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Weird, Weird, Weird FCS Disconnect Problem

Billy Bateman

2005-04-07, 5:57 pm

I am having the weirdest thing happen with one of my fcs apps.

Before may times we had users say oh I cant get connected, so we did the
tunneling ting and that let them in.
But has anyone ever had the problem of a user not getting disconnected.

Here is scenario:

The users is closing an Internet Explorer window that has an fcs app
running in the window. The users is not getting disconnected from the
fcs server, he is actually staying logged into server and even able to
broadcast his audio to other users.

When all other users close the window they do get disconnected, but this
one guy is able to stay connected after the window is closed. Any ideas?

He does however get disconnected if he closes the main website window
that open the other window to hold fcs app. So image he click a link on
a page that opened a new fcs app window. He does chat and when he is
done he closes window, and is still on the website that he clicked
originally to open window. He is still broadcasting now and that window
is long gone, he can browse the site and stay connected, but if he
closes, actually closes main website window he is disconnected.

This is the strangest thing I have ever seen!

Billy Bateman

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JesterXL

2005-04-07, 5:57 pm

(obvious question) Are you sure the main window has:
- no flash
- if it does have Flash, it's not doing any FCS code

???

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Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:54 AM
Subject: [FlashComm] Weird, Weird, Weird FCS Disconnect Problem

I am having the weirdest thing happen with one of my fcs apps.

Before may times we had users say oh I cant get connected, so we did the
tunneling ting and that let them in.
But has anyone ever had the problem of a user not getting disconnected.

Here is scenario:

The users is closing an Internet Explorer window that has an fcs app
running in the window. The users is not getting disconnected from the
fcs server, he is actually staying logged into server and even able to
broadcast his audio to other users.

When all other users close the window they do get disconnected, but this
one guy is able to stay connected after the window is closed. Any ideas?

He does however get disconnected if he closes the main website window
that open the other window to hold fcs app. So image he click a link on
a page that opened a new fcs app window. He does chat and when he is
done he closes window, and is still on the website that he clicked
originally to open window. He is still broadcasting now and that window
is long gone, he can browse the site and stay connected, but if he
closes, actually closes main website window he is disconnected.

This is the strangest thing I have ever seen!

Billy Bateman

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Billy Bateman

2005-04-07, 5:57 pm

Yes, there is no fcs apps on main page, only flash with fcs connect in
the popup window.

Billy

JesterXL wrote:

>(obvious question) Are you sure the main window has:
>- no flash
>- if it does have Flash, it's not doing any FCS code
>
>???
>
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>To: "FlashComm Mailing List" <flashcomm-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:54 AM
>Subject: [FlashComm] Weird, Weird, Weird FCS Disconnect Problem
>
>
>I am having the weirdest thing happen with one of my fcs apps.
>
>Before may times we had users say oh I cant get connected, so we did the
>tunneling ting and that let them in.
>But has anyone ever had the problem of a user not getting disconnected.
>
>Here is scenario:
>
>The users is closing an Internet Explorer window that has an fcs app
>running in the window. The users is not getting disconnected from the
>fcs server, he is actually staying logged into server and even able to
>broadcast his audio to other users.
>
>When all other users close the window they do get disconnected, but this
>one guy is able to stay connected after the window is closed. Any ideas?
>
>He does however get disconnected if he closes the main website window
>that open the other window to hold fcs app. So image he click a link on
>a page that opened a new fcs app window. He does chat and when he is
>done he closes window, and is still on the website that he clicked
>originally to open window. He is still broadcasting now and that window
>is long gone, he can browse the site and stay connected, but if he
>closes, actually closes main website window he is disconnected.
>
>This is the strangest thing I have ever seen!
>
>Billy Bateman
>
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JesterXL

2005-04-07, 5:57 pm

I've had audio continue for a second, even after the browser window closed.
I just reckoned that was the Flash thread continuing because it had cleanup
work to do... but I eventually was disconnected.

How long does homeskillet stay connected for?

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Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Weird, Weird, Weird FCS Disconnect Problem

Yes, there is no fcs apps on main page, only flash with fcs connect in
the popup window.

