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Site advertisments using all my CPU.
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| Uncle Grumpy 2007-12-14, 1:12 pm |
| On Dec 14, 10:21 am, "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamd...@invalid.com> wrote:
> Why are these c*nts stealing my CPU?
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> And more to the point how do I stop it.
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> Some of the sites which might serve as an example
Loaded every site you listed, each in a different tab, no problem.
It's not them, it's your computer.
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| Open Task Manager ..Procesess and see what actually is taking up your
cycles...It also would help to list some specs of your system.
peter
"Lord Turkey Cough" <spamdump@invalid.com> wrote in message
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> It seems on some sites that they can use all my available CPU
> at times, seriously screwing up my computer, I have to close the
> window to stop it.
> Why are these c*nts stealing my CPU?
>
> And more to the point how do I stop it.
>
> Some of the sites which might serve as an example
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> http://uk.weather.com/weather/local...+&code=2fw&y=15
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> http://www.soccerbase.com/players_d...d?playerid=2856
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> And a lot of the tabloid newspapers such as the sun star mirror etc..
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> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/
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> http://www.mirror.co.uk/
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> They don't do it al the time but ofen enough to annoy me.
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> What can I do to stop these b*stards????
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> Sorry about the underlining. (not my fault obviusly)
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> TIA
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-14, 1:12 pm |
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"Uncle Grumpy" <pauld1943@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Dec 14, 10:21 am, "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamd...@invalid.com> wrote:
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> Loaded every site you listed, each in a different tab, no problem.
I do but it is still annoying and soometime they cripple it so it is hard to
close the tab (if you can find it)
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> It's not them, it's your computer.
No it is them they are in a word B*STARDS, they know what they are doing to
my
computer and do it initentinally.
I hope they go to hell.
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-14, 1:12 pm |
| It's a semperon 3000+ with Radeon exppress 2000 onboard
graphics ('fairly' new computer).
I want to stop the problem happening in the first place, I know
how to stop it, I have done that hundreds of times and I am
fed up with it.
"peter" <peterk@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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> Open Task Manager ..Procesess and see what actually is taking up your
> cycles...It also would help to list some specs of your system.
> peter
> "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamdump@invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:l4y8j.6495$ov2.2845@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
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| TheCroW 2007-12-14, 1:12 pm |
| Did visit the sites you mentioned (I have Firefox 2.0.0.11 on Windows XP
Home SP2 Dutch version) and I have no other CPU load then normal. Not even a
spike in CPU usage when going to those links.
I did have serious CPU load troubles though with the previous version of
Firefox. Don't know which version you have?
Menno
> It seems on some sites that they can use all my available CPU
> at times, seriously screwing up my computer, I have to close the
> window to stop it.
> Why are these c*nts stealing my CPU?
>
> And more to the point how do I stop it.
>
> Some of the sites which might serve as an example
>
> http://uk.weather.com/weather/local...+&code=2fw&y=15
>
> http://www.soccerbase.com/players_d...d?playerid=2856
>
> And a lot of the tabloid newspapers such as the sun star mirror etc..
>
> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/
>
> http://www.mirror.co.uk/
>
> They don't do it al the time but ofen enough to annoy me.
>
> What can I do to stop these b*stards????
>
>
> Sorry about the underlining. (not my fault obviusly)
>
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> TIA
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| Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
> It seems on some sites that they can use all my available CPU
> at times, seriously screwing up my computer, I have to close the
> window to stop it.
> Why are these c*nts stealing my CPU?
>
> And more to the point how do I stop it.
>
> Some of the sites which might serve as an example
>
> http://uk.weather.com/weather/local...+&code=2fw&y=15
>
> http://www.soccerbase.com/players_d...d?playerid=2856
>
> And a lot of the tabloid newspapers such as the sun star mirror etc..
>
> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/
>
> http://www.mirror.co.uk/
>
> They don't do it al the time but ofen enough to annoy me.
>
> What can I do to stop these b*stards????
>
>
> Sorry about the underlining. (not my fault obviusly)
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> TIA
One trick I use, is I remove the Adobe Flash plugin from my
Firefox plugins. That means no Flash adverts can play in
Firefox. If I really need to review a site that uses
Flash, I do it in Explorer. I leave the Flash plugin installed
there.
In your soccerbase.com example, that loaded my CPU to 25%, due to
the scrolling things on either side of the page. For the uk.weather.com,
that registered pretty close to 0% on my computer. (P4 3.1GHz).
On the mirror.co.uk page, the "Latest News" thing near the top of the
page, is an animated image. When that bar updates, it uses 25% of
my CPU. Once the text finishes updating, CPU drops to 0%.
So you can use my Flash plugin trick, and try again.
