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| Stefan Richter 2006-07-07, 1:12 pm |
| Ok Jesse,
I wasn't discouraged and gave FDS a try. It installed fine, the integrated
JRUN server started up fine, I was able to view a page at
localhost:8700/samples
BUT - none of the sample apps would run. Each one would throw a nullpointer
exception. I gave up at that point LOL
Stefan
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| hank williams 2006-07-07, 1:12 pm |
| Are you using the latest versions of everything? There are big differences
between the various betas of the flex2 framework and the player. So if, for
example the sample app is from final code but either your player or your
framework is not, things wont work.
Regards
Hank
On 7/7/06, Stefan Richter <stefan-fMeCE+ULXElEfu+5ix1nRw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> Ok Jesse,
> I wasn't discouraged and gave FDS a try. It installed fine, the integrated
> JRUN server started up fine, I was able to view a page at
> localhost:8700/samples
>
> BUT - none of the sample apps would run. Each one would throw a
> nullpointer
> exception. I gave up at that point LOL
>
> Stefan
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| Stefan Richter 2006-07-07, 1:12 pm |
| Thanks Hank,
Latest install of everything.
I've also installed the CF 7.0.2 updater. However when I point Eclipse at
the ZIP archive which should supposedly install the CF support for Eclipse
it fails and complains that no software update is available. I copied the
files manually into Eclipse and this seems to work. However Eclipse now
complains about a missing 'feature.xml in zip' when I try a software update.
I can't put my finger on it but there seem to be some rough edges to this.
Inconsistencies also when the installer refers to Eclipse versions, once it
mentions Eclipse 3.1 but then it obviously needs 3.2 for some features.
It just feels a bit hit and miss to me. I know that the nuts and bolts of
Flex2 work fine but I am much more interested in the Remote Data Features.
Having some CF knowledge I'd like to leverage that - but then I see the
Release notes
http://www.adobe.com/support/docume...2/cf702_release
notes.html and I don't know if I should even bother. There's so much listed
here that will probably have me pull my hair out and I feel a bit
demotivated now.
Thoughts?
Stefan
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> hank williams
> Sent: 07 July 2006 14:58
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> Subject: Re: [FlashComm] FDS
>
> Are you using the latest versions of everything? There are
> big differences between the various betas of the flex2
> framework and the player. So if, for example the sample app
> is from final code but either your player or your framework
> is not, things wont work.
>
> Regards
> Hank
>
> On 7/7/06, Stefan Richter <stefan-fMeCE+ULXElEfu+5ix1nRw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> a page at
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| JesterXL 2006-07-07, 1:12 pm |
| ....hence the reason Hank's hired because he got it to work AND understands
it!
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Subject: RE: [FlashComm] FDS
Thanks Hank,
Latest install of everything.
I've also installed the CF 7.0.2 updater. However when I point Eclipse at
the ZIP archive which should supposedly install the CF support for Eclipse
it fails and complains that no software update is available. I copied the
files manually into Eclipse and this seems to work. However Eclipse now
complains about a missing 'feature.xml in zip' when I try a software update.
I can't put my finger on it but there seem to be some rough edges to this.
Inconsistencies also when the installer refers to Eclipse versions, once it
mentions Eclipse 3.1 but then it obviously needs 3.2 for some features.
It just feels a bit hit and miss to me. I know that the nuts and bolts of
Flex2 work fine but I am much more interested in the Remote Data Features.
Having some CF knowledge I'd like to leverage that - but then I see the
Release notes
http://www.adobe.com/support/docume...2/cf702_release
notes.html and I don't know if I should even bother. There's so much listed
here that will probably have me pull my hair out and I feel a bit
demotivated now.
Thoughts?
Stefan
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> [mailto:flashcomm-bounces-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of
> hank williams
> Sent: 07 July 2006 14:58
> To: FlashComm Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [FlashComm] FDS
>
> Are you using the latest versions of everything? There are
> big differences between the various betas of the flex2
> framework and the player. So if, for example the sample app
> is from final code but either your player or your framework
> is not, things wont work.
>
> Regards
> Hank
>
> On 7/7/06, Stefan Richter <stefan-fMeCE+ULXElEfu+5ix1nRw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> a page at
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| hank williams 2006-07-07, 1:12 pm |
| Well FDS worked like a charm for me but I was not using coldfusion. But that
brings up an interesting point. FDS and coldfusion are really separate
things I think. If you are using cold fusion and just want to do remoting, I
dont think you need FDS. If you want to do some of the cool new FDS
messaging/data sync stuff, coldfusion doesnt really play a part in that. So
I am a bit confused. I was responding to the issue of getting FDS up and
running and you made a comment about coldfusion. Is there some connection
between these two in your installation or in how you would expect to work?
