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| Sean K. Moran 2006-01-13, 9:12 pm |
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Does anyone really understand how google video is working? I am
pretty certain there is not FMS behind them or Adobe would be sending
us press releases weekly. Progressive download with the streaming
benefits....
how how HOW??
<sob>
Oh, and I want there server farm to encode videos for me too. THanks.
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| Sean K. Moran 2006-01-13, 9:12 pm |
| Yeah, i was getting excited about that but hmm. I wonder if google is
using custom meta data for it?
strolls off to find out....
I was also disappointed that the guy from leaveitbehind.com/code has
been quiet for so long.
On Jan 9, 2006, at 9:20 PM, Luke Hubbard (luke-kJunwzwhcwxWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org) wrote:
> As for http streaming with seek, there are a few people working on it.
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> http://www.flashcomguru.com/index.c...ming-flv-video-
> via-PHP-take-two
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> -- Luke
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| Frederic v. Bochmann 2006-01-13, 9:12 pm |
| What are you guys looking for more?=20
Fredz./
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> I was also disappointed that the guy from leaveitbehind.com/code has
> been quiet for so long.
....i second that... the first few weeks i kept checking the site for the
promised update, but it never came 
the url to his post is:
http://www.leaveitbehind.com/code/2...ng_video_1.html
kind regards,
simon skr=F8dal
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| Simon Skrødal 2006-01-13, 9:12 pm |
| well, bugger me!
i didn't even realise that there actually was a part 3 up there now - lik=
e i
said, i checked for weeks after the initial two posts, but nothing came, =
so
i just presumed nothing had been updated still... i better go read...
cheers
simon skr=F8dal
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Subject: RE: [FlashComm] Google video is killing me.
What are you guys looking for more?
Fredz./
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> I was also disappointed that the guy from leaveitbehind.com/code has
> been quiet for so long.
....i second that... the first few weeks i kept checking the site for the
promised update, but it never came
the url to his post is:
http://www.leaveitbehind.com/code/2...ng_video_1.html
kind regards,
simon skr=F8dal
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| Sean Moran 2006-01-13, 9:12 pm |
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FWIW, I grabbed a random flv from google, and this was the metadata
bytelength = 9848814
framerate = 30.0000307850495
totaldatarate = 242.549322267134
audiodatarate = 64.3113476771141
videodatarate = 170.043166796477
height = 240
width = 320
totalduration = 324.833
starttime = 0.001
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| Sean Moran 2006-01-13, 9:12 pm |
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I was looking for another solution that doesn't require custom
metadata to be injected...the flashcomguru solution required the
insertion of keyframes.
Sean
On Jan 9, 2006, at 9:58 PM, Frederic v. Bochmann wrote:
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> What are you guys looking for more?
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| Frederic v. Bochmann 2006-01-13, 9:12 pm |
| I might be on to something.
I've managed to create a pure php page that silks 2 flv's or more together,
like a playlist. (created during my "hobby time" for Stefan Ritcher.)
Technically there are still bugs in it. I'm not treating the metadata so
typical players would most probably screw up. But the interesting thing is
that I'm actually running threw the file flv tag per tag and simply
re-writing them, but with a new timestamp.
The ideas would be. If you want another solution for seeking that involves
no extra meta-data injection, you'll be probably asking more work from the
server.....(it's a decision to take). So, technically the server could read
the file, till it finds the right timestamp and start spitting from there.
(including the header).
Want such a thing? :P
Sincerely
Fredz./
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Sent: January 10, 2006 12:27 AM
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Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Google video is killing me.
I was looking for another solution that doesn't require custom
metadata to be injected...the flashcomguru solution required the
insertion of keyframes.
Sean
On Jan 9, 2006, at 9:58 PM, Frederic v. Bochmann wrote:
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| Ritesh Jariwala 2006-01-13, 9:12 pm |
| Interested to see demo when its ready.
With Regards,
Ritesh Jariwala (Actkid)
Freelance Developer
www.actkid.com
Company: www.synonymic.com
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Sent: 10 January 2006 11:10
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Subject: RE: [FlashComm] Google video is killing me.
I might be on to something.