The files I have in my junk directory, are "npswf32.dll" and
"NPSWF32_FlashUtil.exe". I presume they must have been in my
Firefox plugins directory at one time.
Paul
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-14, 1:12 pm |
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"TheCroW" <news@nospam3dart4u.com> wrote in message
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> Did visit the sites you mentioned (I have Firefox 2.0.0.11 on Windows XP
> Home SP2 Dutch version) and I have no other CPU load then normal. Not even
> a spike in CPU usage when going to those links.
> I did have serious CPU load troubles though with the previous version of
> Firefox. Don't know which version you have?
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071127
Firefox/2.0.0.11
It is intermittant, happens occasionally when I have lots of tabs open
then one tab becomes problematic and pushes the cpu to 100.
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> Menno
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-14, 1:12 pm |
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"Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message news:fjug17$n62$1@aioe.org...
> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
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> One trick I use, is I remove the Adobe Flash plugin from my
> Firefox plugins. That means no Flash adverts can play in
> Firefox. If I really need to review a site that uses
> Flash, I do it in Explorer. I leave the Flash plugin installed
> there.
>
> In your soccerbase.com example, that loaded my CPU to 25%, due to
> the scrolling things on either side of the page. For the uk.weather.com,
> that registered pretty close to 0% on my computer. (P4 3.1GHz).
Yes that Soccorbase uses about 50% CPU, the weather one is intermittant
it is low now but sometimes it pushes the CPU to 100%, it might depend
on the advertisment.
How do i remove the plugins specifically.
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> On the mirror.co.uk page, the "Latest News" thing near the top of the
> page, is an animated image. When that bar updates, it uses 25% of
> my CPU. Once the text finishes updating, CPU drops to 0%.
>
> So you can use my Flash plugin trick, and try again.
>
> The files I have in my junk directory, are "npswf32.dll" and
> "NPSWF32_FlashUtil.exe". I presume they must have been in my
> Firefox plugins directory at one time.
>
> Paul
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| Andy Luddy 2007-12-14, 1:12 pm |
| Lord Turkey Cough wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> "Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message news:fjug17$n62$1@aioe.org...
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> Yes that Soccorbase uses about 50% CPU, the weather one is intermittant
> it is low now but sometimes it pushes the CPU to 100%, it might depend
> on the advertisment.
> How do i remove the plugins specifically.
>
If it is a Flash animation issue, are you using the Flashblock
extension? It blocks Flash from running until you click on a "Play"
button (the traditional right-pointing triangle), which would seem
easier to do that disabling Flash entirely and using IE when you need to
see Flash.
Andy
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| Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
> "Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message news:fjug17$n62$1@aioe.org...
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> Yes that Soccorbase uses about 50% CPU, the weather one is intermittant
> it is low now but sometimes it pushes the CPU to 100%, it might depend
> on the advertisment.
> How do i remove the plugins specifically.
>
>
Search for a "plugins" folder on your computer. It might be -
C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\plugins
Look for the named files. Move the npswf32.dll file out of
the plugins, and store it in another folder on your C: drive.
I moved the NPSWF32_FlashUtil.exe, but I don't know if that
one is as critical or not.
Note that web pages can be quite flexible. A lot of sites,
once they discover you don't have Flash installed, they will
substitute animated GIF images instead. So you won't get relief
from all forms of advertising.
To see what plugins are active, go to the place you type
URLs in Firefox and enter
about :plugins
That is how I check that the plugin has been successfully moved.
You'd have to quit Firefox and start a copy running again,
then do the "about :plugins" thing, to see that it has been
removed as an active plugin.
There is also a tool called "Flashblock", but I haven't tested
this. What this does, is allow the Flash stuff to download,
but then the window where the flash would go is blanked out.
The advantage of this, is the web page code shouldn't substitute
animated GIFs in place of the Flash (because it thinks you are
seeing the Flash advertising).
http://flashblock.mozdev.org/installation1.html
I'm happy enough with my current solution, because on the most
annoying sites, the blinking and flashing is more subdued than
it used to be. But I haven't completely killed the advertising,
and they can still use animated GIFs if they want.
As far as I know, if you run the Flash installer again, it will
install flash on all the browsers it can find. So if that happens,
I'd have to pull the DLL and whatever else out of the plugins
folder, yet again.
Paul
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| Uncle Grumpy 2007-12-14, 1:12 pm |
| On Dec 14, 12:01 pm, "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamd...@invalid.com> wrote:
> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071127
> Firefox/2.0.0.11
Like I said: it's at your end.
I'm using IE7 and can't duplicate.
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| Hawkeye 2007-12-14, 7:11 pm |
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>There is also a tool called "Flashblock", but I haven't tested
>this. What this does, is allow the Flash stuff to download,
>but then the window where the flash would go is blanked out.
