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Simon Lord

2005-10-26, 5:45 pm

I have a question about FLV streams and Flash projectors. Using PHP
I can request the browser on the client to not save the cached
files. I have this much working and it's fairly straight forward.

The question though, is how does a projector handle this? I've never
really stopped to think about how the projector deals with its cached
files until now (client wants exe's). I just need to make sure these
cached files don't get stored permanently (for now, forget about
dealing with the crafty buggers that look at the cache while using
the tool).

Thanks.

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Barrett

2005-10-26, 5:45 pm

LiveDocs says:
Although Flash Player will delete the local copy of the FLV file that it
creates, a copy of the video may persist in the browser's cache directory.
If prevention of caching is required, use Flash Communication Server MX.

But I've found this to work when loading SWF's and FLV's
(video.flv?" + *random*(99999));

On 10/26/05, Simon Lord <slord-1+jUDDTtyItWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> I have a question about FLV streams and Flash projectors. Using PHP
> I can request the browser on the client to not save the cached
> files. I have this much working and it's fairly straight forward.
>
> The question though, is how does a projector handle this? I've never
> really stopped to think about how the projector deals with its cached
> files until now (client wants exe's). I just need to make sure these
> cached files don't get stored permanently (for now, forget about
> dealing with the crafty buggers that look at the cache while using
> the tool).
>
> Thanks.
>
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Simon Lord

2005-10-26, 5:45 pm

Yeah, except I have the same issues as everyone else when it comes to
FMS and streaming on-demand video to the masses. So I'm not
contemplating that just yet. But I am keeping my eye on Red5 (http://
osflash.org/red5) as it's a viable option for this particular project.

For the time being I'm simply loading an FLV and want to use whatever
options are open to me to prevent caching on the client side.

Thanks for the info.


On Oct 26, 2005, at 6:06 PM, Barrett wrote:

> LiveDocs says:
> Although Flash Player will delete the local copy of the FLV file
> that it
> creates, a copy of the video may persist in the browser's cache
> directory.
> If prevention of caching is required, use Flash Communication
> Server MX.
>
> But I've found this to work when loading SWF's and FLV's
> (video.flv?" + *random*(99999));
>
> On 10/26/05, Simon Lord <slord-1+jUDDTtyItWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>
>
>
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Barrett

2005-10-26, 8:45 pm

Stopping cache on client side of a file loaded from inside flash might be
tricky.

Here are some documents related to cache, one option is in the meta tags an=
d
another deals with .htaccess file of the web directory, I am not sure if
they will help you out though as I have not tried them.

http://www.mnot.net/cache_docs/
http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/k...m?id=3Dtn_14743
http://www.communitymx.com/content/...3D1&cid=3D827EA

Barrett

On 10/26/05, Simon Lord <slord-1+jUDDTtyItWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> Yeah, except I have the same issues as everyone else when it comes to
> FMS and streaming on-demand video to the masses. So I'm not
> contemplating that just yet. But I am keeping my eye on Red5 (http://
> osflash.org/red5) <http://osflash.org/red5)> as it's a viable option for
> this particular project.
>
> For the time being I'm simply loading an FLV and want to use whatever
> options are open to me to prevent caching on the client side.
>
> Thanks for the info.
>
>
> On Oct 26, 2005, at 6:06 PM, Barrett wrote:
>
>
>
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Ramses Moreno [cuatromedios]

2005-10-29, 2:45 am

But if you are using an EXE projector, Im pretty sure the files wont
be cached, that is a browser feature and running flash in a projector
mode I think nobody is going to cache it.

2005/10/26, Barrett <mailbin-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>:
> Stopping cache on client side of a file loaded from inside flash might be
> tricky.
>
> Here are some documents related to cache, one option is in the meta tags =

and
> another deals with .htaccess file of the web directory, I am not sure if
> they will help you out though as I have not tried them.
>
> http://www.mnot.net/cache_docs/
> http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/k...m?id=3Dtn_14743
> http://www.communitymx.com/content/...3D1&cid=3D827EA
>
> Barrett
>
> On 10/26/05, Simon Lord <slord-1+jUDDTtyItWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
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Jayson K Hanes

2005-10-29, 2:45 am

Projector based flash movies definitely DO cache files on the hard
drive.. Just not in internet explorer's cache space.

If in doubt, rename an swf file on your webspace to something very
unique, have an swf exe loadmovie it on your pc, then do a file search
for it.

If its rendered, its stored somewhere unless truly streamed.
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