalid.com> wrote in message
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>I heard there is problem with the way FF handles quicktime
> files which comprimise your security.
> Not present in IE apparently.
> I heard FF was supposed to be more secure.
> Aparently not.
Anyways.
It seems the real problem is with the Quicktime Player and that FF does not
check the files first before using QT as the other browsers do??
So.....
It would seem sensible to disable QT by renaming its folder in program files
from QuickTime to something like QuickTime_bag_of_shit.
I did this and it stopped another applilcation finding it, it started
bleating that it could not
find it, does not seeem FF has required to use it as yet, I need to find a
way of forcing
FF to use QT but I am not sure how to do it, but anyway I don't think it
will find it
(unless it can reaad my mind, of course).
>
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| Ed Mullen 2007-12-03, 1:14 am |
| Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
> "Ed Mullen" <ed@edmullen.net> wrote in message
> news:4Yadnf3Dhr1wGs7anZ2dnUVZ_v6rnZ2d@co
mcast.com...
>
> Whatever, there is an exploit which can allow someone to comprimise your
> computer, as far as I am aware it has not been fixed.
> If your happy with that them fine.
> I am not.
> If it has been fixed then prove it!!
>
If it has been exploited, and if anyone has been harmed, PROVE IT!
That's what I asked in my last post and you haven't responded.
> It is the 'less knowledgeable users' who should be alarmed as they
> will be the most vunerable to it.
How? And how does your FUD help?
Do you offer a solution? No. The fact is that the citation you used
refers to a vulnerabili5ty that has NOT been used successfully. So?
So, by the time any hacker figures out how to use it, it will be fixed.
What say you? How are we all going to be nefariously affected by
this? In fact, how is anyone going to be affected? Tell me. Show me.
Give me citations. Go ahead. I'm open to learning. Are you? Or do
you just get off on spreading FUD? Sheesh. You haven't responded
materially to anything I have said. Your credibility is, to say the
least, waning.
> I have a feeling I may have been 'attacked' before and if I were you I would
> make sure your system does not use Quicktime for the time being, which is
> where the real problem is.
Demonstrate via provable fact, not "I have the feeling ..." Sheesh.
You're helping me and my points, not yours.
> I have disabled QT for the time being.
Well, on this we agree, albeit for different reasons. Quicktime is a
horribly intrusive application, regardless of a user's browser. Still,
you have not offered a single bit of proof that this "potential
vulnerability" has been exploited. Hey, take a pill and calm down.
> Don't think I need it anyay.
>
> Will soon find out anyway!!
Uh, ok. I have no idea what those comments meant (even forgiving the typo).
BTW, you really should fix your OE quoting dilemma (as suggested
before). It's very annoying.
--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net
http://mozilla.edmullen.net
http://abington.edmullen.net
As I said before, I never repeat myself.
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| Leonidas Jones 2007-12-03, 1:14 am |
| Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
> "Leonidas Jones" <Cap1MD@att.net> wrote in message
> news:PGL4j.191868$kj1.73873@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
> It would appear the problem is 'at your end' then?
>
>
>
You are posting in a Mozilla support group. Most of us are using
Mozilla sourced newsreaders. Did you actually read the link I provided?
Sure if you can be sure most people who read your post are using the
broken OE newsreader, fine. That's not true here. Note the two examples
of my sig,both of which a modern newsreader would have snipped by now.
So far, this is trollish behavior. I hope that is not the case.
Lee
--
Leonidas Jones, Netscape/Mozilla Champion
The Champs: http://mozillachampions.ufaq.org
Links: http://www.ufaq.org/ http://mozilla.com http://kb.mozillazine.org
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| Ed Mullen 2007-12-03, 1:14 am |
| Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
> "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamdump@invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:caH4j.1883$KC3.1766@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>
> Anyways.
> It seems the real problem is with the Quicktime Player and that FF does not
> check the files first before using QT as the other browsers do??
>
> So.....
>
> It would seem sensible to disable QT by renaming its folder in program files
> from QuickTime to something like QuickTime_bag_of_shit.
>
> I did this and it stopped another applilcation finding it, it started
> bleating that it could not
> find it, does not seeem FF has required to use it as yet, I need to find a
> way of forcing
> FF to use QT but I am not sure how to do it, but anyway I don't think it
> will find it
> (unless it can reaad my mind, of course).
Ok, so lemme see if I get this.
