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| Steve Zehngut 2005-06-13, 8:45 pm |
| I know this has been covered here before, but I thought I would ask
again...
Is there a way to do desktop sharing through the Flashcomm Server?
Thanks,
-Steve
Steve Zehngut
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| Dario De Agostini 2005-06-14, 2:45 am |
| >I know this has been covered here before, but I thought I would ask
>again...
>
> Is there a way to do desktop sharing through the Flashcomm Server?
there are "many ways", the biggest problem is that flash player CAN'T
publish a stream with the "screen sharing codec".
This means that even if you manage to capture the screen and send it to
flash you will not have a video encoding scheme which is efficient with such
a particular stream.
This means that you will need A LOT of bandwidth most of which could easily
be avoided.
Camtasia has a screen capture driver which lets you caputer the screen up to
640x480.
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| Fabio Sonnati 2005-06-14, 2:45 am |
| I used Camtasia up to 800x600
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> there are "many ways", the biggest problem is that flash player CAN'T
> publish a stream with the "screen sharing codec".
> This means that even if you manage to capture the screen and send it to
> flash you will not have a video encoding scheme which is efficient with
> such a particular stream.
> This means that you will need A LOT of bandwidth most of which could
> easily be avoided.
>
> Camtasia has a screen capture driver which lets you caputer the screen up
> to 640x480.
>
> Dario De Agostini
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| Julio Cesar Ody 2005-06-14, 5:45 pm |
| I used Camtasia for this same purpose as well. But I never figured a
way to used the driver only, without running Camtasia Recorder in the
background. Does anybody know a way to do it?
On 6/14/05, Fabio Sonnati <sonnati-6XAXFxi7MR1y6ZJYwPuT2FaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> I used Camtasia up to 800x600
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| MHarris-vppm1TVqICB/8ZyCq/8wuYdd74u8MsAO@publi 2005-06-14, 5:45 pm |
| I once saw an application that would take a screenshot of your desktop and
save it as a jpg to a folder every second, each time overwriting the
existing jpeg. Maybe a Flash movie could load such a file every second and
broadcast it to the server.
That would be "Desktop Viewing."
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I used Camtasia for this same purpose as well. But I never figured a way to
used the driver only, without running Camtasia Recorder in the background.
Does anybody know a way to do it?
On 6/14/05, Fabio Sonnati <sonnati-6XAXFxi7MR1y6ZJYwPuT2FaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> I used Camtasia up to 800x600
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| Julio Cesar Ody 2005-06-14, 8:45 pm |
| Not really. Unless you have a driver application such as Camtasia's,
you can't grab desktop screenshots.
Even if we did so somehow, it would involve uploading each jpeg image
to a server where the participants can get those images from. So far I
haven't seen a Flash application POSTing files to a webserver or doing
FTP uploads of any sort without relying on external commercial
compilers. Still, it would be *great* to have this functionality,
since it would make us free from Flashcomm, possibly.
Camtasia works as a capture driver for Windows. That's how you can see
it listed in the camera list on the flash player settings. I didn't
take my time to check, but for sure it's no more than a DLL placed
somewhere. Now the problem is, as we can see in Camtasia Recorder's
setup, live capture has to be ticked for us to be able to capture the
desktop in real time. There's some variable in this driver that
controls it. If there's anybody out there with an average knowledge of
reverse engineering, you should be able to see what this variable is,
patch the driver, and make it permanent.
But then, we're going into legal issues here...
On 6/15/05, MHarris-vppm1TVqICB/8ZyCq/8wuYdd74u8MsAO@public.gmane.org <MHarris-vppm1TVqICB/8ZyCq/8wuYdd74u8MsAO@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> I once saw an application that would take a screenshot of your desktop an=
d
> save it as a jpg to a folder every second, each time overwriting the
> existing jpeg. Maybe a Flash movie could load such a file every second an=
d
> broadcast it to the server.
>=20
> That would be "Desktop Viewing."
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Julio Cesar Ody [mailto:julioody-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 4:59 PM
> To: FlashComm Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Flashcomm / Desktop Sharing
>=20
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> I used Camtasia for this same purpose as well. But I never figured a way =
to
> used the driver only, without running Camtasia Recorder in the background=
..
> Does anybody know a way to do it?
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> On 6/14/05, Fabio Sonnati <sonnati-6XAXFxi7MR1y6ZJYwPuT2FaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org> wrote:
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| Beto A 2005-06-15, 8:45 pm |
| Now I wonder why MM wont just give it up?? Is it so that Breeze will alw=
ays have that functionality above and beyond what the developers can come=
up with? or is it because they believe a third party will come up with a=
better solution so that they can buy up the company?