>The advantage of this, is the web page code shouldn't substitute
>animated GIFs in place of the Flash (because it thinks you are
>seeing the Flash advertising).
>
>http://flashblock.mozdev.org/installation1.html
I second the motion on Flashblock. I use it and it works quite well.
You may also want to look into advert blockers such as Adblock or
Privoxy, or even the NoScript javascript blocker.
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-14, 7:11 pm |
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"Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message news:fjujvt$2ft$1@aioe.org...
> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
>
> Search for a "plugins" folder on your computer. It might be -
> C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\plugins
>
> Look for the named files. Move the npswf32.dll file out of
> the plugins, and store it in another folder on your C: drive.
> I moved the NPSWF32_FlashUtil.exe, but I don't know if that
> one is as critical or not.
>
> Note that web pages can be quite flexible. A lot of sites,
> once they discover you don't have Flash installed, they will
> substitute animated GIF images instead. So you won't get relief
> from all forms of advertising.
>
> To see what plugins are active, go to the place you type
> URLs in Firefox and enter
>
> about :plugins
Seems rather comlicated and low level.
I thouoght it might have a menu todo such things for you.
I believe Internet Explorer does.
>
> That is how I check that the plugin has been successfully moved.
> You'd have to quit Firefox and start a copy running again,
> then do the "about :plugins" thing, to see that it has been
> removed as an active plugin.
>
> There is also a tool called "Flashblock", but I haven't tested
> this. What this does, is allow the Flash stuff to download,
> but then the window where the flash would go is blanked out.
> The advantage of this, is the web page code shouldn't substitute
> animated GIFs in place of the Flash (because it thinks you are
> seeing the Flash advertising).
>
> http://flashblock.mozdev.org/installation1.html
>
> I'm happy enough with my current solution, because on the most
> annoying sites, the blinking and flashing is more subdued than
> it used to be. But I haven't completely killed the advertising,
> and they can still use animated GIFs if they want.
>
> As far as I know, if you run the Flash installer again, it will
> install flash on all the browsers it can find. So if that happens,
> I'd have to pull the DLL and whatever else out of the plugins
> folder, yet again.
Yes it seems a bit of a 'chore'.
Thinking about it is sites which use advertisinig which screw things
up. However some seem to be OK, for example Utube, I don't
recall that ever being a problem. However if I do hit a problem
I know it will be one of the 'usual suspects' sites.
Anyway I have found something which might help
http://www.download3k.com/Antivirus...ds-Blocker.html
I have not tried it yet though.
Posible I might have some sort of malware but I have never had anything
reported
by AVG
>
> Paul
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-14, 7:11 pm |
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"Andy Luddy" <aluddy001@roadrunner.com> wrote in message
news:4762d26a$0$2494$4c368faf@roadrunner
.com...
> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
>
> If it is a Flash animation issue, are you using the Flashblock extension?
> It blocks Flash from running until you click on a "Play" button (the
> traditional right-pointing triangle), which would seem easier to do that
> disabling Flash entirely and using IE when you need to see Flash.
>
Not sure what you are talking about.
> Andy
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-14, 7:11 pm |
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"Uncle Grumpy" <pauld1943@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Dec 14, 12:01 pm, "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamd...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
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> Like I said: it's at your end.
I have not written any software at my end :O)
So it can't be my fault :O|
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> I'm using IE7 and can't duplicate.
I believe I had much the same problem with IE
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-14, 7:11 pm |
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"Uncle Grumpy" <pauld1943@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Dec 14, 12:01 pm, "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamd...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
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> Like I said: it's at your end.
>
> I'm using IE7 and can't duplicate.
It is not easy to duplicate you would need to berunning for a couple of
hours or
more.
Anyway this looks promising
http://momentarypause.blogspot.com/...cpu-issues.html
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-14, 7:11 pm |
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"Lord Turkey Cough" <spamdump@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:l4y8j.6495$ov2.2845@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> It seems on some sites that they can use all my available CPU
> at times, seriously screwing up my computer, I have to close the
> window to stop it.
> Why are these c*nts stealing my CPU?
>
> And more to the point how do I stop it.
>
> Some of the sites which might serve as an example
>
> http://uk.weather.com/weather/local...+&code=2fw&y=15
>
> http://www.soccerbase.com/players_d...d?playerid=2856
>
> And a lot of the tabloid newspapers such as the sun star mirror etc..
>
> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/
>
> http://www.mirror.co.uk/
>
> They don't do it al the time but ofen enough to annoy me.
>
> What can I do to stop these b*stards????
>
>
> Sorry about the underlining. (not my fault obviusly)
Seems like the easiest soluution in the long run would be to write my
own browser, plug ins and Java and operating system.