Billy

JesterXL wrote:

>(obvious question) Are you sure the main window has:
>- no flash
>- if it does have Flash, it's not doing any FCS code
>
>???
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Billy Bateman" <webmaster-MtXp3LXSpgq7zZZRDBGcUA@public.gmane.org>
>To: "FlashComm Mailing List" <flashcomm-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:54 AM
>Subject: [FlashComm] Weird, Weird, Weird FCS Disconnect Problem
>
>
>I am having the weirdest thing happen with one of my fcs apps.
>
>Before may times we had users say oh I cant get connected, so we did the
>tunneling ting and that let them in.
>But has anyone ever had the problem of a user not getting disconnected.
>
>Here is scenario:
>
>The users is closing an Internet Explorer window that has an fcs app
>running in the window. The users is not getting disconnected from the
>fcs server, he is actually staying logged into server and even able to
>broadcast his audio to other users.
>
>When all other users close the window they do get disconnected, but this
>one guy is able to stay connected after the window is closed. Any ideas?
>
>He does however get disconnected if he closes the main website window
>that open the other window to hold fcs app. So image he click a link on
>a page that opened a new fcs app window. He does chat and when he is
>done he closes window, and is still on the website that he clicked
>originally to open window. He is still broadcasting now and that window
>is long gone, he can browse the site and stay connected, but if he
>closes, actually closes main website window he is disconnected.
>
>This is the strangest thing I have ever seen!
>
>Billy Bateman
>
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Graeme Bull

2005-04-07, 5:57 pm

I remember Jayson had the same problem with a user on his site. The user's
video was playing for over an hour AFTER he had closed the window....

It's either a browser or flash plugin problem.

I would suggest that you put a logout button on the page and then warn all
users of what could possibly happen if they don't press that before closing
the window. It's not the developers fault.

-Graeme

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Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:21 AM
To: FlashComm Mailing List
Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Weird, Weird, Weird FCS Disconnect Problem

Yes, there is no fcs apps on main page, only flash with fcs connect in the
popup window.

Billy

JesterXL wrote:

>(obvious question) Are you sure the main window has:
>- no flash
>- if it does have Flash, it's not doing any FCS code
>
>???
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Billy Bateman" <webmaster-MtXp3LXSpgq7zZZRDBGcUA@public.gmane.org>
>To: "FlashComm Mailing List" <flashcomm-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:54 AM
>Subject: [FlashComm] Weird, Weird, Weird FCS Disconnect Problem
>
>
>I am having the weirdest thing happen with one of my fcs apps.
>
>Before may times we had users say oh I cant get connected, so we did
>the tunneling ting and that let them in.
>But has anyone ever had the problem of a user not getting disconnected.
>
>Here is scenario:
>
>The users is closing an Internet Explorer window that has an fcs app
>running in the window. The users is not getting disconnected from the
>fcs server, he is actually staying logged into server and even able to
>broadcast his audio to other users.
>
>When all other users close the window they do get disconnected, but
>this one guy is able to stay connected after the window is closed. Any
ideas?
>
>He does however get disconnected if he closes the main website window
>that open the other window to hold fcs app. So image he click a link on
>a page that opened a new fcs app window. He does chat and when he is
>done he closes window, and is still on the website that he clicked
>originally to open window. He is still broadcasting now and that window
>is long gone, he can browse the site and stay connected, but if he
>closes, actually closes main website window he is disconnected.
>
>This is the strangest thing I have ever seen!
>
>Billy Bateman
>
>
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Stefan Richter

2005-04-07, 5:57 pm

I remember this from way way waaaaay back. Somehow the browser hung on to
the FCS. Thinkign about it, I think it only happened with IE and only when
using the Communication Comps - but I could be wrong.

You are using FCs 1.5.2, right? Also are you sure you have the latest
component set (if you are usign the components).
If you try Firefox, what happens? If you try a simple app without
communication components, what happens?