=20
**Still scratching head
=20
It seems like a top secret subject when you confront any of the MM people=
I am certain they have been instructed not to talk about it .... maybe t=
hey will be presenting it to us in MAX 05 ( I will keep dreaming)??? =20
Julio Cesar Ody <julioody-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Not really. Unless you have a driver application such as Camtasia's,
you can't grab desktop screenshots.
Even if we did so somehow, it would involve uploading each jpeg image
to a server where the participants can get those images from. So far I
haven't seen a Flash application POSTing files to a webserver or doing
FTP uploads of any sort without relying on external commercial
compilers. Still, it would be *great* to have this functionality,
since it would make us free from Flashcomm, possibly.
Camtasia works as a capture driver for Windows. That's how you can see
it listed in the camera list on the flash player settings. I didn't
take my time to check, but for sure it's no more than a DLL placed
somewhere. Now the problem is, as we can see in Camtasia Recorder's
setup, live capture has to be ticked for us to be able to capture the
desktop in real time. There's some variable in this driver that
controls it. If there's anybody out there with an average knowledge of
reverse engineering, you should be able to see what this variable is,
patch the driver, and make it permanent.
But then, we're going into legal issues here...
On 6/15/05, MHarris-vppm1TVqICB/8ZyCq/8wuYdd74u8MsAO@public.gmane.org wrote:
> I once saw an application that would take a screenshot of your desktop =
and
> save it as a jpg to a folder every second, each time overwriting the
> existing jpeg. Maybe a Flash movie could load such a file every second =
and
> broadcast it to the server.
>=20
> That would be "Desktop Viewing."
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Julio Cesar Ody [mailto:julioody-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 4:59 PM
> To: FlashComm Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Flashcomm / Desktop Sharing
>=20
>=20
> I used Camtasia for this same purpose as well. But I never figured a wa=
y to
> used the driver only, without running Camtasia Recorder in the backgrou=
nd.
> Does anybody know a way to do it?
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On 6/14/05, Fabio Sonnati wrote:
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| Dario De Agostini 2005-06-15, 8:45 pm |
| Dear Beto,
you are making a big mistake... you are not considering that there could be
MANY technical (valid) reasons behind this decision.
I can't go into deep details because of my work but if you dig a bit in the
screen sharing problem you will realize it by yourself.
> Camtasia works as a capture driver for Windows. That's how you can see
> it listed in the camera list on the flash player settings.
please assume this "driver" would be included in flash player:
1) which would be the new player size ? (yes size MATTERS, consider new
encoding, capture driver, OS dependent code, etc etc)
2) what about non-windows clients ? (yes, flash is good because it can run
everywhere)
there are tons of other reasons but those are more technical.
Breeze does screen sharing ut it does NOT use flash player.
Do you think MM wuold use that solution if they could give the standard
player the ability to do screen sharing ?
>I didn't take my time to check, but for sure it's no more than a DLL
>placed somewhere.
you are quite wrong. There is more. Just try to build a windows driver which
captures desktop and you will see.
By the way there is some "vendor" which offers that driver... it wrote
sometimes on this list too. I don't remember the name/company.
You can do screensharing without breeze, it's just a matter of trying and
see if the result fits you. I'm sure you will be dsappointed because of the
standard flash player limitations (which are part of its strength).
I'm confident things will change a lot with the new flash/fcs releases.
Let's wait some month and see 
Have a nice day,
Dario De Agostini
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| chris wyatt 2005-06-15, 8:45 pm |
| Jeez, don't be a jerk. A more sensible answer would be that you =
couldn't do
the screen sharing the way you are describing because you would need to =
have
30 fps to seem live (You would need to take close to 30 shots for it to =
be
"fluid"). Think of all that bandwith getting eaten up by the
uploads/downloads and updates in SO or whatever. =20
BTW, I have used the camstasia driver with the desktop sharing app. I =
got
it up to 640x480 and did some 800x600 but the results were below =
average.
It wasn't feasible in an application with many people.
Not trying to sound negative, but I don't think flash has any good
alternative for desktop sharing. Look elsewhere.
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Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:32 AM
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Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Flashcomm / Desktop Sharing
Dear Beto,
you are making a big mistake... you are not considering that there could =
be=20
MANY technical (valid) reasons behind this decision.