You don't know what's going on. Yet you feel obligated to post about
your fumbling around your system to no effect, right? Ok. Fabulous!!!
Thanks so much for the help!!!
Look, until you can contribute something substantial and truthful,
please stop!
I can only conclude that any further posts from you should be totally
ignored by everyone.
--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net
http://mozilla.edmullen.net
http://abington.edmullen.net
Marriage changes passion. Suddenly you're in bed with a relative.
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-03, 1:14 am |
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"Leonidas Jones" <Cap1MD@att.net> wrote in message
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> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
>
> You are posting in a Mozilla support group. Most of us are using Mozilla
> sourced newsreaders. Did you actually read the link I provided?
No.
>
> Sure if you can be sure most people who read your post are using the
> broken OE newsreader, fine. That's not true here. Note the two examples of
> my sig,both of which a modern newsreader would have snipped by now.
>
> So far, this is trollish behavior. I hope that is not the case.
Not sure I understand?
Why should I mess with my OE when I don't have a problem with it?
I am thinking logically here.
Surely if you have a problem you should fix it at your end?
>
> Lee
>
> --
> Leonidas Jones, Netscape/Mozilla Champion
> The Champs: http://mozillachampions.ufaq.org
> Links: http://www.ufaq.org/ http://mozilla.com http://kb.mozillazine.org
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| Ed Mullen 2007-12-03, 1:14 am |
| Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
> Not sure I understand?
> Why should I mess with my OE when I don't have a problem with it?
> I am thinking logically here.
> Surely if you have a problem you should fix it at your end?
Do a Google search for "oe quote fix" (use the quotation marks)
It is not a problem for you because you are using broken software. Your
software is sending us crap. You'll never see it because your OE is
broken. Plain enough?
Read, learn. Then post.
--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net
http://mozilla.edmullen.net
http://abington.edmullen.net
Is it time for your medication or mine?
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-03, 1:14 am |
| >>
>
> If it has been exploited, and if anyone has been harmed, PROVE IT! That's
> what I asked in my last post and you haven't responded.
I don't need to prove anything.
I am just reporting a vunerability.
They googliing quicktime firefox exploit.
>
>
> How? And how does your FUD help?
>
> Do you offer a solution? No. The fact is that the citation you used
> refers to a vulnerabili5ty that has NOT been used successfully. So? So,
> by the time any hacker figures out how to use it, it will be fixed.
Speculation.
It is reasobale to assume that the way to exploit the venurability was know
before the vunerabiliry was put into the program.
Otherwises putting it in would be pointless.
It's not difficult to make a media player secure, especially when you have
years
to do it.
> What say you? How are we all going to be nefariously affected by this?
> In fact, how is anyone going to be affected? Tell me. Show me. Give me
> citations. Go ahead. I'm open to learning. Are you? Or do you just get
> off on spreading FUD? Sheesh. You haven't responded materially to
> anything I have said. Your credibility is, to say the least, waning.
>
>
> Demonstrate via provable fact, not "I have the feeling ..." Sheesh.
> You're helping me and my points, not yours.
>
>
> Well, on this we agree, albeit for different reasons. Quicktime is a
> horribly intrusive application, regardless of a user's browser. Still,
> you have not offered a single bit of proof that this "potential
> vulnerability" has been exploited. Hey, take a pill and calm down.
Google second life exploit
http://mashable.com/2007/12/01/secu...in-second-life/
It's a different program but the vunerability if the same.
The stuff is passed directly to quicktime.
I don't need to know the detail because I don't need to use quicktime.
>
>
> Uh, ok. I have no idea what those comments meant (even forgiving the
> typo).
>
> BTW, you really should fix your OE quoting dilemma (as suggested before).
> It's very annoying.
>
> --
> Ed Mullen
> http://edmullen.net
> http://mozilla.edmullen.net
> http://abington.edmullen.net
> As I said before, I never repeat myself.
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-03, 1:14 am |
| > Well, on this we agree, albeit for different reasons. Quicktime is a
> horribly intrusive application, regardless of a user's browser. Still,
> you have not offered a single bit of proof that this "potential
> vulnerability" has been exploited. Hey, take a pill and calm down.
I don't need to wait untill my house has ben burgaled before locking the
door!!
>
>
> Uh, ok. I have no idea what those comments meant (even forgiving the
> typo).
>
> BTW, you really should fix your OE quoting dilemma (as suggested before).
> It's very annoying.
It's not annoying me.
Me fixing OE will not mean your problem is cured.