Stefan

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> [mailto:flashcomm-bounces-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of
> Graeme Bull
> Sent: 05 April 2005 17:34
> To: 'FlashComm Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: [FlashComm] Weird, Weird, Weird FCS Disconnect Problem
>
> I remember Jayson had the same problem with a user on his
> site. The user's video was playing for over an hour AFTER he
> had closed the window....
>
> It's either a browser or flash plugin problem.
>
> I would suggest that you put a logout button on the page and
> then warn all users of what could possibly happen if they
> don't press that before closing the window. It's not the
> developers fault.
>
> -Graeme
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: flashcomm-bounces-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org
> [mailto:flashcomm-bounces-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of
> Billy Bateman
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:21 AM
> To: FlashComm Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Weird, Weird, Weird FCS Disconnect Problem
>
> Yes, there is no fcs apps on main page, only flash with fcs
> connect in the popup window.
>
> Billy
>
> JesterXL wrote:
>
> disconnected.
> from the
> even able to
> closed. Any
> ideas?
> website window
> click a link on
> that window

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Billy Bateman

2005-04-07, 5:57 pm

I am going to try and reply to all emails in this one.

Ok I will have him try Mozilla but as far as I know he is only using IE
and its only him that it happens too.

He is staying connected for awhile, so like when we were on the phone
testing this morning it was like at least 10 minutes before I told him
go ahead and close the main page to kill connection.

I can tell users to hit close button but that wont make for sure they do
it so.

What I am thinking is maybe test some of the shared objects I am making
and see if they are still connected or if any part of the apps get
shutdown when the users closes and if its just audio staying connected
then maybe we can test for the video shutoff I know there is a method
somewhere.

I think it is 1.5.2 FCS and no fcs components all programmed stuff

Billy

JesterXL wrote:

>I've had audio continue for a second, even after the browser window closed.
>I just reckoned that was the Flash thread continuing because it had cleanup
>work to do... but I eventually was disconnected.
>
>How long does homeskillet stay connected for?
>
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>To: "FlashComm Mailing List" <flashcomm-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:21 PM
>Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Weird, Weird, Weird FCS Disconnect Problem
>
>
>Yes, there is no fcs apps on main page, only flash with fcs connect in
>the popup window.
>
>Billy
>
>JesterXL wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Billy Bateman

2005-04-07, 5:57 pm

Do you guys know of a method that might do this before I beat the bush
waiting for my bird to fly out.

I am really good with FCS, and I know there is something in my code
somewhere to test and see if they are still there, but its so hard to
make sure it works for everyone sometimes it just makes me so mad I
wanna become a garbage man or something that uses no brains,

JesterXL

2005-04-07, 5:57 pm

I'm full of crazy ideas:
- put an onUnload in your all of your Flash components that have nc's; make
sure it disconnects from ns, so, and nc's in that order via nc.close(); etc.
- if there already are onUnloads there, remove them, maybe it's ticking
Flash off
- use a ping from the server, but the client has to be able to successfully
create a movie clip at some depth; if it can't do this, it's some insane
thread still running with no gui, and thus you can (somewhat) confirm the
server isn't really talking to a valid, running Flash client, but some
undying thread

----- Original Message -----
From: "Billy Bateman" <webmaster-MtXp3LXSpgq7zZZRDBGcUA@public.gmane.org>
To: "FlashComm Mailing List" <flashcomm-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Weird, Weird, Weird FCS Disconnect Problem

Do you guys know of a method that might do this before I beat the bush
waiting for my bird to fly out.

I am really good with FCS, and I know there is something in my code
somewhere to test and see if they are still there, but its so hard to
make sure it works for everyone sometimes it just makes me so mad I
wanna become a garbage man or something that uses no brains,

Graeme Bull

2005-04-07, 5:57 pm

This is just a stab in the dark really, but what I think is happening is
that the driver to the audio or video or both is not letting the browser or
plugin go, so what is happening is that the flash file is staying in memory.

In other words, if I am correct (which I have no idea.. ) the ideas of
unloading, or checking for the client won't work.