I can't go into deep details because of my work but if you dig a bit in =
the=20
screen sharing problem you will realize it by yourself.
> Camtasia works as a capture driver for Windows. That's how you can see =
> it listed in the camera list on the flash player settings.
please assume this "driver" would be included in flash player:
1) which would be the new player size ? (yes size MATTERS, consider new=20
encoding, capture driver, OS dependent code, etc etc)
2) what about non-windows clients ? (yes, flash is good because it can =
run=20
everywhere)
there are tons of other reasons but those are more technical. Breeze =
does
screen sharing ut it does NOT use flash player. Do you think MM wuold =
use
that solution if they could give the standard=20
player the ability to do screen sharing ?
>I didn't take my time to check, but for sure it's no more than a DLL
>placed somewhere.
you are quite wrong. There is more. Just try to build a windows driver =
which
captures desktop and you will see.
By the way there is some "vendor" which offers that driver... it wrote=20
sometimes on this list too. I don't remember the name/company.
You can do screensharing without breeze, it's just a matter of trying =
and=20
see if the result fits you. I'm sure you will be dsappointed because of =
the=20
standard flash player limitations (which are part of its strength).
I'm confident things will change a lot with the new flash/fcs releases.=20
Let's wait some month and see
Have a nice day,
Dario De Agostini
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| Dario De Agostini 2005-06-15, 8:45 pm |
| >Jeez, don't be a jerk. A more sensible answer would be that you couldn't
>do
>the screen sharing the way you are describing because you would need to
>have
>30 fps to seem live (You would need to take close to 30 shots for it to be
>"fluid"). Think of all that bandwith getting eaten up by the
>uploads/downloads and updates in SO or whatever.
sorry, i didn't mean to be a jerk. My english is quite bad.
a GOOD screen sharing can have just a bit more tha 5fps... those are more
than enough.
you can use more fps for the mouse cursor... which has to be considered in a
separated way.
Bw is a problem because of video encoding.
another problem is related to the cpu usage of the flash player.
Dario De Agostini
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| Beto A 2005-06-15, 8:45 pm |
| Very interesting idea.... sort of like to video streams in one.??
=20
Ok... is there any company out there that provides this kind of solution?=
? and if there was would we use it?
My guess is that in order to get it into flash's stream and tricking it t=
o carry over the frame rates is the trick right?
Dario De Agostini <dario-GCN6p6BpY0//wltNWqQaag@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>Jeez, don't be a jerk. A more sensible answer would be that you couldn't=
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>do
>the screen sharing the way you are describing because you would need to=20
>have
>30 fps to seem live (You would need to take close to 30 shots for it to =
be
>"fluid"). Think of all that bandwith getting eaten up by the
>uploads/downloads and updates in SO or whatever.
sorry, i didn't mean to be a jerk. My english is quite bad.
a GOOD screen sharing can have just a bit more tha 5fps... those are more=
=20
than enough.
you can use more fps for the mouse cursor... which has to be considered i=
n a=20
separated way.
Bw is a problem because of video encoding.
another problem is related to the cpu usage of the flash player.
Dario De Agostini=20
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| MHarris-vppm1TVqICB/8ZyCq/8wuYdd74u8MsAO@publi 2005-06-15, 8:45 pm |
| Maybe there is already a desktop cam program out there (that actually works)
that would take snapshots of the desktop, or part of the desktop, twice
every second and convert them to a webcam feed?
Mike
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Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:21 AM
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Very interesting idea.... sort of like to video streams in one.??
Ok... is there any company out there that provides this kind of solution??
and if there was would we use it? My guess is that in order to get it into
flash's stream and tricking it to carry over the frame rates is the trick
right?
Dario De Agostini <dario-GCN6p6BpY0//wltNWqQaag@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>Jeez, don't be a jerk. A more sensible answer would be that you
>couldn't
>do
>the screen sharing the way you are describing because you would need to
>have
>30 fps to seem live (You would need to take close to 30 shots for it to be
>"fluid"). Think of all that bandwith getting eaten up by the
>uploads/downloads and updates in SO or whatever.
sorry, i didn't mean to be a jerk. My english is quite bad.
a GOOD screen sharing can have just a bit more tha 5fps... those are more
than enough.
you can use more fps for the mouse cursor... which has to be considered in a
separated way.
Bw is a problem because of video encoding.
another problem is related to the cpu usage of the flash player.
