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| Bill Sanders 2005-11-12, 7:45 am |
| I have found that the audio (in) on my Mac turns into a growl if the
mic rate from incoming streams is set to 8kHz. As erroneously
believed, I thought it was a microphone problem, but it's not. It's
something wrong with the Mac built-in audio system--at least on my
iMac. If in-coming settings are 5, 11, 22 or 44 to the Mac, the sound
is fine. The out-going sound is from a Mac's mic is not a problem
either. Only the in-coming sound at 8kHz turns a voice into a troll-
like growl.
If you have a Mac, could you check this out? You can use the app at:
http://nemo.hartford.edu/~wsanders/...CamUtility.html
Just set the Microphone rate to 8 in the ListBox on the right. It
streams the video on the left to the output on the right.
This is not a problem with any PCs I've seen. So please, if you have
a Mac, give it a try. See if you can make a sound that scares small
children.
Thanks,
Bill
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| Jake Hilton 2005-11-12, 5:45 pm |
| Boy Bill... isn't this the third time you've posted this.. 
I wish I had something to add to help.
Jake
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I have found that the audio (in) on my Mac turns into a growl if the
mic rate from incoming streams is set to 8kHz. As erroneously
believed, I thought it was a microphone problem, but it's not. It's
something wrong with the Mac built-in audio system--at least on my
iMac. If in-coming settings are 5, 11, 22 or 44 to the Mac, the sound
is fine. The out-going sound is from a Mac's mic is not a problem
either. Only the in-coming sound at 8kHz turns a voice into a troll-
like growl.
If you have a Mac, could you check this out? You can use the app at:
http://nemo.hartford.edu/~wsanders/...CamUtility.html
Just set the Microphone rate to 8 in the ListBox on the right. It
streams the video on the left to the output on the right.
This is not a problem with any PCs I've seen. So please, if you have
a Mac, give it a try. See if you can make a sound that scares small
children.
Thanks,
Bill
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| Bill Sanders 2005-11-12, 5:45 pm |
| Jake,
I apologize. It's driving me nuts. All I need is for a couple of
people with Macs to let me know, and then I can plan for some kind of
tweak to accommodate Macs. So I keep changing the question with the
hope that I'll get some kind of response from Mac users. I guess
there's always the Apple computer store....but I've been banned from
there already.
Bill
On Nov 12, 2005, at 12:48 PM, Jake Hilton wrote:
> Boy Bill... isn't this the third time you've posted this..
>
> I wish I had something to add to help.
>
> Jake
>
> I have found that the audio (in) on my Mac turns into a growl if the
> mic rate from incoming streams is set to 8kHz. As erroneously
> believed, I thought it was a microphone problem, but it's not. It's
> something wrong with the Mac built-in audio system--at least on my
> iMac. If in-coming settings are 5, 11, 22 or 44 to the Mac, the sound
>
> is fine. The out-going sound is from a Mac's mic is not a problem
> either. Only the in-coming sound at 8kHz turns a voice into a troll-
> like growl.
>
> If you have a Mac, could you check this out? You can use the app at:
>
> http://nemo.hartford.edu/~wsanders/...CamUtility.html
>
> Just set the Microphone rate to 8 in the ListBox on the right. It
> streams the video on the left to the output on the right.
>
> This is not a problem with any PCs I've seen. So please, if you have
> a Mac, give it a try. See if you can make a sound that scares small
> children.
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
> bill sanders | www.sandlight.com | bloomfield, ct | 860-242-2260
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| Sean Moran 2005-11-12, 5:45 pm |
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Wow...growl!
Happens here on my G5 with FP 8 in all browsers.
Sean
On Nov 12, 2005, at 4:11 AM, Bill Sanders wrote:
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> I have found that the audio (in) on my Mac turns into a growl if
> the mic rate from incoming streams is set to 8kHz. As erroneously
> believed, I thought it was a microphone problem, but it's not. It's
> something wrong with the Mac built-in audio system--at least on my
> iMac. If in-coming settings are 5, 11, 22 or 44 to the Mac, the
> sound is fine. The out-going sound is from a Mac's mic is not a
> problem either. Only the in-coming sound at 8kHz turns a voice into
> a troll-like growl.
>
> If you have a Mac, could you check this out? You can use the app at:
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| Andreas Rønning 2005-11-12, 8:45 pm |
| Sean Moran wrote:
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> Wow...growl!
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> Happens here on my G5 with FP 8 in all browsers.
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> Sean
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> On Nov 12, 2005, at 4:11 AM, Bill Sanders wrote:
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8khz is very, very low. I'm not surprised that macs dont like it.
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| Bill Sanders 2005-11-12, 8:45 pm |
| Sean,
Thanks. Now, I wonder what causes that and if there's a fix other
than changing all the mic rates from 8kHz to something else. I've
tried adding an external mic to my Mac, but it doesn't pick it up.
Any audio-smarties on this list that would know why the output from
8kHz input would do that?