I myself have never seen this happen, not to say it doesn't happen, but it
seems to be a rare occurence. One suggestion might to be to ask that user
to upgrade/reinstall the drivers and give it another shot? Does it happen
every time to that user?

dunno.. just stabbing in the dark

*stab* *stab* *slash*

-Graeme

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Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:54 AM
To: FlashComm Mailing List
Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Weird, Weird, Weird FCS Disconnect Problem

I'm full of crazy ideas:
- put an onUnload in your all of your Flash components that have nc's; make
sure it disconnects from ns, so, and nc's in that order via nc.close(); etc.
- if there already are onUnloads there, remove them, maybe it's ticking
Flash off
- use a ping from the server, but the client has to be able to successfully
create a movie clip at some depth; if it can't do this, it's some insane
thread still running with no gui, and thus you can (somewhat) confirm the
server isn't really talking to a valid, running Flash client, but some
undying thread

----- Original Message -----
From: "Billy Bateman" <webmaster-MtXp3LXSpgq7zZZRDBGcUA@public.gmane.org>
To: "FlashComm Mailing List" <flashcomm-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Weird, Weird, Weird FCS Disconnect Problem

Do you guys know of a method that might do this before I beat the bush
waiting for my bird to fly out.

I am really good with FCS, and I know there is something in my code
somewhere to test and see if they are still there, but its so hard to
make sure it works for everyone sometimes it just makes me so mad I
wanna become a garbage man or something that uses no brains,

Billy

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Billy Bateman

2005-04-07, 5:57 pm

Maybe its a flash version issue to maybe the users needs to upgrade his
flash or restart machine after flash install which noones does.

I will send these suggestions to users and see if he can get specs on
what version and stuff he is using.

I again thanks you guys for your help.

Billy

Graeme Bull wrote:

>This is just a stab in the dark really, but what I think is happening is
>that the driver to the audio or video or both is not letting the browser or
>plugin go, so what is happening is that the flash file is staying in memory.
>
>In other words, if I am correct (which I have no idea.. ) the ideas of
>unloading, or checking for the client won't work.
>
>I myself have never seen this happen, not to say it doesn't happen, but it
>seems to be a rare occurence. One suggestion might to be to ask that user
>to upgrade/reinstall the drivers and give it another shot? Does it happen
>every time to that user?
>
>dunno.. just stabbing in the dark
>
>*stab* *stab* *slash*
>
>-Graeme
>
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>[mailto:flashcomm-bounces-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of JesterXL
>Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:54 AM
>To: FlashComm Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Weird, Weird, Weird FCS Disconnect Problem
>
>I'm full of crazy ideas:
>- put an onUnload in your all of your Flash components that have nc's; make
>sure it disconnects from ns, so, and nc's in that order via nc.close(); etc.
>- if there already are onUnloads there, remove them, maybe it's ticking
>Flash off
>- use a ping from the server, but the client has to be able to successfully
>create a movie clip at some depth; if it can't do this, it's some insane
>thread still running with no gui, and thus you can (somewhat) confirm the
>server isn't really talking to a valid, running Flash client, but some
>undying thread
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Billy Bateman" <webmaster-MtXp3LXSpgq7zZZRDBGcUA@public.gmane.org>
>To: "FlashComm Mailing List" <flashcomm-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:42 PM
>Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Weird, Weird, Weird FCS Disconnect Problem
>
>
>Do you guys know of a method that might do this before I beat the bush
>waiting for my bird to fly out.
>
>I am really good with FCS, and I know there is something in my code
>somewhere to test and see if they are still there, but its so hard to
>make sure it works for everyone sometimes it just makes me so mad I
>wanna become a garbage man or something that uses no brains,

>
>Billy
>
>
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JesterXL

2005-04-07, 5:57 pm

6.0.79.0 or bust!!! Seriously man that + drivers solve everything in the
world, except for world peas.

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Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Weird, Weird, Weird FCS Disconnect Problem

Maybe its a flash version issue to maybe the users needs to upgrade his
flash or restart machine after flash install which noones does.

I will send these suggestions to users and see if he can get specs on
what version and stuff he is using.

I again thanks you guys for your help.