Dario De Agostini
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| Jim Cheng 2005-06-15, 8:45 pm |
|
I've done some similar tests with Camtasia and FCS as well and have
obtained similar results with resolutions up to 1024x768. However, as
you hint at, bandwidth utilization was ridiculously high and the frame
rate was quite terrible at perhaps a single frame every several seconds
at best.
Camtasia plus FCS actually works quite adequately for sampling static
screen captures and then sending them to others across FCS if you've got
enough licenses to support the bandwidth usage, but for real-time, high
frame rate desktop sharing, it leaves quite a bit to be desired.
My best guess is that the codecs used by the Flash Player for video
streaming just aren't designed/optimized for screen sharing, and with
the Breeze Player, Macromedia threw in some added goodies.
One non-Breeze alternative for cross-platform screen sharing might be to
use VNC. There are servers and clients for practically all modern
operating systems, support for remote mouse/keyboard control and even
Java-based VNC applets that can run within a browser. I've been using
VNC for years to access remote systems quite effectively, and it gives
very good performance on broadband and local network connections.
While I'm not a terribly enthusiastic fan of Java applets, this is
definitely one application for which an applet is much better suited to
solving the problem at hand than Flash is (at least compared to the
standard Flash Player rather than the Breeze Player).
With some luck, a bit of elbow grease and well-designed applet, you may
even be able to integrate a VNC applet with a Flash-based user interface
using some Javascript glue. Add in video chat over FCS to the Flash UI,
and it'd be pretty darn close. I'd love to see someone put something
like this into action--and would try it myself if I had the time. ;(
But until I inherit millions from a rich uncle that I've never known or
hit it big with the next dot-com boom, it'll have to be relegated to my
pile of interesting ideas.
Jim
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| Phillip Kerman 2005-06-16, 2:45 am |
| What a sore subject for me...
I think the fact is that MM wants to keep the desktop sharing exclusively
for Breeze. The sad part is that I believe they mistakenly believe this
will draw people to Breeze when in fact it just pushes people to find other
solutions--many of which don't use Flash at all.
Thanks,
Phillip
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| actionscriptcoder 2005-06-16, 7:45 am |
| > I think the fact is that MM wants to keep the desktop sharing exclusively
> for Breeze. The sad part is that I believe they mistakenly believe this
> will draw people to Breeze when in fact it just pushes people to find oth=
er
> solutions--many of which don't use Flash at all.
Breeze is just another movie running in the flash player ... anything
it can do, you can do if you try hard enough.
A case in point would be the video quality differences between Breeze
and standard FCS applications, which from the outside look impossible
to achieve, but with the code Peldi released way back when, your FCS
video can look as good as breeze does ... I should imagine that any
screen sharing capabailities within breeze will be similarly coded.
A
PS: I didnt know Breeze could do screen sharing as opposed to
whiteboarding. Anybody got links?
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| Dario De Agostini 2005-06-16, 7:45 am |
| >Breeze is just another movie running in the flash player ... anything
>it can do, you can do if you try hard enough.
false.
Breeze uses breeze player which has the "screen sharing flv encoding".
Normal Flash player doesn't have it so you can't achieve the *same*
performance.
that's all... anything else regarding breeze player can easily be solved
with some effort
Let's hope in new flash player :D
Dario De Agostini
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| Stefan Richter 2005-06-16, 7:45 am |
| Not only that but Breeze can do app sharing too. Trust me, it's more than
just another Flash movie... If it could be done in Flash it would have been
done by now.
Stefan
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> I think the fact is that MM wants to keep the desktop sharing
> exclusively for Breeze. The sad part is that I believe they
> mistakenly believe this will draw people to Breeze when in fact it
> just pushes people to find other solutions--many of which don't use Flash
at all.
Breeze is just another movie running in the flash player ... anything it can
do, you can do if you try hard enough.
A case in point would be the video quality differences between Breeze and
standard FCS applications, which from the outside look impossible to
achieve, but with the code Peldi released way back when, your FCS video can
look as good as breeze does ... I should imagine that any screen sharing
capabailities within breeze will be similarly coded.
A
PS: I didnt know Breeze could do screen sharing as opposed to whiteboarding.
Anybody got links?
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| Dave Williams 2005-06-17, 5:45 pm |
| Morning...
We've been researching desktop sharing for sometime and last month we
finally found a FLASH solution that some of you may want to know
about.
