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| Patrick Farrell 2005-09-07, 5:46 pm |
| Not sure if this is the appropriate place to post a question about the
web search engine bundled with Netware.. (6.5 SP2 in this case).
If you seach a site for say "investigator", it will not trip on
"investigators".
Any way to change this behaviour?
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| Anders Gustafsson 2005-09-07, 5:46 pm |
| Patrick Farrell,
> Any way to change this behaviour?
>
No. Not unless you set up an alias list or change the search to
"investigator*"
- Anders Gustafsson, Engineer, CNE6, ASE
NSC Volunteer Sysop
Pedago, The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)
Novell does not monitor these forums officially.
Enhancement requests for all Novell products may be made at
http://support.novell.com/enhancement
Using VA 5.51 build 315 on Windows 2000 build 2195
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| Patrick Farrell 2005-09-07, 5:46 pm |
| Anders Gustafsson wrote:
> Patrick Farrell,
>
>
> No. Not unless you set up an alias list or change the search to
> "investigator*"
>
> - Anders Gustafsson, Engineer, CNE6, ASE
> NSC Volunteer Sysop
> Pedago, The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)
>
> Novell does not monitor these forums officially.
> Enhancement requests for all Novell products may be made at
> http://support.novell.com/enhancement
>
> Using VA 5.51 build 315 on Windows 2000 build 2195
>
Bummer. I have a search box in our website that uses the netware search
engine and visitors accustomed to any major internet search engine are
not going to know to put *.
I guess I could write a php script that takes the input lines and does
*word* and then feeds that in 
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| Anders Gustafsson 2005-09-07, 5:46 pm |
| Patrick Farrell,
> Bummer. I have a search box in our website that uses the netware search
> engine and visitors accustomed to any major internet search engine are
> not going to know to put *.
>
> I guess I could write a php script that takes the input lines and does
> *word* and then feeds that in
>
Or just do some javascript in the input page.
- Anders Gustafsson, Engineer, CNE6, ASE
NSC Volunteer Sysop
Pedago, The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)
Novell does not monitor these forums officially.
Enhancement requests for all Novell products may be made at
http://support.novell.com/enhancement
Using VA 5.51 build 315 on Windows 2000 build 2195
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| Patrick Farrell 2005-09-08, 5:46 pm |
| Anders Gustafsson wrote:
> Patrick Farrell,
>
>
> Or just do some javascript in the input page.
>
> - Anders Gustafsson, Engineer, CNE6, ASE
> NSC Volunteer Sysop
> Pedago, The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)
>
> Novell does not monitor these forums officially.
> Enhancement requests for all Novell products may be made at
> http://support.novell.com/enhancement
>
> Using VA 5.51 build 315 on Windows 2000 build 2195
>
If you are volunteering said script, I'll try it
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| Anders Gustafsson 2005-09-08, 5:46 pm |
| Patrick Farrell,
> If you are volunteering said script, I'll try it
>
:P
Let me see if I can dig something up tomorrow...
- Anders Gustafsson, Engineer, CNE6, ASE
NSC Volunteer Sysop
Pedago, The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)
Novell does not monitor these forums officially.
Enhancement requests for all Novell products may be made at
http://support.novell.com/enhancement
Using VA 5.51 build 315 on Windows 2000 build 2195
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| Anders Gustafsson 2005-09-08, 5:46 pm |
| You could try something in the SearchTemplate.html, in the function
doQuery(), before earchForm.submit();, you do a:
SearchForm.query0.value = SearchForm.query0.value+"*";
It might work...
- Anders Gustafsson, Engineer, CNE6, ASE
NSC Volunteer Sysop
Pedago, The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)
Novell does not monitor these forums officially.
Enhancement requests for all Novell products may be made at
http://support.novell.com/enhancement
Using VA 5.51 build 315 on Windows 2000 build 2195
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| Patrick Farrell 2005-09-08, 5:46 pm |
| Anders Gustafsson wrote:
> You could try something in the SearchTemplate.html, in the function
> doQuery(), before earchForm.submit();, you do a:
>
> SearchForm.query0.value = SearchForm.query0.value+"*";
>
> It might work...