Billy

Graeme Bull wrote:

>This is just a stab in the dark really, but what I think is happening is
>that the driver to the audio or video or both is not letting the browser or
>plugin go, so what is happening is that the flash file is staying in
>memory.
>
>In other words, if I am correct (which I have no idea.. ) the ideas of
>unloading, or checking for the client won't work.
>
>I myself have never seen this happen, not to say it doesn't happen, but it
>seems to be a rare occurence. One suggestion might to be to ask that user
>to upgrade/reinstall the drivers and give it another shot? Does it happen
>every time to that user?
>
>dunno.. just stabbing in the dark
>
>*stab* *stab* *slash*
>
>-Graeme
>
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>[mailto:flashcomm-bounces-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of JesterXL
>Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:54 AM
>To: FlashComm Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Weird, Weird, Weird FCS Disconnect Problem
>
>I'm full of crazy ideas:
>- put an onUnload in your all of your Flash components that have nc's; make
>sure it disconnects from ns, so, and nc's in that order via nc.close();
>etc.
>- if there already are onUnloads there, remove them, maybe it's ticking
>Flash off
>- use a ping from the server, but the client has to be able to successfully
>create a movie clip at some depth; if it can't do this, it's some insane
>thread still running with no gui, and thus you can (somewhat) confirm the
>server isn't really talking to a valid, running Flash client, but some
>undying thread
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Billy Bateman" <webmaster-MtXp3LXSpgq7zZZRDBGcUA@public.gmane.org>
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>Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:42 PM
>Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Weird, Weird, Weird FCS Disconnect Problem
>
>
>Do you guys know of a method that might do this before I beat the bush
>waiting for my bird to fly out.
>
>I am really good with FCS, and I know there is something in my code
>somewhere to test and see if they are still there, but its so hard to
>make sure it works for everyone sometimes it just makes me so mad I
>wanna become a garbage man or something that uses no brains,

Jayson K Hanes

2005-04-07, 5:57 pm

Yup! AFAIK, It was a drivers and flash plug-in update related fix... Had
same problem with video and audio.. as soon as the user updated their
flash (at the time to 6,0,79) and drivers for their sound hardware.. the
problem never came back that I know of.=20

-Jayson

> -----Original Message-----
> From: flashcomm-bounces-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org [mailto:flashcomm-
> bounces-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Graeme Bull
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:34 PM
> To: 'FlashComm Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: [FlashComm] Weird, Weird, Weird FCS Disconnect Problem
>=20
> I remember Jayson had the same problem with a user on his site. The
> user's
> video was playing for over an hour AFTER he had closed the window....
>=20
> It's either a browser or flash plugin problem.

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Billy Bateman

2005-04-07, 5:57 pm

Ok there is a hacked version of the text chat component in the app, so
maybe it can test onUnload or even test the on sync the so in it, but I
am confused about when the nc.close method is fired on this guys app.

To my understanding its not right, or do you think it is getting fired,
but the server is just not disconnecting pieces of the app.
I have not started testing anything yet on tis as I wanted some more
thoughts before like I said I beat the bush.

Idea: May work may not in text chat say I make a function to kill
entire app and have it run via setInterval every 15 to 20 secs, and then
in text chat set the on syncs to run have to be runs every 10 to 12. I
dont know pulling things out o my !@# there.

Billy

JesterXL wrote:

>I'm full of crazy ideas:
>- put an onUnload in your all of your Flash components that have nc's; make
>sure it disconnects from ns, so, and nc's in that order via nc.close(); etc.
>- if there already are onUnloads there, remove them, maybe it's ticking
>Flash off
>- use a ping from the server, but the client has to be able to successfully
>create a movie clip at some depth; if it can't do this, it's some insane
>thread still running with no gui, and thus you can (somewhat) confirm the
>server isn't really talking to a valid, running Flash client, but some
>undying thread
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Billy Bateman" <webmaster-MtXp3LXSpgq7zZZRDBGcUA@public.gmane.org>
>To: "FlashComm Mailing List" <flashcomm-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:42 PM
>Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Weird, Weird, Weird FCS Disconnect Problem
>
>
>Do you guys know of a method that might do this before I beat the bush
>waiting for my bird to fly out.
>
>I am really good with FCS, and I know there is something in my code
>somewhere to test and see if they are still there, but its so hard to
>make sure it works for everyone sometimes it just makes me so mad I
>wanna become a garbage man or something that uses no brains,

Billy Bateman

2005-04-07, 5:57 pm

Its 7.0 but is there a good number up there, I remember 7.0.19 or
something , do you know of the best version in 7.0.