We needed to have a simple Port 80 screen sharing available and
without a dedicated IP address requirement. We didn't want any
technical problems or the user to download special software. It had
to use Flash so any guest could connect to a shared desktop with just
a standard browser. Therefore we were quite amazed that the vShow
product met all of our needs and could be purchased for $99 and run
on my own web server. It was also only $20/mth if we didn't host it
ourselves.
Since many of us have been posting on the screen/application sharing
topic, I've just talked to the California developer and he'd be
pleased to offer a 6 week free trial of the vShow collaboration
software to anyone in the Flashcom community. I've been using the
product since mid-May and have easily integrated it within my FCS web
conferencing applications.
To make things easy, I've just added a link on my website, so to
download your free trial software, simply go to
http://www.vlinklive.com/support.html and click on the "Download"
icon referring to the FREE trial. Complete the form and you'll
receive an email providing the password for your guest account. There
will also be a link in the email for you to download the software
including full tutorials on how to quickly set up and use the
software.
After you've downloaded your copy, don't hesitate to contact me and
I'll be pleased to share what I've learned especially how to
customize and add your corporate brand to the software.
cheers... dave
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| Jake Hilton 2005-06-17, 5:45 pm |
| Does it only run on widows?... I will check it out though... very cool.
Thanks,
Jake
[vbcol=seagreen]
Morning...
We've been researching desktop sharing for sometime and last month we=20
finally found a FLASH solution that some of you may want to know=20
about.
We needed to have a simple Port 80 screen sharing available and=20
without a dedicated IP address requirement. We didn't want any=20
technical problems or the user to download special software. It had=20
to use Flash so any guest could connect to a shared desktop with just=20
a standard browser. Therefore we were quite amazed that the vShow=20
product met all of our needs and could be purchased for $99 and run=20
on my own web server. It was also only $20/mth if we didn't host it=20
ourselves.
Since many of us have been posting on the screen/application sharing=20
topic, I've just talked to the California developer and he'd be=20
pleased to offer a 6 week free trial of the vShow collaboration=20
software to anyone in the Flashcom community. I've been using the=20
product since mid-May and have easily integrated it within my FCS web=20
conferencing applications.
To make things easy, I've just added a link on my website, so to=20
download your free trial software, simply go to=20
http://www.vlinklive.com/support.html and click on the "Download"=20
icon referring to the FREE trial. Complete the form and you'll=20
receive an email providing the password for your guest account. There=20
will also be a link in the email for you to download the software=20
including full tutorials on how to quickly set up and use the=20
software.
After you've downloaded your copy, don't hesitate to contact me and=20
I'll be pleased to share what I've learned especially how to=20
customize and add your corporate brand to the software.
cheers... dave
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| Dave Williams 2005-06-17, 5:45 pm |
| We use it with users on Windows XP, 2000, Mac OS X (others may work
but not tested)... they just need FLASH and therefore no client
download. The session host must currently be using Windows however
I'm told that will change soon.
cheers... dave
At 12:03 PM -0600 6/17/05, Jake Hilton wrote:
>Does it only run on widows?... I will check it out though... very cool.
>
>Thanks,
>Jake
>
>Morning...
>
>We've been researching desktop sharing for sometime and last month we=20
>finally found a FLASH solution that some of you may want to know=20
>about.
>
>We needed to have a simple Port 80 screen sharing available and=20
>without a dedicated IP address requirement. We didn't want any=20
>technical problems or the user to download special software. It had=20
>to use Flash so any guest could connect to a shared desktop with just=20
>a standard browser. Therefore we were quite amazed that the vShow=20
>product met all of our needs and could be purchased for $99 and run=20
>on my own web server. It was also only $20/mth if we didn't host it=20
>ourselves.
>
>Since many of us have been posting on the screen/application sharing=20
>topic, I've just talked to the California developer and he'd be=20
>pleased to offer a 6 week free trial of the vShow collaboration=20
>software to anyone in the Flashcom community. I've been using the=20
>product since mid-May and have easily integrated it within my FCS web=20
>conferencing applications.
>
>To make things easy, I've just added a link on my website, so to=20
>download your free trial software, simply go to=20
>http://www.vlinklive.com/support.html and click on the "Download"=20
>icon referring to the FREE trial. Complete the form and you'll=20
>receive an email providing the password for your guest account. There=20
>will also be a link in the email for you to download the software=20
>including full tutorials on how to quickly set up and use the=20
>software.
>
>After you've downloaded your copy, don't hesitate to contact me and=20
>I'll be pleased to share what I've learned especially how to=20
>customize and add your corporate brand to the software.
>
>cheers... dave
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