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| Yi-Lei Wu 2006-05-23, 1:11 pm |
| Hi list,
This may not fit into the FlashCom list, but the matter sure concerns it. on
the client's side.
I am receiving a lot of complaints of Flash Player 8 and its annoying
security setting. Why do we have to go to Macromedia website to setup
security preferences? This may seem to be a simple step for computer geeks
like me, but for normal users this step is so extravagant and difficult!
Not many people know what the heck those security settings are, and my
clients simply complain about the application not being able to work
properly.
I have taken my time over and over again to try to explain to them what to
do. I would even write a guide about it, but it won't help the fact that
this step can't be bypassed.
And that's just one reason why I am writing this. The other reason is that a
lot of my users happen to reside in China, and apparently when they click to
set the security settings on their Flash Player 8, it opens a 404 page!!! I
was astonished when I saw it happen.
My goodness, this is bad. seriously bad.. Maybe I should've written this
letter as a complaint to Macromedia/Adobe. but I really want to post it here
instead. because I know there are REAL people here.
In my mind I have taunted Macromedia/Adobe many times just on how badly this
is when Flash Player 8 settings page opens up a 404 for Simplified Chinese
version. On the other hand. the only thing I could say to my clients is. get
rid of Flash Player 8, use Flash Player 7..
Best regards,
Peter Wu
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| FTOUCH-YDxpq3io04c@public.gmane.org 2006-05-23, 1:11 pm |
| Hello Peter
Looks to me that Macromedia was right for forcing users to set up security
using the MM site. If security preferences can be determind by an application,
abusers of the service will create a security havoc.
As a direct result of that Flash will loose forever the corporate market.
I dont like many of MM policies but this time they are right!
David Evgey
In a message dated 5/23/2006 12:01:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
iwscol-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org writes:
>
> Hi list,
>
>
>
> This may not fit into the FlashCom list, but the matter sure concerns it. on
> the client's side.
>
>
>
> I am receiving a lot of complaints of Flash Player 8 and its annoying
> security setting. Why do we have to go to Macromedia website to setup
> security preferences? This may seem to be a simple step for computer geeks
> like me, but for normal users this step is so extravagant and difficult!
>
>
>
> Not many people know what the heck those security settings are, and my
> clients simply complain about the application not being able to work
> properly.
>
>
>
> I have taken my time over and over again to try to explain to them what to
> do. I would even write a guide about it, but it won't help the fact that
> this step can't be bypassed.
>
>
>
> And that's just one reason why I am writing this. The other reason is that a
> lot of my users happen to reside in China, and apparently when they click to
> set the security settings on their Flash Player 8, it opens a 404 page!!! I
> was astonished when I saw it happen.
>
>
>
> My goodness, this is bad. seriously bad.. Maybe I should've written this
> letter as a complaint to Macromedia/Adobe. but I really want to post it here
> instead. because I know there are REAL people here.
>
>
>
> In my mind I have taunted Macromedia/Adobe many times just on how badly this
> is when Flash Player 8 settings page opens up a 404 for Simplified Chinese
> version. On the other hand. the only thing I could say to my clients is. get
> rid of Flash Player 8, use Flash Player 7..
>
>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Peter Wu
>
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| Simon Lord 2006-05-23, 7:11 pm |
| Well, it's good, but Adobe should consider a Verisign setup whereby a
company can buy a certificate from Adobe for $$$ thus allowing the
client to point the user to a page that resides on their server and
not Adobe's.
More money for Adobe (subscription money no less), and allows the
developer to match that security page to their corporate style (no
new windows, no "WTF" moments for the client etc).
Actually, since AMF, RTMP don't (and likely won't) generate the same
kind of revenue for Adobe if Open Source development goes unchecked,
then this would be a great way to cash in on successful and serious
RIA's made by corporate partners - certificate of authenticity and
trust for RIA's built using Flex. Kind of like an SSL certificate,
"this RIA is not signed... continue?" would appear when trying access
the camera or to read or write data locally or to a server.
I'd rather deal with the cost of buying a certificate than dealing
with uncertainties like "will Adobe pounce on Open Source AMF/RTMP
developers in a few years and kill my product because I'm trying to
save a few bucks". And it would likely be a marketing win since the
public can continue developing Open Source knowing Adobe is not going
to sue their XXX *whenever*.
This certificate would allow us to replace the settings and about
links from the context menu with our own SWF's. Now that would rock
(only if your goal is to control the user experience and not be a
floating banner for Adobe product links in your RIA).
Just thinking out loud here, not sure if I buy into my own BS... but
I WOULD LOVE to be rid of these security warnings and remove that
"About Flash Player" context menu link. They make NO SENSE in an RIA.
On May 23, 2006, at 1:18 PM, FTOUCH-YDxpq3io04c@public.gmane.org wrote:
> Hello Peter
>
> Looks to me that Macromedia was right for forcing users to set up
> security
> using the MM site. If security preferences can be determind by an
> application,
> abusers of the service will create a security havoc.
>
> As a direct result of that Flash will loose forever the corporate
> market.
>
> I dont like many of MM policies but this time they are right!
>
> David Evgey
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 5/23/2006 12:01:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> iwscol-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org writes:
>
>
>
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