Regards,
Hank
On 7/7/06, Stefan Richter <stefan-fMeCE+ULXElEfu+5ix1nRw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> Thanks Hank,
> Latest install of everything.
> I've also installed the CF 7.0.2 updater. However when I point Eclipse at
> the ZIP archive which should supposedly install the CF support for Eclipse
> it fails and complains that no software update is available. I copied the
> files manually into Eclipse and this seems to work. However Eclipse now
> complains about a missing 'feature.xml in zip' when I try a software
> update.
>
>
> I can't put my finger on it but there seem to be some rough edges to this.
> Inconsistencies also when the installer refers to Eclipse versions, once
> it
> mentions Eclipse 3.1 but then it obviously needs 3.2 for some features.
>
> It just feels a bit hit and miss to me. I know that the nuts and bolts of
> Flex2 work fine but I am much more interested in the Remote Data Features.
> Having some CF knowledge I'd like to leverage that - but then I see the
> Release notes
>
> http://www.adobe.com/support/docume...2/cf702_release
> notes.html and I don't know if I should even bother. There's so much
> listed
> here that will probably have me pull my hair out and I feel a bit
> demotivated now.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Stefan
>
>
>
>
>
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| Stefan Richter 2006-07-07, 1:12 pm |
| Yeah sorry Hank I understand.
They are indeed 2 separate things. Problem is that FDS wouldn't work for me
(or the samples at least) but the CF stuff sort of installed ok. Well the CF
part did but the FlexBuilder updates had some hickups.
Sorry about the confusion, I'm just moaning :-)
Stefan
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> hank williams
> Sent: 07 July 2006 15:54
> To: FlashComm Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [FlashComm] FDS
>
> Well FDS worked like a charm for me but I was not using
> coldfusion. But that brings up an interesting point. FDS and
> coldfusion are really separate things I think. If you are
> using cold fusion and just want to do remoting, I dont think
> you need FDS. If you want to do some of the cool new FDS
> messaging/data sync stuff, coldfusion doesnt really play a
> part in that. So I am a bit confused. I was responding to the
> issue of getting FDS up and running and you made a comment
> about coldfusion. Is there some connection between these two
> in your installation or in how you would expect to work?
>
> Regards,
> Hank
>
> On 7/7/06, Stefan Richter <stefan-fMeCE+ULXElEfu+5ix1nRw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> point Eclipse
> support for
> available. I
> work. However
> when I try
> edges to this.
> 3.2 for some
> nuts and bolts
> Data Features.
> http://www.adobe.com/support/docume...n/mx702/cf702_r
> There's so
> Behalf Of hank
> framework and the
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| hank williams 2006-07-07, 1:12 pm |
| Are you using jrun or another servlet container?
Hank
On 7/7/06, Stefan Richter <stefan-fMeCE+ULXElEfu+5ix1nRw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> Yeah sorry Hank I understand.
> They are indeed 2 separate things. Problem is that FDS wouldn't work for
> me
> (or the samples at least) but the CF stuff sort of installed ok. Well the
> CF
> part did but the FlexBuilder updates had some hickups.
>
> Sorry about the confusion, I'm just moaning :-)
>
> Stefan
>
>
>
>
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| Stefan Richter 2006-07-07, 1:12 pm |
| I'm using all the built in server stuff, no Tomcat or other insanities :-)
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> Subject: Re: [FlashComm] FDS
>
> Are you using jrun or another servlet container?
> Hank
>
> On 7/7/06, Stefan Richter <stefan-fMeCE+ULXElEfu+5ix1nRw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> wouldn't work
> some hickups.
> Behalf Of hank
> coldfusion.
> you want to
> you made a
> between these two
> obviously needs
> http://www.adobe.com/support/docume...ion/mx702/cf702
> hair out and I
> There are big
> final code but
> able to view
> would throw
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| Brian Lesser 2006-07-07, 1:12 pm |
| Hi Hank,
After following the link Stefan posted I finally ended up here:
http://download.macromedia.com/pub/..._with_flex2.pdf
So it seems the 7.0.2 Coldfusion release was all about bunding FDS into
Coldfusion and it looks like all the features of FDS are in there in one
way or another. Mind you, I'm not sure I have the mental energy to dig
into it now that I've actually found the doc...
