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| Mark de Jong 2006-01-03, 5:47 pm |
| Hi,
Is most of us probablly already know FlashLite 2 update for Flash 8 for has
been released on http://labs.macromedia.com. I was just curious about the
video-possibilities of FlashLite 2. As from what I have read FlashLite 2
will support video codecs on the specifec handset where it is installed on.
Does this mean only playback and recording with for instance 3gp (using a
flashinterface where flashlite 'talks' with the codec of the specific
handset) or does it also support the ability of FLV-playback and/or
-recording? Can't find anything about that anywhere and I'm just curious
where FlashLite 2 is heading with video.  Does anyone know?
Kind regards,
Mark de Jong
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| JesterXL 2006-01-03, 5:47 pm |
| Supports 3GP and mp4, FLV's don't work. At least, on my nokia 6680.
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Subject: [FlashComm] Wondering about FlashLite 2
Hi,
Is most of us probablly already know FlashLite 2 update for Flash 8 for has
been released on http://labs.macromedia.com. I was just curious about the
video-possibilities of FlashLite 2. As from what I have read FlashLite 2
will support video codecs on the specifec handset where it is installed on.
Does this mean only playback and recording with for instance 3gp (using a
flashinterface where flashlite 'talks' with the codec of the specific
handset) or does it also support the ability of FLV-playback and/or
-recording? Can't find anything about that anywhere and I'm just curious
where FlashLite 2 is heading with video. Does anyone know?
Kind regards,
Mark de Jong
NetMasters BV
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| Weyert de Boer 2006-01-03, 5:47 pm |
| JesterXL wrote:
> Supports 3GP and mp4, FLV's don't work. At least, on my nokia 6680.
Yep, that's correct won't work or the phone has to support it, such a
bummer if you ask me.
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| Stefan Richter 2006-01-03, 5:47 pm |
| Does FL2 even support NetConnection?
Stefan
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> Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Wondering about FlashLite 2
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> Supports 3GP and mp4, FLV's don't work. At least, on my nokia 6680.
>
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> Subject: [FlashComm] Wondering about FlashLite 2
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>
> Hi,
>
> Is most of us probablly already know FlashLite 2 update for
> Flash 8 for has
> been released on http://labs.macromedia.com. I was just
> curious about the
> video-possibilities of FlashLite 2. As from what I have read
> FlashLite 2
> will support video codecs on the specifec handset where it is
> installed on.
> Does this mean only playback and recording with for instance
> 3gp (using a
> flashinterface where flashlite 'talks' with the codec of the specific
> handset) or does it also support the ability of FLV-playback and/or
> -recording? Can't find anything about that anywhere and I'm
> just curious
> where FlashLite 2 is heading with video. Does anyone know?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Mark de Jong
> NetMasters BV
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| JesterXL 2006-01-03, 5:47 pm |
| Nope.
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Does FL2 even support NetConnection?
Stefan
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>
> Supports 3GP and mp4, FLV's don't work. At least, on my nokia 6680.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 4:01 PM
> Subject: [FlashComm] Wondering about FlashLite 2
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Is most of us probablly already know FlashLite 2 update for
> Flash 8 for has
> been released on http://labs.macromedia.com. I was just
> curious about the
> video-possibilities of FlashLite 2. As from what I have read
> FlashLite 2
> will support video codecs on the specifec handset where it is
> installed on.
> Does this mean only playback and recording with for instance
> 3gp (using a
> flashinterface where flashlite 'talks' with the codec of the specific
> handset) or does it also support the ability of FLV-playback and/or
> -recording? Can't find anything about that anywhere and I'm
> just curious
> where FlashLite 2 is heading with video. Does anyone know?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Mark de Jong
> NetMasters BV
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| Weyert de Boer 2006-01-03, 5:47 pm |
| Well, if I remind it correctly you could do on-demond encoding with
FMS2, right? I would think you could encode it to 3gp/mpeg at real-time
with some caching for the performance. Hmm, time to look into this.
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| Mark de Jong 2006-01-03, 5:47 pm |
| Weyert,
FMS2 does not support on-demand encoding as far as I know. It just recieves
and sends the video/audiostreams. Encoding is done with the Flashplayer
(Sorenson Spark) or hopefully somewhere in 2006 a software-encoder by Adobe
(could be a 'big' flashplayer or some sort of softare-package), ON2 or
something like that that you can run on a box. I even think that some
hardware-encoding (Viewcast?) could be something for 2006 but I cannot look
into the development of Adobe/ON2/Viewcast. Really hope that happens, would
be awesome!
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Onderwerp: Re: [FlashComm] Wondering about FlashLite 2
Well, if I remind it correctly you could do on-demond encoding with FMS2,
right? I would think you could encode it to 3gp/mpeg at real-time with some
caching for the performance. Hmm, time to look into this.
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| hank williams 2006-01-03, 5:47 pm |
| Oh bummer. So no remoting. Sounds like its still more for making games
than network aware applications.
Hank
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> Nope.
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> Does FL2 even support NetConnection?