>
>
> TIA
>
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| Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
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> Seems like the easiest soluution in the long run would be to write my
> own browser, plug ins and Java and operating system.
>
You can do that. They released the source to netscape years ago, and
you could use that as your code base. I've got a copy of the source
somewhere.
Something a little simpler, might be to try another browser.
I haven't looked at Opera for a few years, but if you're bored,
try this out. Even if this doesn't work properly with every site,
maybe you'll get some value from it.
http://www.opera.com/
Paul
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| John Thompson 2007-12-14, 7:11 pm |
| ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.fan.mozilla.]
On 2007-12-14, Lord Turkey Cough <spamdump@invalid.com> wrote:
> It seems on some sites that they can use all my available CPU
> at times, seriously screwing up my computer, I have to close the
> window to stop it.
Use the NoScript extension to allow only the scripts you need to run.
http://noscript.net
--
John (john@os2.dhs.org)
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-14, 7:11 pm |
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"Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message news:fjv1lj$8t0$1@aioe.org...
> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
>
>
> You can do that. They released the source to netscape years ago, and
> you could use that as your code base. I've got a copy of the source
> somewhere.
>
> Something a little simpler, might be to try another browser.
> I haven't looked at Opera for a few years, but if you're bored,
> try this out. Even if this doesn't work properly with every site,
> maybe you'll get some value from it.
Actually it seems the problem is not so much the browser but the add-ons.
You would have to make the browser do what the add ons should do.
But disabling adds would be a good idea, afterall who wants them anyway.
>
> http://www.opera.com/
>
> Paul
>
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| Uncle Grumpy 2007-12-14, 7:11 pm |
| On Dec 14, 4:47 pm, "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamd...@invalid.com> wrote:
> "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamd...@invalid.com> wrote in messagenews:l4y8j.6495$ov2.2845@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> Seems like the easiest soluution in the long run would be to write my
> own browser, plug ins and Java and operating system.
If that would get you outta here, I wish you nothing but the best.
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| Lord Turkey Cough 2007-12-14, 7:11 pm |
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"Uncle Grumpy" <pauld1943@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c5668c4c-4820-413e-a5db-878259945126@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 14, 4:47 pm, "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamd...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>
> If that would get you outta here, I wish you nothing but the best.
Grumpy git.
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| Uncle Grumpy wrote:
> On Dec 14, 4:47 pm, "Lord Turkey Cough" <spamd...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
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> If that would get you outta here, I wish you nothing but the best.
Uncle,
Sorry, a waste, too subtle.
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| Miller 2007-12-16, 1:14 am |
| *John Thompson* wrote:
> ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.fan.mozilla.]
>
> On 2007-12-14, Lord Turkey Cough <spamdump@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>
> Use the NoScript extension to allow only the scripts you need to run.
>
> http://noscript.net
Or use Adblock Plus to suppress over 90% of the advertisement in
the Net. You can combine it with NoScript too.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865
cu, Miller
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| Andy J. 2007-12-16, 7:12 pm |
| Paul wrote:
> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
>
>
> You can do that. They released the source to netscape years ago, and
> you could use that as your code base. I've got a copy of the source
> somewhere.
>
> Something a little simpler, might be to try another browser.
> I haven't looked at Opera for a few years, but if you're bored,
> try this out. Even if this doesn't work properly with every site,
> maybe you'll get some value from it.
>
> http://www.opera.com/
>
> Paul
>
I just tried both the Sun and Daily Mirror sites at the same
time with two machines, one running Firefox under Linux and the
other using Opera under MS Vista. The Linux machine was running
with 85%+ CPU usage all the time while the Vista machine shot up
to 90% initially but dropped back to 15% (even though both sites
were still being displayed). I then tried Opera on the Linux
machine and had similar results to Opera on Windows. Looks like
Opera handles the ad's on those sites better than Firefox.
Andy J.
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| John Thompson 2007-12-16, 7:12 pm |
| On 2007-12-16, Andy J. <andrew@pcy.net> wrote:
> I just tried both the Sun and Daily Mirror sites at the same
> time with two machines, one running Firefox under Linux and the
> other using Opera under MS Vista. The Linux machine was running
> with 85%+ CPU usage all the time while the Vista machine shot up
> to 90% initially but dropped back to 15% (even though both sites
> were still being displayed). I then tried Opera on the Linux
> machine and had similar results to Opera on Windows. Looks like
> Opera handles the ad's on those sites better than Firefox.
I tried the sites with Firefox-2.0.0.11 and NoScript and got results
very similar to what you report using Opera.
Opera's a very nice browser, but it doesn't have the flexibility or
extensibility that Firefox has. That's why I prefer Firefox.
--
John (john@os2.dhs.org)
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