Thanks,
Bill
On Nov 12, 2005, at 4:47 PM, Sean Moran wrote:
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> Wow...growl!
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> Happens here on my G5 with FP 8 in all browsers.
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> Sean
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> On Nov 12, 2005, at 4:11 AM, Bill Sanders wrote:
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| Edward Chan 2005-11-14, 5:45 pm |
| Bill,
Can you tell me what player version, and build you're using?
Ed
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> Bill Sanders
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> I have found that the audio (in) on my Mac turns into a growl=20
> if the mic rate from incoming streams is set to 8kHz. As=20
> erroneously believed, I thought it was a microphone problem,=20
> but it's not. It's something wrong with the Mac built-in=20
> audio system--at least on my iMac. If in-coming settings are=20
> 5, 11, 22 or 44 to the Mac, the sound is fine. The out-going=20
> sound is from a Mac's mic is not a problem either. Only the=20
> in-coming sound at 8kHz turns a voice into a troll- like growl.
>=20
> If you have a Mac, could you check this out? You can use the app at:
>=20
> http://nemo.hartford.edu/~wsanders/...CamUtility.html
>=20
> Just set the Microphone rate to 8 in the ListBox on the=20
> right. It streams the video on the left to the output on the right.
>=20
> This is not a problem with any PCs I've seen. So please, if=20
> you have a Mac, give it a try. See if you can make a sound=20
> that scares small children.
>=20
> Thanks,
> Bill
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| David Simmons 2005-11-14, 5:45 pm |
| This appears to be a Flash 8 bug. It worked OK for me in player 7 on
two machines (both G4s, one a laptop and the other a box), but not in 8.
I do know there was a report of a similar problem in 8.5, but I'll make
sure the player team knows about it.
Feel free to file a bug yourself if you want to earn the beta bug beer
points.
In the meantime, I would suggest avoiding 8khz mic settings.
- Dave Simmons
Macromedia Engineering
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[mailto:flashcomm-bounces-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Bill
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Subject: [FlashComm] 8kHz mystery on Macs--scares small children
I have found that the audio (in) on my Mac turns into a growl if the =20
mic rate from incoming streams is set to 8kHz. As erroneously =20
believed, I thought it was a microphone problem, but it's not. It's =20
something wrong with the Mac built-in audio system--at least on my =20
iMac. If in-coming settings are 5, 11, 22 or 44 to the Mac, the sound =20
is fine. The out-going sound is from a Mac's mic is not a problem =20
either. Only the in-coming sound at 8kHz turns a voice into a troll-=20
like growl.
If you have a Mac, could you check this out? You can use the app at:
http://nemo.hartford.edu/~wsanders/...CamUtility.html
Just set the Microphone rate to 8 in the ListBox on the right. It =20
streams the video on the left to the output on the right.
This is not a problem with any PCs I've seen. So please, if you have =20
a Mac, give it a try. See if you can make a sound that scares small =20
children.
Thanks,
Bill
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| wdsanders-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane. 2005-11-14, 5:45 pm |
| Hi Dave,
I filed an Edison bug, but I'll file an F8 one as well -- double beer points?
Bill
> This appears to be a Flash 8 bug. It worked OK for me in player 7 on
> two machines (both G4s, one a laptop and the other a box), but not in 8.
>
> I do know there was a report of a similar problem in 8.5, but I'll make
> sure the player team knows about it.
>
> Feel free to file a bug yourself if you want to earn the beta bug beer
> points.
>
> In the meantime, I would suggest avoiding 8khz mic settings.
>
> - Dave Simmons
> Macromedia Engineering
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>
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> [mailto:flashcomm-bounces-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Bill
> Sanders
> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 3:11 AM
> To: FlashComm Mailing List
> Subject: [FlashComm] 8kHz mystery on Macs--scares small children
>
> I have found that the audio (in) on my Mac turns into a growl if the
> mic rate from incoming streams is set to 8kHz. As erroneously
> believed, I thought it was a microphone problem, but it's not. It's
> something wrong with the Mac built-in audio system--at least on my
> iMac. If in-coming settings are 5, 11, 22 or 44 to the Mac, the sound
> is fine. The out-going sound is from a Mac's mic is not a problem
> either. Only the in-coming sound at 8kHz turns a voice into a troll-
> like growl.
>
> If you have a Mac, could you check this out? You can use the app at:
>
> http://nemo.hartford.edu/~wsanders/...CamUtility.html
>
> Just set the Microphone rate to 8 in the ListBox on the right. It
> streams the video on the left to the output on the right.
>
> This is not a problem with any PCs I've seen. So please, if you have
> a Mac, give it a try. See if you can make a sound that scares small
> children.
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
> bill sanders | www.sandlight.com | bloomfield, ct | 860-242-2260
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| wdsanders-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane. 2005-11-14, 5:45 pm |
| Ed,
I'm using both Player 8 and 8.5.
Bill
> Bill,
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> Can you tell me what player version, and build you're using?
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> Ed
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