Other people use OE I believe.
>
> --
> Ed Mullen
> http://edmullen.net
> http://mozilla.edmullen.net
> http://abington.edmullen.net
> As I said before, I never repeat myself.
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-03, 1:14 am |
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"Ed Mullen" <ed@edmullen.net> wrote in message
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> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
>
> Ok, so lemme see if I get this.
>
> You don't know what's going on. Yet you feel obligated to post about your
> fumbling around your system to no effect, right? Ok. Fabulous!!! Thanks
> so much for the help!!!
>
> Look, until you can contribute something substantial and truthful, please
> stop!
>
> I can only conclude that any further posts from you should be totally
> ignored by everyone.
Everyone who is stupid perhaps, but thats not my problem.
My conscience is clear.
>
> --
> Ed Mullen
> http://edmullen.net
> http://mozilla.edmullen.net
> http://abington.edmullen.net
> Marriage changes passion. Suddenly you're in bed with a relative.
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-03, 1:14 am |
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"Ed Mullen" <ed@edmullen.net> wrote in message
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> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
>
>
> Do a Google search for "oe quote fix" (use the quotation marks)
>
> It is not a problem for you because you are using broken software. Your
> software is sending us crap. You'll never see it because your OE is
> broken. Plain enough?
>
> Read, learn. Then post.
It will look into it some time.
It's not a priority for me.
>
> --
> Ed Mullen
> http://edmullen.net
> http://mozilla.edmullen.net
> http://abington.edmullen.net
> Is it time for your medication or mine?
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| Ed Mullen 2007-12-03, 1:14 am |
| Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
> "Ed Mullen" <ed@edmullen.net> wrote in message
> news:paydnTCUaKvHBc7anZ2dnUVZ_ubinZ2d@co
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>
> It will look into it some time.
> It's not a priority for me.
Right. Because you don't understand the problem. It is you who has the
problem and you who is annoying us. Go fix the problem. Not to remedy
anything that plagues you, to fix what your software is inflicting on us.
Learn about Usenet, newsgroups, signatures, OE's horrible flaws, etc.
Then you can comment. Until then you will not be taken seriously. And,
your flaunting of the conventions will be taken as effrontery.
Look it's not that I think you're unintelligent. It's that you clearly
are uniformed. Use your computer and get informed. You've been given
the links and the tools, use them.
--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net
http://mozilla.edmullen.net
http://abington.edmullen.net
Confidence is the feeling you have before you really understand the problem.
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| Ed Mullen 2007-12-03, 1:15 am |
| Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
> "Ed Mullen" <ed@edmullen.net> wrote in message
> news:Xv6dnXh80aeNCM7anZ2dnUVZ_oHinZ2d@co
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>
> Everyone who is stupid perhaps, but thats not my problem.
> My conscience is clear.
>
>
>
See my signature up there above this sentence? That is present because
your software is broken, if you used OE Quote Fix it would have been
automatically stripped out. And you have been kindly notified and
ignored it. So, you are demonstrating that you don't have a clue.
Which, unfortunately for you, clouds everything you say on any topic.
Got it?
--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net
http://mozilla.edmullen.net
http://abington.edmullen.net
Home computers are being called upon to perform many new functions,
including the consumption of homework formerly eaten by the dog. - Doug
Larson
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-03, 1:15 am |
|
"Ed Mullen" <ed@edmullen.net> wrote in message
news:meOdnbm8tdQcOM7anZ2dnUVZ_vqpnZ2d@co
mcast.com...
> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
>
> Right. Because you don't understand the problem. It is you who has the
> problem and you who is annoying us. Go fix the problem. Not to remedy
> anything that plagues you, to fix what your software is inflicting on us.
>
> Learn about Usenet, newsgroups, signatures, OE's horrible flaws, etc. Then
> you can comment. Until then you will not be taken seriously. And, your
> flaunting of the conventions will be taken as effrontery.
And do I have the effrontery to ask if it has such a problem and Microsoft
has billions of dollars compared to my tens of millions why sould I fix
a microsoft problem?
I'm not even on their payroll.
>
> Look it's not that I think you're unintelligent. It's that you clearly
> are uniformed. Use your computer and get informed. You've been given the
> links and the tools, use them.
>
> --
> Ed Mullen
> http://edmullen.net
> http://mozilla.edmullen.net
> http://abington.edmullen.net
> Confidence is the feeling you have before you really understand the
> problem.