>
> - Anders Gustafsson, Engineer, CNE6, ASE
> NSC Volunteer Sysop
> Pedago, The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)
>
> Novell does not monitor these forums officially.
> Enhancement requests for all Novell products may be made at
> http://support.novell.com/enhancement
>
> Using VA 5.51 build 315 on Windows 2000 build 2195
>
the problem I see with that is with multiple words it would just append
the * to the second word, assuming I read that correctly?
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| Anders Gustafsson 2005-09-09, 2:45 am |
| Patrick Farrell,
> the problem I see with that is with multiple words it would just append
> the * to the second word, assuming I read that correctly?
>
Yes, but you could easily expand the code. That part is left as an
exercise to the reader ;)
- Anders Gustafsson, Engineer, CNE6, ASE
NSC Volunteer Sysop
Pedago, The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)
Novell does not monitor these forums officially.
Enhancement requests for all Novell products may be made at
http://support.novell.com/enhancement
Using VA 5.51 build 315 on Windows 2000 build 2195
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| Patrick Farrell 2005-09-09, 5:45 pm |
| Anders Gustafsson wrote:
> Patrick Farrell,
>
>
> Yes, but you could easily expand the code. That part is left as an
> exercise to the reader ;)
>
> - Anders Gustafsson, Engineer, CNE6, ASE
> NSC Volunteer Sysop
> Pedago, The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)
>
> Novell does not monitor these forums officially.
> Enhancement requests for all Novell products may be made at
> http://support.novell.com/enhancement
>
> Using VA 5.51 build 315 on Windows 2000 build 2195
>
FYI upgrading to SP4 breaks web search. Not sure why yet but it will no
longer take my url from my website. I have a dns entry that was
search.mydomain.com which just pointed to the server.mydomain.com. If I
substitute server.mydomain.com back into the string it works, even
though the two are going to the same place. Hmmmm. More research
needed It's also now Quick Finder server rather than Netware Search.
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| Patrick Farrell 2005-09-09, 5:45 pm |
| >>
> FYI upgrading to SP4 breaks web search. Not sure why yet but it will no
> longer take my url from my website. I have a dns entry that was
> search.mydomain.com which just pointed to the server.mydomain.com. If I
> substitute server.mydomain.com back into the string it works, even
> though the two are going to the same place. Hmmmm. More research
> needed It's also now Quick Finder server rather than Netware Search.
I deleted my search site, and then re-created it and now it's ok. It
was complaining about missing template files after the sp4 upgrade.
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| Anders Gustafsson 2005-09-09, 5:45 pm |
| Patrick Farrell,
> I deleted my search site, and then re-created it and now it's ok. It
> was complaining about missing template files after the sp4 upgrade.
>
OK.
- Anders Gustafsson, Engineer, CNE6, ASE
NSC Volunteer Sysop
Pedago, The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)
Novell does not monitor these forums officially.
Enhancement requests for all Novell products may be made at
http://support.novell.com/enhancement
Using VA 5.51 build 315 on Windows 2000 build 2195
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| Patrick Farrell 2005-09-09, 5:45 pm |
| Anders Gustafsson wrote:
> You could try something in the SearchTemplate.html, in the function
> doQuery(), before earchForm.submit();, you do a:
>
> SearchForm.query0.value = SearchForm.query0.value+"*";
>
> It might work...
>
> - Anders Gustafsson, Engineer, CNE6, ASE
> NSC Volunteer Sysop
> Pedago, The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)
>
> Novell does not monitor these forums officially.
> Enhancement requests for all Novell products may be made at
> http://support.novell.com/enhancement
>
> Using VA 5.51 build 315 on Windows 2000 build 2195
>
That does work in the advanced search.. However when I call it from my
website I have:
<form name="SearchForm" method="get"
action="http://search.mysite.com/NSearch/SearchServlet">
Does that actually run through a template then? I don't believe so?
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| Anders Gustafsson 2005-09-09, 5:45 pm |
| Patrick Farrell,
> That does work in the advanced search.. However when I call it from my
> website I have:
> <form name="SearchForm" method="get"
> action="http://search.mysite.com/NSearch/SearchServlet">
>
> Does that actually run through a template then? I don't believe so?