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> Stefan
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| Weyert de Boer 2006-01-03, 5:47 pm |
| Stefan Richter wrote:
> Does FL2 even support NetConnection
Nope.
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| Jorge Giro 2006-01-03, 5:47 pm |
| Does anyone know if fl2 will suport the nokia n-gage?
Thanks
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| JesterXL 2006-01-03, 5:47 pm |
| Not true, homey! Check it:
http://www.jessewarden.com/archives...krmobile_a.html
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Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Wondering about FlashLite 2
Oh bummer. So no remoting. Sounds like its still more for making games
than network aware applications.
Hank
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> Nope.
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> Stefan
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| Mark de Jong 2006-01-03, 5:47 pm |
| Weyert,
No you cant't until you have a license to do so from ON2. That is why
ffmpeg will not support encoding to the ON2-codec and Red5 will not also
(well at least nog legal) from what I have understood.
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Verzonden: dinsdag 3 januari 2006 22:40
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Onderwerp: Re: [FlashComm] Wondering about FlashLite 2
Hi Mark,
> FMS2 does not support on-demand encoding as far as I know. It just
> recieves and sends the video/audiostreams.
Ooh, then I probably misunderstood some marketing blurb ;-)
> Encoding is done with the Flashplayer
> ...
> be awesome!
>
Yes, that would be indeed awesome. Of course we can build something
ourselves which will do some real-time encoding ;-)
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| Weyert de Boer 2006-01-03, 5:47 pm |
| Jorge Giro wrote:
> Does anyone know if fl2 will suport the nokia n-gage?
> Thanks
I don't think so, you can't better wait for some Adobe guy to answer
that question.
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| hank williams 2006-01-03, 5:47 pm |
| Jesse,
So are you saying it does do remoting? If so are you saying it does
support netconnection? If it does not support remoting, then while it
may be technically possible to access the network, Having to come up
with an entirely different, and inferior, mechanism for access to
remote procedures is not, at least for me, very network app friendly.
I have fairly substantial code libraries that I would not be able to
use without remoting. For me, given the size of my code base, making a
whole new networking infrastructure is a non starter.
Regards
Hank
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> http://www.jessewarden.com/archives...krmobile_a.html
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> Oh bummer. So no remoting. Sounds like its still more for making games
> than network aware applications.
>
> Hank
>
> On 1/3/06, JesterXL <jesterxl-RyEax5csP4NCVeB36W80OQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
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| hank williams 2006-01-03, 5:47 pm |
| Jesse,
I missed it the first time through.
I see what you did with php.
Of course I am using java, and I dont think it would be quite as easy.
Of course I guess anything can be done if you dedicate the time to it.
But if I am working on that, I am not doing something else that is
probably a higher priority.
Oh well.
Regards
Hank
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> Oh bummer. So no remoting. Sounds like its still more for making games
> than network aware applications.
>
> Hank
>
> On 1/3/06, JesterXL <jesterxl-RyEax5csP4NCVeB36W80OQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
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| Weyert de Boer 2006-01-03, 5:47 pm |
| hank williams wrote:
> Jesse,
>
> I missed it the first time through.
>
> I see what you did with php.
>
> Of course I am using java, and I dont think it would be quite as easy.
> Of course I guess anything can be done if you dedicate the time to it.
> But if I am working on that, I am not doing something else that is
> probably a higher priority.
I can't believe it will be much harder with Java. I don't know how you
wrote your services. But you might be able
to "decorate" (or some postfiltering to hijack the results) the normal
results into a representation which will nicely for the mobile. For
example a AMF -> XML conversion layer in between ;-)
Yours,
Weyert de Boer
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| hank williams 2006-01-03, 5:47 pm |
| Its mainly the XML apis.
I have some xml code in my server side services but they were a pain.
php is much more dynamic so I suspect working with xml in php is a
breeze.
I dont know if there are any new apis, but the one I used (I have to
look it up) required call backs and all sorts of stuff that just made
it not a breeze. Of course its totally doable, but for me so much of
my work is about getting into the right "mental space" to do a task. I
am not as young as Jesse who seems to be able to keep everything in
his head all at once. For me I have to look up stuff all the time -
even APIs that I have used before. I just cant remember APIs like I
used to. So it means relearning that and then making sure I am using
this fairly unfamiliar API in the right way.
If I wasnt at least a fairly good architect I think they might just
put me out to pasture.
Regards,
Hank
On 1/3/06, Weyert de Boer <wdb-WqTeb0HIzk1M0PWSD34TJQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> hank williams wrote:
> I can't believe it will be much harder with Java. I don't know how you
> wrote your services. But you might be able
> to "decorate" (or some postfiltering to hijack the results) the normal
> results into a representation which will nicely for the mobile. For
> example a AMF -> XML conversion layer in between ;-)
>
> Yours,
> Weyert de Boer
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| fabio Hernandez Cujino 2006-01-08, 5:45 pm |
| n-gage ? I don=B4t see the point, engage is on its way
out, and screens are changing,=20
if you=B4ve got at market for n-gage in europe, it must
be a very closed community,=20
fs2 does not work on mobile-s
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