I've managed to create a pure php page that silks 2 flv's or more together,
like a playlist. (created during my "hobby time" for Stefan Ritcher.)
Technically there are still bugs in it. I'm not treating the metadata so
typical players would most probably screw up. But the interesting thing is
that I'm actually running threw the file flv tag per tag and simply
re-writing them, but with a new timestamp.
The ideas would be. If you want another solution for seeking that involves
no extra meta-data injection, you'll be probably asking more work from the
server.....(it's a decision to take). So, technically the server could read
the file, till it finds the right timestamp and start spitting from there.
(including the header).
Want such a thing? :P
Sincerely
Fredz./
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Sent: January 10, 2006 12:27 AM
To: FlashComm Mailing List
Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Google video is killing me.
I was looking for another solution that doesn't require custom
metadata to be injected...the flashcomguru solution required the
insertion of keyframes.
Sean
On Jan 9, 2006, at 9:58 PM, Frederic v. Bochmann wrote:
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> What are you guys looking for more?
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| Frederic v. Bochmann 2006-01-13, 9:12 pm |
| Is that information you got from the "onMetaData" call? Or did you scan the
flv for all possible event's injected?
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FWIW, I grabbed a random flv from google, and this was the metadata
bytelength = 9848814
framerate = 30.0000307850495
totaldatarate = 242.549322267134
audiodatarate = 64.3113476771141
videodatarate = 170.043166796477
height = 240
width = 320
totalduration = 324.833
starttime = 0.001
duration = 324.832
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| Frederic v. Bochmann 2006-01-13, 9:12 pm |
| Problem is, I don't have a real host bandwidth to offer demos of stuff like
that:P.
*I wouldn't be able to surf the web anymore.
Fredz./
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Jariwala
Sent: January 10, 2006 12:45 AM
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Subject: RE: [FlashComm] Google video is killing me.
Interested to see demo when its ready.
With Regards,
Ritesh Jariwala (Actkid)
Freelance Developer
www.actkid.com
Company: www.synonymic.com
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Sent: 10 January 2006 11:10
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Subject: RE: [FlashComm] Google video is killing me.
I might be on to something.
I've managed to create a pure php page that silks 2 flv's or more together,
like a playlist. (created during my "hobby time" for Stefan Ritcher.)
Technically there are still bugs in it. I'm not treating the metadata so
typical players would most probably screw up. But the interesting thing is
that I'm actually running threw the file flv tag per tag and simply
re-writing them, but with a new timestamp.
The ideas would be. If you want another solution for seeking that involves
no extra meta-data injection, you'll be probably asking more work from the
server.....(it's a decision to take). So, technically the server could read
the file, till it finds the right timestamp and start spitting from there.
(including the header).
Want such a thing? :P
Sincerely
Fredz./
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Sent: January 10, 2006 12:27 AM
To: FlashComm Mailing List
Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Google video is killing me.
I was looking for another solution that doesn't require custom
metadata to be injected...the flashcomguru solution required the
insertion of keyframes.
Sean
On Jan 9, 2006, at 9:58 PM, Frederic v. Bochmann wrote:
>
> What are you guys looking for more?
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| Sean Moran 2006-01-13, 9:12 pm |
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That is just an onMetaData call
On Jan 9, 2006, at 10:45 PM, Frederic v. Bochmann wrote:
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> Is that information you got from the "onMetaData" call? Or did you
> scan the
> flv for all possible event's injected?
>
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> [mailto:flashcomm-bounces-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Sean
> Moran
> Sent: January 10, 2006 12:26 AM
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> Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Google video is killing me.
>
>
> FWIW, I grabbed a random flv from google, and this was the metadata
>
> bytelength = 9848814
> framerate = 30.0000307850495
> totaldatarate = 242.549322267134
> audiodatarate = 64.3113476771141
> videodatarate = 170.043166796477
> height = 240
> width = 320
> totalduration = 324.833
> starttime = 0.001
> duration = 324.832
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| Sean Moran 2006-01-13, 9:12 pm |
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Would be interesting to see.
On Jan 9, 2006, at 10:40 PM, Frederic v. Bochmann wrote:
> I might be on to something.