>
No, you need to catch the OK click with some Java code
- Anders Gustafsson, Engineer, CNE6, ASE
NSC Volunteer Sysop
Pedago, The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)
Novell does not monitor these forums officially.
Enhancement requests for all Novell products may be made at
http://support.novell.com/enhancement
Using VA 5.51 build 315 on Windows 2000 build 2195
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| dbauhaus@gmail.com 2005-09-14, 5:46 pm |
| Patrick, if you need search software which does stemming, try Coveo
Enterprise Search. We search file servers, web servers, Exchange,
SharePoint, Lotus Notes, and recently we added secure search for Novell
Netware volumes. Our great
relevance, security out of the box, View as HTML/Cached copy, concepts
and summary, Refine Search, full boolean, and other great features are
included for content on Netware drives.
-Dan
Coveo
Patrick Farrell wrote:
> Not sure if this is the appropriate place to post a question about the
> web search engine bundled with Netware.. (6.5 SP2 in this case).
>
> If you seach a site for say "investigator", it will not trip on
> "investigators".
>
> Any way to change this behaviour?
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| Anders Gustafsson 2005-09-14, 5:46 pm |
| ,
> try Coveo
> Enterprise Search.
>
I assume there is price involved, right?
- Anders Gustafsson, Engineer, CNE6, ASE
NSC Volunteer Sysop
Pedago, The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)
Novell does not monitor these forums officially.
Enhancement requests for all Novell products may be made at
http://support.novell.com/enhancement
Using VA 5.51 build 315 on Windows 2000 build 2195
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| Patrick Farrell 2005-09-14, 5:46 pm |
| Anders Gustafsson wrote:
> ,
>
>
> I assume there is price involved, right?
>
That's what we liked about Netware Search server.
I had talked to the search guys at brainshare this year and they told me
that they were considering it.
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| Anders Gustafsson 2005-09-15, 2:45 am |
| Patrick Farrell,
> I had talked to the search guys at brainshare this year and they told me
> that they were considering it.
>
They are extremely hepful and responsive. I have sum a enealogy search on
NW6 for three years without a hich. Moved it to QF/6.5 this spring and it
keeps on running.
Anyway. Please see:
http://www.pedago.fi/products/utils/Patrick.htm
Feel free to use the source.
- Anders Gustafsson, Engineer, CNE6, ASE
NSC Volunteer Sysop
Pedago, The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)
Novell does not monitor these forums officially.
Enhancement requests for all Novell products may be made at
http://support.novell.com/enhancement
Using VA 5.51 build 315 on Windows 2000 build 2195
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| Anders Gustafsson 2005-09-15, 7:45 am |
| Patrick Farrell,
> I had talked to the search guys at brainshare this year and they told
me
> that they were considering it.
>
They are extremely hepful and responsive. I have rum a enealogy search
on NW6 for three years without a hich. Moved it to QF/6.5 this spring
and it keeps on running.The new QuickFinder is simply awesome!
Anyway. Please see:
http://www.pedago.fi/products/utils/Patrick.htm
Feel free to use the source.
- Anders Gustafsson, Engineer, CNE6, ASE
NSC Volunteer Sysop
Pedago, The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)
Novell does not monitor these forums officially.
Enhancement requests for all Novell products may be made at
http://support.novell.com/enhancement
Using VA 5.51 build 315 on Windows 2000 build 2195
- Anders Gustafsson, Engineer, CNE6, ASE
NSC Volunteer Sysop
Pedago, The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)
Novell does not monitor these forums officially.
Enhancement requests for all Novell products may be made at
http://support.novell.com/enhancement
Using VA 5.51 build 315 on Windows 2000 build 2195
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| Patrick Farrell 2005-09-15, 5:49 pm |
| Anders Gustafsson wrote:
> Patrick Farrell,
>
>
> me
>
>
> They are extremely hepful and responsive. I have rum a enealogy search
> on NW6 for three years without a hich. Moved it to QF/6.5 this spring
> and it keeps on running.The new QuickFinder is simply awesome!
>
> Anyway. Please see:
> http://www.pedago.fi/products/utils/Patrick.htm
>
> Feel free to use the source.
>
> - Anders Gustafsson, Engineer, CNE6, ASE
> NSC Volunteer Sysop
> Pedago, The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)
>
> Novell does not monitor these forums officially.
