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| hi there
i would like to make a 'youtube' interface on a website
that means i would like to allow users to download videos
on my website and then let other people watch them
but in a flash interface so they don't need any player
there are two solutions I see :
- the user downloads the video on my website, and the server
automatically transforms the video in a swf format
- the user downloads the video on my website, but the
video stays in its original format but i make an application that
reads and streams the video (whatever its format is) in flash
The first solution seems to be the best but would take a lot of server
performances if for example 100 videos are transmitted by 100 users simult.
the server would have to transform avi, mp4 etc in swf sumult.
the second solution is maybe impossible to do as far as I don't know
if a flash player can automatic. read a avi/mp4/an format and stream it
Do I have to use flash media server for it ?
Thanks in advance
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| Bill Sanders 2006-04-24, 7:59 am |
| Mystery Person,
Your two options cannot be done with Flash. Here's another option--
turn all of the videos into FLV files. Make duplicates of the FLV
files and put them into a zip file. When the user makes a selection,
she gets the zip file, which downloads. At the same time, have the
FLV file begin playing for the user to view. (You'll have to turn WMV
and MP4 files into either AVI or MOV files first and then turn them
into FLV files using Flash 8.)
FLV files can be executed with either FMS2 or using progressive
download, which is a pseudo-stream that can be run from a regular Web
server. However, you get true streaming with FMS2 and so to actually
stream video using Flash, I'd recommend FMS2.
HTH,
Bill
On Apr 22, 2006, at 11:07 PM, <viensvoirtonton-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> hi there
>
> i would like to make a 'youtube' interface on a website
> that means i would like to allow users to download videos
> on my website and then let other people watch them
> but in a flash interface so they don't need any player
>
> there are two solutions I see :
> - the user downloads the video on my website, and the server
> automatically transforms the video in a swf format
>
> - the user downloads the video on my website, but the
> video stays in its original format but i make an application that
> reads and streams the video (whatever its format is) in flash
>
> The first solution seems to be the best but would take a lot of
> server performances if for example 100 videos are transmitted by
> 100 users simult.
> the server would have to transform avi, mp4 etc in swf sumult.
>
> the second solution is maybe impossible to do as far as I don't know
> if a flash player can automatic. read a avi/mp4/an format and
> stream it
>
> Do I have to use flash media server for it ?
>
> Thanks in advance
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| Hi Bill
My name is Amos .. it's just
that my email is a french email
Thanks for your answer
The thing is that I need people to upload videos
on my server (like youtube for example) in any format (mpg quicktime avi
etc)
and then everybody will be able to watch these videos in flash
(like youtube for example) but not in streaming
(stream would be the best but is not necessary)
so the 1st step is that the user downloads the file on my server
then :
either we transform directly this file in swf or flv format
or we make a flash application that shows those files
I don't know which is the best that's all ..
Thank you guys anyway
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Sanders" <wdsanders-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
To: "FlashComm Mailing List" <flashcomm-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [FlashComm] movie format
> Mystery Person,
>
> Your two options cannot be done with Flash. Here's another option--
> turn all of the videos into FLV files. Make duplicates of the FLV files
> and put them into a zip file. When the user makes a selection, she gets
> the zip file, which downloads. At the same time, have the FLV file begin
> playing for the user to view. (You'll have to turn WMV and MP4 files into
> either AVI or MOV files first and then turn them into FLV files using
> Flash 8.)
>
> FLV files can be executed with either FMS2 or using progressive download,
> which is a pseudo-stream that can be run from a regular Web server.
> However, you get true streaming with FMS2 and so to actually stream video
> using Flash, I'd recommend FMS2.
>
> HTH,
> Bill
>
> On Apr 22, 2006, at 11:07 PM, <viensvoirtonton-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>
> bill sanders | www.sandlight.com | bloomfield, ct | 860-242-2260
>
>
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| Brian Lesser 2006-04-24, 7:59 am |
| Hi Amos,
I'd go for using a program like Sorenson to do a one time conversion to
flv.
Yours truly,
-Brian
viensvoirtonton-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
> Hi Bill
>
> My name is Amos .. it's just
> that my email is a french email
>
> Thanks for your answer
>
> The thing is that I need people to upload videos
> on my server (like youtube for example) in any format (mpg quicktime
> avi etc)
> and then everybody will be able to watch these videos in flash
> (like youtube for example) but not in streaming
> (stream would be the best but is not necessary)
>
> so the 1st step is that the user downloads the file on my server
> then :
> either we transform directly this file in swf or flv format
> or we make a flash application that shows those files
>
> I don't know which is the best that's all ..
>
> Thank you guys anyway
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Sanders" <wdsanders-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
> To: "FlashComm Mailing List" <flashcomm-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 10:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [FlashComm] movie format
>
>
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| Thanx Brian
Don't you think if I have 100 people doing it simult.
that my server could just burn ?
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Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: [FlashComm] movie format
> Hi Amos,
> I'd go for using a program like Sorenson to do a one time conversion to
> flv.
> Yours truly,
> -Brian
>
> viensvoirtonton-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
>
>
>
>
> --
> ________________________________________
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> Brian Lesser
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> Computing and Communications Services
> Ryerson University
> 350 Victoria St.
> Toronto, Ontario Phone: (416) 979-5000 ext. 6835
> M5B 2K3 Fax: (416) 979-5220
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| Brian Lesser 2006-04-24, 7:59 am |
| Sure but your server will burn if you try to do it on the fly for sure
because you will do it more often...
Anyway, I'm not aware of a more pratical alternative that works... maybe
someone else is?
Another solution is to share the drive on your server with a second
machine that queues up and does the conversions. If everyone uploads at
once they wait longer but it gets done.
Anyone know a better way?
Yours truly,
-Brian
viensvoirtonton-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
> Thanx Brian
>
> Don't you think if I have 100 people doing it simult.
> that my server could just burn ?
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lesser" <blesser-6s6ziW1YCwCw5LPnMra/2Q@public.gmane.org>
> To: "FlashComm Mailing List" <flashcomm-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 2:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [FlashComm] movie format
>
>
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| I think your idea is the best
and I think that's what youtube does (can we take youtube
like a reference for this today ? i would rather say yes)
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 2:58 AM
Subject: Re: [FlashComm] movie format
> Sure but your server will burn if you try to do it on the fly for sure
> because you will do it more often...
> Anyway, I'm not aware of a more pratical alternative that works... maybe
> someone else is?
> Another solution is to share the drive on your server with a second
> machine that queues up and does the conversions. If everyone uploads at
> once they wait longer but it gets done.
> Anyone know a better way?
> Yours truly,
> -Brian
>
> viensvoirtonton-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
>
>
>
>
> --
> ________________________________________
______________________________
> Brian Lesser
> Assistant Director, Teaching and Technology Support
> Computing and Communications Services
> Ryerson University
> 350 Victoria St.
> Toronto, Ontario Phone: (416) 979-5000 ext. 6835
> M5B 2K3 Fax: (416) 979-5220
> Office: AB48D E-mail: blesser-6s6ziW1YCwCw5LPnMra/2Q@public.gmane.org
> (Enter through LB66) Web: http://www.ryerson.ca/~blesser
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