>
> I've managed to create a pure php page that silks 2 flv's or more
> together,
> like a playlist. (created during my "hobby time" for Stefan Ritcher.)
>
> Technically there are still bugs in it. I'm not treating the
> metadata so
> typical players would most probably screw up. But the interesting
> thing is
> that I'm actually running threw the file flv tag per tag and simply
> re-writing them, but with a new timestamp.
>
> The ideas would be. If you want another solution for seeking that
> involves
> no extra meta-data injection, you'll be probably asking more work
> from the
> server.....(it's a decision to take). So, technically the server
> could read
> the file, till it finds the right timestamp and start spitting from
> there.
> (including the header).
>
> Want such a thing? :P
>
> Sincerely
> Fredz./
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| Frederic v. Bochmann 2006-01-13, 9:12 pm |
| Give it a week or two, for a little polish & || time too. (I'm being
preservative here with two weeks!)
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Sent: January 10, 2006 12:54 AM
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Would be interesting to see.
On Jan 9, 2006, at 10:40 PM, Frederic v. Bochmann wrote:
> I might be on to something.
>
> I've managed to create a pure php page that silks 2 flv's or more
> together,
> like a playlist. (created during my "hobby time" for Stefan Ritcher.)
>
> Technically there are still bugs in it. I'm not treating the
> metadata so
> typical players would most probably screw up. But the interesting
> thing is
> that I'm actually running threw the file flv tag per tag and simply
> re-writing them, but with a new timestamp.
>
> The ideas would be. If you want another solution for seeking that
> involves
> no extra meta-data injection, you'll be probably asking more work
> from the
> server.....(it's a decision to take). So, technically the server
> could read
> the file, till it finds the right timestamp and start spitting from
> there.
> (including the header).
>
> Want such a thing? :P
>
> Sincerely
> Fredz./
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| Stefan Richter 2006-01-13, 9:12 pm |
| We can put it on my box...
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> Frederic v. Bochmann
> Sent: 10 January 2006 05:51
> To: 'FlashComm Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: [FlashComm] Google video is killing me.
>
> Problem is, I don't have a real host bandwidth to offer demos
> of stuff like that:P.
> *I wouldn't be able to surf the web anymore.
>
>
>
> Fredz./
>
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> Ritesh Jariwala
> Sent: January 10, 2006 12:45 AM
> To: 'FlashComm Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: [FlashComm] Google video is killing me.
>
> Interested to see demo when its ready.
>
> With Regards,
>
> Ritesh Jariwala (Actkid)
> Freelance Developer
> www.actkid.com
> Company: www.synonymic.com
>
>
>
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> [mailto:flashcomm-bounces-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of
> Frederic v.
> Bochmann
> Sent: 10 January 2006 11:10
> To: 'FlashComm Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: [FlashComm] Google video is killing me.
>
> I might be on to something.
>
> I've managed to create a pure php page that silks 2 flv's or
> more together, like a playlist. (created during my "hobby
> time" for Stefan Ritcher.)
>
> Technically there are still bugs in it. I'm not treating the
> metadata so typical players would most probably screw up. But
> the interesting thing is that I'm actually running threw the
> file flv tag per tag and simply re-writing them, but with a
> new timestamp.
>
> The ideas would be. If you want another solution for seeking
> that involves no extra meta-data injection, you'll be
> probably asking more work from the server.....(it's a
> decision to take). So, technically the server could read the
> file, till it finds the right timestamp and start spitting from there.
> (including the header).
>
> Want such a thing? :P
>
> Sincerely
> Fredz./
>
>
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> [mailto:flashcomm-bounces-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of
> Sean Moran
> Sent: January 10, 2006 12:27 AM
> To: FlashComm Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Google video is killing me.
>
>
> I was looking for another solution that doesn't require
> custom metadata to be injected...the flashcomguru solution
> required the insertion of keyframes.
>
> Sean
>
> On Jan 9, 2006, at 9:58 PM, Frederic v. Bochmann wrote:
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| Frederic v. Bochmann 2006-01-13, 9:12 pm |
| Sure!.
I just need to send you my last version of the flv seek php page.
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Subject: RE: [FlashComm] Google video is killing me.
We can put it on my box...
