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| eworks.710044-opCBI309nnGakBO8gow8eQ@public.gm 2005-06-17, 5:45 pm |
| Hi Everybody,
I just saw your recent discussion about this and I just want
to tell you, that we have build a=20
full blown webconferencing solution with
a .Net=20
Administration and Audio/Video Transfer, PowerPoint Presentation
Facilities, Whiteboard, Co-Browsing, Chat, Note Taking, Participant List
etc.
The solution=20
- is based on FlashCommunication Server
- is written
in Flash
- uses .Net Remoting for writing and accessing data to and from
the MS SQL Server.
(If you want to know more, please refer to:
http://www.e-presenter.biz/help/admin_eng.pdf
http://www.e-presenter.biz/help/moderator_eng.pdf)
We have also already
included application sharing and streaming with VNC Server Technology. It
works like this:
1. Participant and Moderator log into Virtual Room (Session
ID is written)
2. Moderator has VNC Server installed on his desktop. This
version interact with a small gateway application on our server, checking
out password and connection ip. The Moderator can choose to share while d=
esktop,
part of it or a single application window.
3. The Moderator pushes aspx-page
to participant, which contains vnc-viewer applet. SessionId will be check=
ed
(If particpant do not have sessionId he will be banned) The paticipant do=
es
not need to have VNC installed.
4. App Sharing / Streaming begins
The solution so far uses port 5900 which does not work for all business c=
ustomers.
We are currently working on a http://tunneling version. I believe, that w=
e
will have finished this by the end of this month.
We are a training institute
in germany and we have build this solution for our own eLearnings.
The
first release of the software was in december 2004. Since then we have co=
ntinously
build more and more features in and it is now very stable. We are current=
ly
working on an bigger update with a new interface, app sharing, and more i=
nteresting
features.=20
When I read your postings I asked myself, whether our tool could
be worthwhile for you. We have invested a lot of time and money into the =
application,
so I can not give it away as open source. But I believe it would be possi=
ble
to sell and customize it for corporate customers. We have already done th=
at
for a big client in germany (with 5000 employers worldwide).
So maybe there
are some business opportunities here. But before I go ahead, I would like
to know: Is that interesting for you?
Kind Regards
Martin Weiss
www.e-works.de
PS: The german page for the e:presenter is at www.e-presenter.biz. The
application itself is multi-language.
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| Julio Cesar Ody 2005-06-18, 8:45 pm |
| Not bad, really. But in my case at least, it's not viable. Our
solution is all server side, with a few exceptions, which is the
client side flash applications that allow trainers/students to
interact.
The main reason for that is the fact that in at least 50% of all
possible situations, teachers will be using NAT, and if they do so,
forget about them being able to run a server software on their
computers. I mean, forget about people being able to connect to it
without you having a network administrator sitting all day long
waiting for a phone call to fix it.
That's why the Flashcom solution is good. It overcomes this issue by
acting like a hub where everybody meets, plus it also accepts
connection on port 80 TCP, tunneling RTP over HTTP. The reason why
it's not *great* is because it requires you to pay an expensive fee.
We built a similar solution that does all of this except co-browsing
and desktop sharing, because that would require some kind of server
software installed on the trainer's computer. Unless there's some way
to built a messaging mechanism between Flashcomm server and the
client's machine... and here's lie the bottom of it.
On 17 Jun 2005 17:16:12 -0000, eworks.710044-opCBI309nnGakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org
<eworks.710044-opCBI309nnGakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Hi Everybody,
>=20
> I just saw your recent discussion about this and I just want
> to tell you, that we have build a
> full blown webconferencing solution with
> a .Net
> Administration and Audio/Video Transfer, PowerPoint Presentation
>=20
> Facilities, Whiteboard, Co-Browsing, Chat, Note Taking, Participant List
> etc.
>=20
> The solution
> - is based on FlashCommunication Server
> - is written
> in Flash
> - uses .Net Remoting for writing and accessing data to and from
> the MS SQL Server.
>=20
> (If you want to know more, please refer to:
> http://www.e-presenter.biz/help/admin_eng.pdf
>=20
> http://www.e-presenter.biz/help/moderator_eng.pdf)
>=20
> We have also already
> included application sharing and streaming with VNC Server Technology. It
> works like this:
>=20
> 1. Participant and Moderator log into Virtual Room (Session
> ID is written)
>=20
> 2. Moderator has VNC Server installed on his desktop. This
> version interact with a small gateway application on our server, checking
> out password and connection ip. The Moderator can choose to share while d=
esktop,
> part of it or a single application window.
>=20
> 3. The Moderator pushes aspx-page
> to participant, which contains vnc-viewer applet. SessionId will be check=
ed
> (If particpant do not have sessionId he will be banned) The paticipant do=
es
> not need to have VNC installed.
>=20
> 4. App Sharing / Streaming begins
>=20
>=20
> The solution so far uses port 5900 which does not work for all business c=
ustomers.
> We are currently working on a http://tunneling version. I believe, that w=
e
> will have finished this by the end of this month.
>=20
> We are a training institute
> in germany and we have build this solution for our own eLearnings.
>=20
> The
> first release of the software was in december 2004. Since then we have co=
ntinously
> build more and more features in and it is now very stable. We are current=
ly
> working on an bigger update with a new interface, app sharing, and more i=
nteresting
> features.
>=20
> When I read your postings I asked myself, whether our tool could
> be worthwhile for you. We have invested a lot of time and money into the =
application,
> so I can not give it away as open source. But I believe it would be possi=
ble
> to sell and customize it for corporate customers. We have already done th=
at
> for a big client in germany (with 5000 employers worldwide).
>=20
> So maybe there
> are some business opportunities here. But before I go ahead, I would like
> to know: Is that interesting for you?
>=20
> Kind Regards
>=20
> Martin Weiss
> www.e-works.de
>=20
>=20
>=20
> PS: The german page for the e:presenter is at www.e-presenter.biz. The
> application itself is multi-language.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> =3D-----------------------------------------------------------
> Supported by Fig Leaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com
> =3D-----------------------------------------------------------
>=20
> To change your subscription options or search the archive:
> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcomm
>=20
--=20
Julio C. Ody
http://rootshell.be/~julioody
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