I remember 6.0.79.0 fixed lots of streaming issues for me before, but
what about when doing things in 2004 pro.

Billy

JesterXL wrote:

>6.0.79.0 or bust!!! Seriously man that + drivers solve everything in the
>world, except for world peas.
>
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>Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Weird, Weird, Weird FCS Disconnect Problem
>
>
>Maybe its a flash version issue to maybe the users needs to upgrade his
>flash or restart machine after flash install which noones does.
>
>I will send these suggestions to users and see if he can get specs on
>what version and stuff he is using.
>
>I again thanks you guys for your help.
>
>Billy
>
>Graeme Bull wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
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JesterXL

2005-04-07, 5:57 pm

- on adding onUnload: sometimes, if Flash is closed, you'll get lucky and
onUnload will run. If so, then you can at least ensure that if you are in
fact lucky, all connections will be closed.
- on removeing onUnload: sometimes, onUnload does bad things. For instance,
you could have a local SharedObject crash Flash by keeping it around, but
not doing a flush till onUnload or keeping references to things, and doing
other work in onUnload; it gets really squirrely, and frankly is an
untrustworthy event that should be avoided except in the case of extreme
circumstances; see my first suggestion for just such a reason.

Now, I find it hard to believe that a SWF stuck in memory, but not actually
running in browser would trace out the same properties. This situation HAS
to have some property you can take advantage of. For example, there are
tons of diagnostic properties that you can query in System.capabilities to
tell where and how Flash is currently running.

Additionally, I'd be curious to see what properties on NetStream report what
when your running in such a stealthy state.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Billy Bateman" <webmaster-MtXp3LXSpgq7zZZRDBGcUA@public.gmane.org>
To: "FlashComm Mailing List" <flashcomm-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Weird, Weird, Weird FCS Disconnect Problem

Ok there is a hacked version of the text chat component in the app, so
maybe it can test onUnload or even test the on sync the so in it, but I
am confused about when the nc.close method is fired on this guys app.

To my understanding its not right, or do you think it is getting fired,
but the server is just not disconnecting pieces of the app.
I have not started testing anything yet on tis as I wanted some more
thoughts before like I said I beat the bush.

Idea: May work may not in text chat say I make a function to kill
entire app and have it run via setInterval every 15 to 20 secs, and then
in text chat set the on syncs to run have to be runs every 10 to 12. I
dont know pulling things out o my !@# there.

Billy

JesterXL wrote:

>I'm full of crazy ideas:
>- put an onUnload in your all of your Flash components that have nc's; make
>sure it disconnects from ns, so, and nc's in that order via nc.close();
>etc.
>- if there already are onUnloads there, remove them, maybe it's ticking
>Flash off
>- use a ping from the server, but the client has to be able to successfully
>create a movie clip at some depth; if it can't do this, it's some insane
>thread still running with no gui, and thus you can (somewhat) confirm the
>server isn't really talking to a valid, running Flash client, but some
>undying thread
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Billy Bateman" <webmaster-MtXp3LXSpgq7zZZRDBGcUA@public.gmane.org>
>To: "FlashComm Mailing List" <flashcomm-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:42 PM
>Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Weird, Weird, Weird FCS Disconnect Problem
>
>
>Do you guys know of a method that might do this before I beat the bush
>waiting for my bird to fly out.
>
>I am really good with FCS, and I know there is something in my code
>somewhere to test and see if they are still there, but its so hard to
>make sure it works for everyone sometimes it just makes me so mad I
>wanna become a garbage man or something that uses no brains,

>
>Billy
>
>
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