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> Frederic v. Bochmann
> Sent: 10 January 2006 05:51
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> Subject: RE: [FlashComm] Google video is killing me.
>
> Problem is, I don't have a real host bandwidth to offer demos
> of stuff like that:P.
> *I wouldn't be able to surf the web anymore.
>
>
>
> Fredz./
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> Ritesh Jariwala
> Sent: January 10, 2006 12:45 AM
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> Subject: RE: [FlashComm] Google video is killing me.
>
> Interested to see demo when its ready.
>
> With Regards,
>
> Ritesh Jariwala (Actkid)
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> Frederic v.
> Bochmann
> Sent: 10 January 2006 11:10
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> Subject: RE: [FlashComm] Google video is killing me.
>
> I might be on to something.
>
> I've managed to create a pure php page that silks 2 flv's or
> more together, like a playlist. (created during my "hobby
> time" for Stefan Ritcher.)
>
> Technically there are still bugs in it. I'm not treating the
> metadata so typical players would most probably screw up. But
> the interesting thing is that I'm actually running threw the
> file flv tag per tag and simply re-writing them, but with a
> new timestamp.
>
> The ideas would be. If you want another solution for seeking
> that involves no extra meta-data injection, you'll be
> probably asking more work from the server.....(it's a
> decision to take). So, technically the server could read the
> file, till it finds the right timestamp and start spitting from there.
> (including the header).
>
> Want such a thing? :P
>
> Sincerely
> Fredz./
>
>
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> Sean Moran
> Sent: January 10, 2006 12:27 AM
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> Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Google video is killing me.
>
>
> I was looking for another solution that doesn't require
> custom metadata to be injected...the flashcomguru solution
> required the insertion of keyframes.
>
> Sean
>
> On Jan 9, 2006, at 9:58 PM, Frederic v. Bochmann wrote:
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| Sean K. Moran 2006-01-13, 9:12 pm |
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I was diggin into the googleplayer.swf and see some interesting
things. Lots of math, they seem to be tracking the amount of video
that has been preloaded, and use some logic to do the seek. When you
seek past the area downloaded, it is almost that they open the file
new at that point...you can see it in the progress bar...the dark
grey color (downloaded vid) shifts and begins from the seek to point.
Do you suspect they are using cgi for the file reads? When you hit a
url lik
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...129751681655830
what do you think videoplay is?
Sean
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| Naicu Octavian 2006-01-13, 9:12 pm |
| >If you want another solution for seeking that involves
>no extra meta-data injection, you'll be probably asking more work from t=
he
>server.....(it's a decision to take). So, technically the server could r=
ead
>the file, till it finds the right timestamp and start spitting from ther=
e.
>(including the header).=20
I was on to that a few months ago too, but I gave up on the way because I=
just could not get a fix on those timestamps tags. Interesting to see ho=
w much server-load this will create. I think it is a feasible solution th=
at goes on top of "Php streming". The additional load will be created on=
ly when people are seeking. Again special player needed again.
"Frederic v. Bochmann" <fredericbochmann-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg@public.gmane.org> wrote: I might be =
on to something.
I've managed to create a pure php page that silks 2 flv's or more togethe=
r,
like a playlist. (created during my "hobby time" for Stefan Ritcher.)
Technically there are still bugs in it. I'm not treating the metadata so
typical players would most probably screw up. But the interesting thing i=
s
that I'm actually running threw the file flv tag per tag and simply
re-writing them, but with a new timestamp.
The ideas would be. If you want another solution for seeking that involve=
s
no extra meta-data injection, you'll be probably asking more work from th=
e
server.....(it's a decision to take). So, technically the server could re=
ad
the file, till it finds the right timestamp and start spitting from there=
..
(including the header).=20
Want such a thing? :P
Sincerely
Fredz./
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Sent: January 10, 2006 12:27 AM
To: FlashComm Mailing List
Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Google video is killing me.
I was looking for another solution that doesn't require custom =20
metadata to be injected...the flashcomguru solution required the =20
insertion of keyframes.
Sean
On Jan 9, 2006, at 9:58 PM, Frederic v. Bochmann wrote:
>
> What are you guys looking for more?