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| Ed Mullen 2007-12-03, 1:15 am |
| Ed Mullen wrote:
> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
>
> Right. Because you don't understand the problem. It is you who has the
> problem and you who is annoying us. Go fix the problem. Not to remedy
> anything that plagues you, to fix what your software is inflicting on us.
>
> Learn about Usenet, newsgroups, signatures, OE's horrible flaws, etc.
> Then you can comment. Until then you will not be taken seriously. And,
> your flaunting of the conventions will be taken as effrontery.
>
> Look it's not that I think you're unintelligent. It's that you clearly
> are uniformed. Use your computer and get informed.
Typo: I meant "uninformed."
> You've been given
> the links and the tools, use them.
>
--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net
http://mozilla.edmullen.net
http://abington.edmullen.net
The chance that you'll forget something is directly proportional to ...
to ... uh ...
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| Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo 2007-12-03, 1:15 am |
| Leonidas Jones wrote:
> So far, this is trollish behavior. I hope that is not the case.
you're absolutely right. Most of us here tend to ignore this
poster. After all, what do you expect from a turkey? :-)
--
*IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but messages emailed to me will be
disregarded!!!!
Peter Potamus & His Magic Flying Balloon:
http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm
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| On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 05:54:10 GMT, Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
> "Ed Mullen" <ed@edmullen.net> wrote in message
> news:paydnTCUaKvHBc7anZ2dnUVZ_ubinZ2d@co
mcast.com...
>
> It will look into it some time.
Please do so. If you would like to learn more about news readers and
Usenet or argue about it, ask in the news.software.readers group.
> It's not a priority for me.
It's not a priority for other people to read your messages either, nor
is it for other people using newsreaders that do the right thing wrt
to auto-stripping signatures with a sigdash "-- " to respond and then
need to 'clean up' what you didn't because your newsreader can't.
You are also able to manually delete the signatures while composing
and before sending. Other people's signatures should really only be
quoted and included in your messages if you're are commenting on them.
--
Rom
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-03, 1:12 pm |
|
"Rom" <-@-.invalid> wrote in message
news:xh60pi6hdge1.uncqo3r7t1w0$.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 05:54:10 GMT, Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
>
>
> Please do so. If you would like to learn more about news readers and
> Usenet or argue about it, ask in the news.software.readers group.
>
>
> It's not a priority for other people to read your messages either, nor
> is it for other people using newsreaders that do the right thing wrt
> to auto-stripping signatures with a sigdash "-- " to respond and then
> need to 'clean up' what you didn't because your newsreader can't.
> You are also able to manually delete the signatures while composing
> and before sending. Other people's signatures should really only be
> quoted and included in your messages if you're are commenting on them.
Might be a good idea if you informed microsoft too
http://support.microsoft.com/contactus/?ws=support
>
> --
> Rom
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-03, 1:12 pm |
|
"Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo" <peter.potamus.the.purple.hippo@gmail.com>
wrote in message news:fj0a8u$n32$1@news.albasani.net...
> Leonidas Jones wrote:
>
> you're absolutely right. Most of us here tend to ignore this poster. After
> all, what do you expect from a turkey? :-)
Well as you have identiied your elf as a troll I will ignore u.
>
> --
> *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but messages emailed to me will be
> disregarded!!!!
>
> Peter Potamus & His Magic Flying Balloon:
> http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm
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| Justin 2007-12-03, 1:12 pm |
| Lord Turkey Cough wrote on [Mon, 03 Dec 2007 05:51:59 GMT]:
>
>
> I don't need to wait untill my house has ben burgaled before locking the
> door!!
>
> It's not annoying me.
> Me fixing OE will not mean your problem is cured.
> Other people use OE I believe.
My god you are a XXXXing self righteous tool.
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-03, 1:12 pm |
|
"Justin" <nospam1@insightbb.com> wrote in message
news:slrnfl87v4.s4k.nospam@debian.dns2go.com...
> Lord Turkey Cough wrote on [Mon, 03 Dec 2007 05:51:59 GMT]:
>
> My god you are a XXXXing self righteous tool.
Maybe but I am being asked to download unknow software,
which could potentially be malicious, to fix a problem I don't
have. Also a program which will have access to all my emails etc.
I don't install software on demand.
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| Leonidas Jones 2007-12-03, 1:12 pm |
| Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
/snip/
> I don't need to wait untill my house has ben burgaled before locking the
> door!!
>
> It's not annoying me.