Cheers,
-Brian
hank williams wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Well FDS worked like a charm for me but I was not using coldfusion.
> But that
> brings up an interesting point. FDS and coldfusion are really separate
> things I think. If you are using cold fusion and just want to do
> remoting, I
> dont think you need FDS. If you want to do some of the cool new FDS
> messaging/data sync stuff, coldfusion doesnt really play a part in
> that. So
> I am a bit confused. I was responding to the issue of getting FDS up and
> running and you made a comment about coldfusion. Is there some connection
> between these two in your installation or in how you would expect to
> work?
>
> Regards,
> Hank
>
> On 7/7/06, Stefan Richter <stefan-fMeCE+ULXElEfu+5ix1nRw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
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| Stefan Richter 2006-07-07, 7:11 pm |
| Yeah kind of - the data push stuff is only available with CF Enterprise. But
you do get the updated Remoting with the normal CF.
Not sure if anyone has tried the CF Remoting Wizards yet but wow - I managed
to get the Artist sample stuff working:
http://cfreport.org/index.cfm/2006/...n--Flex-Builder
I worked through part 1 (Dean went a bit fast at times).
After setting up the queries using the SQL Manager, the wizard creates MXML
and tons of CFC code for you. Scary in a way yet cool in another.
Cool because the app actually worked - scary because I know I couldn't have
written it from scratch.
Not sure if they use Cairngorm but the CF (and AS) code is definitely
following MVC and a best practices approach.
This reminds me of the time when I laid eye on the FCS commponent framework
for the first time... Iceberg ahead.
Stefan
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> Sent: 07 July 2006 18:44
> To: FlashComm Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [FlashComm] FDS
>
> Hi Hank,
> After following the link Stefan posted I finally ended up here:
>
> http://download.macromedia.com/pub/...n/en/flex/2/usi
> ng_cf_with_flex2.pdf
>
> So it seems the 7.0.2 Coldfusion release was all about
> bunding FDS into Coldfusion and it looks like all the
> features of FDS are in there in one way or another. Mind you,
> I'm not sure I have the mental energy to dig into it now that
> I've actually found the doc...
> Cheers,
> -Brian
>
> hank williams wrote:
>
> really separate
> really play
> the issue
> coldfusion.
> installation or in
> software update is
> this seems to
> 'feature.xml in
> rough edges to
> versions,
> 3.2 for some
> then I see
> http://www.adobe.com/support/docume...on/mx702/cf702_
> There's so much
> and I feel a
>
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| hank williams 2006-07-07, 7:11 pm |
| Hmmm... If thats the case then it seems to me lots of people should be using
cf instead of flex because I would be that unless you are doing Java stuff,
cf is much easier. Of course I have never used it, but from what people say
it sounds like it is easier than java.
Regards,
Hank.
On 7/7/06, Brian Lesser <blesser-6s6ziW1YCwCw5LPnMra/2Q@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Hank,
> After following the link Stefan posted I finally ended up here:
>
>
> http://download.macromedia.com/pub/..._with_flex2.pdf
>
> So it seems the 7.0.2 Coldfusion release was all about bunding FDS into
> Coldfusion and it looks like all the features of FDS are in there in one
> way or another. Mind you, I'm not sure I have the mental energy to dig
> into it now that I've actually found the doc...
> Cheers,
> -Brian
>
> hank williams wrote:
>
> connection
> once
> http://www.adobe.com/support/docume...2/cf702_release
>
> --
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| Stefan Richter 2006-07-07, 7:11 pm |
| It is - proven by the fact that I can do it. :-)
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> [mailto:flashcomm-bounces-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of
> hank williams
> Sent: 07 July 2006 20:17
> To: FlashComm Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [FlashComm] FDS
>
> Hmmm... If thats the case then it seems to me lots of people
> should be using cf instead of flex because I would be that
> unless you are doing Java stuff, cf is much easier. Of course
> I have never used it, but from what people say it sounds like
> it is easier than java.
>
> Regards,
> Hank.
>
> On 7/7/06, Brian Lesser <blesser-6s6ziW1YCwCw5LPnMra/2Q@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> http://download.macromedia.com/pub/...x/2/using_cf_wi
> are in there
> mental energy
> coldfusion.
> just want
> do some of
> doesnt really
> responding to the
> would expect to
> install the CF
> software update
> rough edges
> Eclipse versions,
> some features.
> then I see
> http://www.adobe.com/support/docume...n/mx702/cf702_r
> out and I
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