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| Naicu Octavian 2006-01-13, 9:12 pm |
| Maybe that is why they have all that "high resolution" meta data informat=
ion. They calculate the byte position to jump to (the ones we get injecte=
d int the flv by Buraks latest FLVMDI  ) client side, or very closely a=
pproximate it.
>bytelength =3D 9848814
>framerate =3D 30.0000307850495
>totaldatarate =3D 242.549322267134
>audiodatarate =3D 64.3113476771141
>videodatarate =3D 170.043166796477
>height =3D 240
>width =3D 320
>totalduration =3D 324.833
>starttime =3D 0.001
Also while you are on it, don't forget to check out the best movie on Goo=
gle video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...729044185365846
duration =3D 324.832
"Sean K. Moran" <sean-mzx94KdJ7Zk@public.gmane.org> wrote:=20
I was diggin into the googleplayer.swf and see some interesting =20
things. Lots of math, they seem to be tracking the amount of video =20
that has been preloaded, and use some logic to do the seek. When you =20
seek past the area downloaded, it is almost that they open the file =20
new at that point...you can see it in the progress bar...the dark =20
grey color (downloaded vid) shifts and begins from the seek to point.
Do you suspect they are using cgi for the file reads? When you hit a =20
url lik
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...129751681655830
what do you think videoplay is?
Sean
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| Frederic v. Bochmann 2006-01-13, 9:12 pm |
| HAhahaha laughing out loud, cute video of the day.
Here's another one:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...646050642417046
(unrelated)
You where saying:
"...client side, or very closely approximate it."
Approximating doesn't work for me. That's how I've tried it the first time
that I attempted to seek an FLV. Maybe I did something wrong, and no, I
didn't try using the totaldatarate value to calculate the position, I only
used a percentage of the time to reflect it on the file size (doesn't really
make sense to do so, but hey! that's what testing is all about). Maybe there
is something to do with that!! This idea would need to be revisited.
Cheers
Fredz./
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[mailto:flashcomm-bounces-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Naicu Octavian
Sent: January 10, 2006 2:51 PM
To: FlashComm Mailing List
Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Google video is killing me.
Maybe that is why they have all that "high resolution" meta data
information. They calculate the byte position to jump to (the ones we get
injected int the flv by Buraks latest FLVMDI ) client side, or very
closely approximate it.
>bytelength = 9848814
>framerate = 30.0000307850495
>totaldatarate = 242.549322267134
>audiodatarate = 64.3113476771141
>videodatarate = 170.043166796477
>height = 240
>width = 320
>totalduration = 324.833
>starttime = 0.001
Also while you are on it, don't forget to check out the best movie on Google
video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...729044185365846
duration = 324.832
"Sean K. Moran" <sean-mzx94KdJ7Zk@public.gmane.org> wrote:
I was diggin into the googleplayer.swf and see some interesting
things. Lots of math, they seem to be tracking the amount of video
that has been preloaded, and use some logic to do the seek. When you
seek past the area downloaded, it is almost that they open the file
new at that point...you can see it in the progress bar...the dark
grey color (downloaded vid) shifts and begins from the seek to point.
Do you suspect they are using cgi for the file reads? When you hit a
url lik
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...129751681655830
what do you think videoplay is?
Sean
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| Naicu Octavian 2006-01-13, 9:12 pm |
| I was thinking about approximating the value to which to seek on the clie=
nt side, to ease the task of looking for the exact value server side.
Another great video that was...)
"Frederic v. Bochmann" <fredericbochmann-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg@public.gmane.org> wrote: HAhahaha la=
ughing out loud, cute video of the day.
Here's another one:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...646050642417046
(unrelated)
You where saying:=20
"...client side, or very closely approximate it."
Approximating doesn't work for me. That's how I've tried it the first tim=
e
that I attempted to seek an FLV. Maybe I did something wrong, and no, I
didn't try using the totaldatarate value to calculate the position, I onl=
y
used a percentage of the time to reflect it on the file size (doesn't rea=
lly
make sense to do so, but hey! that's what testing is all about). Maybe th=
ere
is something to do with that!! This idea would need to be revisited.