> Me fixing OE will not mean your problem is cured.
> Other people use OE I believe.
/snip/
Doesn't OE have a spell check capability? You do make it very hard to
take you seriously.
Lee
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| Leonidas Jones 2007-12-03, 1:12 pm |
| Ed Mullen wrote:
> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
/snip/[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> See my signature up there above this sentence? That is present because
> your software is broken, if you used OE Quote Fix it would have been
> automatically stripped out. And you have been kindly notified and
> ignored it. So, you are demonstrating that you don't have a clue. Which,
> unfortunately for you, clouds everything you say on any topic. Got it?
>
Ah, its just like the good old days, hey Ed.
I inadvertantly typed "sip" instead of "anip" above. Freudian perhaps,
time to break out the Makers Mark?
Lee
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-03, 1:12 pm |
|
"Leonidas Jones" <Cap1MD@att.net> wrote in message
news:6eX4j.12419$MJ6.9455@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
> /snip/
> /snip/
>
> Doesn't OE have a spell check capability? You do make it very hard to take
> you seriously.
I find I can correct speling as I read it.
>
> Lee
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| Leonidas Jones 2007-12-03, 1:12 pm |
| Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
> "Leonidas Jones" <Cap1MD@att.net> wrote in message
> news:6eX4j.12419$MJ6.9455@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
> I find I can correct speling as I read it.
>
>
>
This is just too funny!
Lee
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| Justin 2007-12-03, 7:11 pm |
| Lord Turkey Cough wrote on [Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:57:13 GMT]:
>
> "Leonidas Jones" <Cap1MD@att.net> wrote in message
> news:6eX4j.12419$MJ6.9455@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
> I find I can correct speling as I read it.
Maybe you should start then.
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| John Thompson 2007-12-03, 7:11 pm |
| On 2007-12-03, Ed Mullen <ed@edmullen.net> wrote:
> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
>
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Well, that's really helpful.
Uninstall Quicktime.
Problem solved.
--
John (john@os2.dhs.org)
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-03, 7:11 pm |
|
"Justin" <turkeytopo@insightbb.com> wrote in message
news:slrnfl8rfd.s4k.nospam@debian.dns2go.com...
> Lord Turkey Cough wrote on [Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:57:13 GMT]:
>
> Maybe you should start then.
I can do it in my head, I don't need to write it down!!!
>
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| elaich 2007-12-03, 7:11 pm |
| Leonidas Jones <Cap1MD@att.net> wrote in news:edL4j.9666$MJ6.875@bgtnsc05-
news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
> By the way, OE Quotefix would be a really, really good idea, if you are
> going to post on Mozilla groups:
So would a spellchacker.
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-03, 7:11 pm |
|
"John Thompson" <john@vector.os2.dhs.org> wrote in message
news:slrnfl8reg.hro.john@vector.os2.dhs.org...
> On 2007-12-03, Ed Mullen <ed@edmullen.net> wrote:
>
>
> Uninstall Quicktime.
>
> Problem solved.
Easier to rename the Quicktime folder, although that might not be quite
as safe, I expct it is.
It's a lot easier that uninstaling and then having to reinstall it again if
you
neeed to use it.
>
> --
>
> John (john@os2.dhs.org)
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| Leonidas Jones wrote:
> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
>
> This is just too funny!
>
> Lee
I promise never, never, never to read any posting by this
amphibious toady foul who started this.
(You, Ed, and others were great attempting to bring wisdom
from this barnyard bird's droppings.)
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-04, 1:14 am |
|
"Dan C" <dan.r.c@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:8w15j.5338$C24.2065@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net...
> Leonidas Jones wrote:
>
> I promise never, never, never to read any posting by this amphibious toady
> foul who started this.
>
> (You, Ed, and others were great attempting to bring wisdom from this
> barnyard bird's droppings.)
Troll Alert!!
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| Ed Mullen 2007-12-04, 1:14 am |
| Leonidas Jones wrote:
> Ed Mullen wrote:
> /snip/
>
> Ah, its just like the good old days, hey Ed.
>
> I inadvertantly typed "sip" instead of "anip" above. Freudian perhaps,
> time to break out the Makers Mark?
>
> Lee
Well, it's actually gotten so darned funny now that I no longer /need/ a
drink. But I think I'll have one anyway! :-D
--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net
http://mozilla.edmullen.net
http://abington.edmullen.net
A husband is someone who takes out the trash and gives the impression he
just cleaned the whole house.
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