> Enhancement requests for all Novell products may be made at
> http://support.novell.com/enhancement
>
> Using VA 5.51 build 315 on Windows 2000 build 2195
>
> - Anders Gustafsson, Engineer, CNE6, ASE
> NSC Volunteer Sysop
> Pedago, The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)
>
> Novell does not monitor these forums officially.
> Enhancement requests for all Novell products may be made at
> http://support.novell.com/enhancement
>
> Using VA 5.51 build 315 on Windows 2000 build 2195
>
Anders,
I can't thank you enough. One small issue, if the user hits enter rather
than clicking the button, it doesn't call the function. I figured out
how to make it do that.
Instead of the onClick I did onSubmit="doSubmit();" in the form declaration
form name="MyForm" method="get"
action="http://search.mysite.com/NSearch/SearchServlet"
onSubmit="doSubmit();"
input size=15 input type="text" name="query0"
INPUT TYPE='IMAGE' src=/images/searchImages/goButton.jpg alt='GO'
width="24" height="19" border='0'
INPUT TYPE="HIDDEN" NAME="site" VALUE="www.mysite.com"
INPUT TYPE="HIDDEN" NAME="encoding" VALUE="ISO-8859-1"
/FORM
I also changed the javascript slightly to add * on each side of the word
instead of just the end of the word.
Out = Out + "*" + arry[i]+"* "
But seriously, thank you. Coding a test page for me was way above and
beyond what I consider normal support.
Patrick
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| Anders Gustafsson 2005-09-15, 5:49 pm |
| Patrick Farrell,
> But seriously, thank you. Coding a test page for me was way above and
> beyond what I consider normal support.
>
Thanks.
- Anders Gustafsson, Engineer, CNE6, ASE
NSC Volunteer Sysop
Pedago, The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)
Novell does not monitor these forums officially.
Enhancement requests for all Novell products may be made at
http://support.novell.com/enhancement
Using VA 5.51 build 315 on Windows 2000 build 2195
| |
| Patrick Farrell 2005-09-15, 5:49 pm |
| Anders Gustafsson wrote:
> Patrick Farrell,
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> - Anders Gustafsson, Engineer, CNE6, ASE
> NSC Volunteer Sysop
> Pedago, The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)
>
> Novell does not monitor these forums officially.
> Enhancement requests for all Novell products may be made at
> http://support.novell.com/enhancement
>
> Using VA 5.51 build 315 on Windows 2000 build 2195
>
Might make a good TID or cool solution.
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| Anders Gustafsson 2005-09-15, 5:49 pm |
| Patrick Farrell,
> Might make a good TID or cool solution.
>
It is already written ;) Should be visible by tomorrow.
- Anders Gustafsson, Engineer, CNE6, ASE
NSC Volunteer Sysop
Pedago, The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)
Novell does not monitor these forums officially.
Enhancement requests for all Novell products may be made at
http://support.novell.com/enhancement
Using VA 5.51 build 315 on Windows 2000 build 2195
| |
| dbauhaus@gmail.com 2005-09-16, 5:54 pm |
| Responding to the question about price, Coveo Enterprise Search is free
for up to 5000 documents (it's the full product). Above that, our
pricing is posted on our website, and is very reasonable considering
the caliber of the product.
-Dan
Patrick Farrell wrote:
> Not sure if this is the appropriate place to post a question about the
> web search engine bundled with Netware.. (6.5 SP2 in this case).
>
> If you seach a site for say "investigator", it will not trip on
> "investigators".
>
> Any way to change this behaviour?
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| Anders Gustafsson 2005-09-17, 2:45 am |
| ,
> Responding to the question about price, Coveo Enterprise Search is free
> for up to 5000 documents (it's the full product)
>
Nice. It does need a Windows server though. QuickFinder runs on NetWare
and Linux. Different target audiences I guess.
- Anders Gustafsson, Engineer, CNE6, ASE
NSC Volunteer Sysop
Pedago, The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)
Novell does not monitor these forums officially.
Enhancement requests for all Novell products may be made at
http://support.novell.com/enhancement
Using VA 5.51 build 315 on Windows 2000 build 2195
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