Cheers
Fredz./
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[mailto:flashcomm-bounces-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Naicu Octav=
ian
Sent: January 10, 2006 2:51 PM
To: FlashComm Mailing List
Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Google video is killing me.
Maybe that is why they have all that "high resolution" meta data
information. They calculate the byte position to jump to (the ones we get
injected int the flv by Buraks latest FLVMDI ) client side, or very
closely approximate it.
>bytelength =3D 9848814
>framerate =3D 30.0000307850495
>totaldatarate =3D 242.549322267134
>audiodatarate =3D 64.3113476771141
>videodatarate =3D 170.043166796477
>height =3D 240
>width =3D 320
>totalduration =3D 324.833
>starttime =3D 0.001
Also while you are on it, don't forget to check out the best movie on Goo=
gle
video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...729044185365846
duration =3D 324.832
"Sean K. Moran" wrote:=20
I was diggin into the googleplayer.swf and see some interesting =20
things. Lots of math, they seem to be tracking the amount of video =20
that has been preloaded, and use some logic to do the seek. When you =20
seek past the area downloaded, it is almost that they open the file =20
new at that point...you can see it in the progress bar...the dark =20
grey color (downloaded vid) shifts and begins from the seek to point.
Do you suspect they are using cgi for the file reads? When you hit a =20
url lik
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...129751681655830
what do you think videoplay is?
Sean
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| Frederic v. Bochmann 2006-01-13, 9:12 pm |
| Yeah, makes perfect sense! But then I had the problem that I don't know yet,
how to do or even if it's possible to, start reading the FLV Tags from an
approximated location that might start in the middle of a frame data...(It
causes my tag reading code to be totally offset and give bad values and
screws up). If there is a sure way of finding out the "start" byte-offset of
the next upcoming flv tag starting at a totally random location, I'm sure
it'll be possible to enhance the seeking time/strain/performance of the
server code.
Any information on people's experiences would be very nice to hear of.
Cheers!
Fredz./
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[mailto:flashcomm-bounces-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Naicu Octavian
Sent: January 10, 2006 4:47 PM
To: FlashComm Mailing List
Subject: RE: [FlashComm] Google video is killing me.
I was thinking about approximating the value to which to seek on the client
side, to ease the task of looking for the exact value server side.
Another great video that was...)
"Frederic v. Bochmann" <fredericbochmann-rieW9WUcm8FFJ04o6PK0Fg@public.gmane.org> wrote: HAhahaha
laughing out loud, cute video of the day.
Here's another one:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...646050642417046
(unrelated)
You where saying:
"...client side, or very closely approximate it."
Approximating doesn't work for me. That's how I've tried it the first time
that I attempted to seek an FLV. Maybe I did something wrong, and no, I
didn't try using the totaldatarate value to calculate the position, I only
used a percentage of the time to reflect it on the file size (doesn't really
make sense to do so, but hey! that's what testing is all about). Maybe there
is something to do with that!! This idea would need to be revisited.
Cheers
Fredz./
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From: flashcomm-bounces-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org
[mailto:flashcomm-bounces-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Naicu Octavian
Sent: January 10, 2006 2:51 PM
To: FlashComm Mailing List
Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Google video is killing me.
Maybe that is why they have all that "high resolution" meta data
information. They calculate the byte position to jump to (the ones we get
injected int the flv by Buraks latest FLVMDI ) client side, or very
closely approximate it.
>bytelength = 9848814
>framerate = 30.0000307850495
>totaldatarate = 242.549322267134
>audiodatarate = 64.3113476771141
>videodatarate = 170.043166796477
>height = 240
>width = 320
>totalduration = 324.833
>starttime = 0.001
Also while you are on it, don't forget to check out the best movie on Google
video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...729044185365846
duration = 324.832
"Sean K. Moran" wrote:
I was diggin into the googleplayer.swf and see some interesting
things. Lots of math, they seem to be tracking the amount of video
that has been preloaded, and use some logic to do the seek. When you
seek past the area downloaded, it is almost that they open the file
new at that point...you can see it in the progress bar...the dark
grey color (downloaded vid) shifts and begins from the seek to point.
Do you suspect they are using cgi for the file reads? When you hit a
url lik
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...129751681655830
what do you think videoplay is?
Sean
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