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Asai

2006-08-21, 1:12 pm



Hi Guys,

I hope you guys could shed some light on this, or at least confirm my
observations here. I posted a week or so ago regarding the quality
of FP8 vs FP9 in the video department, what I was noticing is that
FP8 seems to do a better job of rendering FLV than FP9. FP9 seems to
be rendering my FLVs in a very blocky and pixelated fashion. Here's
two examples: www.musiciansnet.org/eightrack and
www.musiciansnet.org/agalu . If you watch in FP8 the video quality
looks good, but in FP9 it looks like sh**. I'm using FP8 in my
primary browser (Firefox) and FP9 in my secondary (Internet
Explorer/Maxthon). I've encoded these videos using the Flix On2
Encoder with 2 pass compression and deinterlacing with the "high"
quality version at 300k and low at 150k.

If you've got some time, please check these out for me and post your
feedback. I'd much appreciate it.

---asai

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2006-08-21, 1:12 pm

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Owen van Dijk

2006-08-22, 7:12 am

I had a look and from what i see they look pretty much the same (
FireFox 1.5 + FP 8.0.22 on WIN and FireFox 1.5 + FP 9.0.16 on WIN ).
Could you post some screenshots to show the difference? Maybe it's a
smoothing issue?

On 9/21/06, Asai <Asai-GXSq7f5MMRaMoCwsdGbDa77nWZmokUtd@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I hope you guys could shed some light on this, or at least confirm my
> observations here. I posted a week or so ago regarding the quality
> of FP8 vs FP9 in the video department, what I was noticing is that
> FP8 seems to do a better job of rendering FLV than FP9. FP9 seems to
> be rendering my FLVs in a very blocky and pixelated fashion. Here's
> two examples: www.musiciansnet.org/eightrack and
> www.musiciansnet.org/agalu . If you watch in FP8 the video quality
> looks good, but in FP9 it looks like sh**. I'm using FP8 in my
> primary browser (Firefox) and FP9 in my secondary (Internet
> Explorer/Maxthon). I've encoded these videos using the Flix On2
> Encoder with 2 pass compression and deinterlacing with the "high"
> quality version at 300k and low at 150k.
>
> If you've got some time, please check these out for me and post your
> feedback. I'd much appreciate it.
>
> ---asai
>
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Asai

2006-08-22, 7:12 pm

Thanks for taking a look Owen. Here's a screenshot using FP8:

www.musiciansnet.org/agalu/agalu.jpg

And here's one, at about the same playback time using FP9. Note that
the pixelization here is
consistent with the rest of the flv played back in FP9, while the
smooth look of the above picture
is consistent with the rest of the flv played back in FP8.

www.musiciansnet.org/agalu/agalu.ie.jpg



At 01:02 AM 8/22/2006, you wrote:
>I had a look and from what i see they look pretty much the same (
>FireFox 1.5 + FP 8.0.22 on WIN and FireFox 1.5 + FP 9.0.16 on WIN ).
>Could you post some screenshots to show the difference? Maybe it's a
>smoothing issue?
>
>On 9/21/06, Asai <Asai-GXSq7f5MMRaMoCwsdGbDa77nWZmokUtd@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>
>--
>Owen van Dijk
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---asai

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Steve Wolkoff

2006-08-22, 7:12 pm

Hi Asai -

I'm running FP8 and 9 on my system in the opposite config of you (8 on
IE and 9 on FF) and can see a bit of what you are talking about - there
seems to be some more roughness and artifacting on the video in FP9.=20

Can you send me (offlist) or post these FLVs so that I can have our dev
team take a look? If you had a "debug" player that could easily be
seeked to a specific timecode to do a frame by frame comparison, it
would help speed us along. =20

Thanks,

-steve.

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[mailto:flashcomm-bounces-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Asai
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 2:10 PM
To: FlashComm Mailing List
Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Flash Player 8 Video vs. FP9 Video

Thanks for taking a look Owen. Here's a screenshot using FP8:

www.musiciansnet.org/agalu/agalu.jpg

And here's one, at about the same playback time using FP9. Note that=20
the pixelization here is
consistent with the rest of the flv played back in FP9, while the=20
smooth look of the above picture
is consistent with the rest of the flv played back in FP8.

www.musiciansnet.org/agalu/agalu.ie.jpg



At 01:02 AM 8/22/2006, you wrote:
>I had a look and from what i see they look pretty much the same (
>FireFox 1.5 + FP 8.0.22 on WIN and FireFox 1.5 + FP 9.0.16 on WIN ).
>Could you post some screenshots to show the difference? Maybe it's a
>smoothing issue?
>
>On 9/21/06, Asai <Asai-GXSq7f5MMRaMoCwsdGbDa77nWZmokUtd@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>
>--
>Owen van Dijk
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---asai =20

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Asai

2006-08-22, 7:12 pm

Thanks Steve,

I e-mailed you some stuff off list. Hope it helps.

At 12:12 PM 8/22/2006, you wrote:
>Hi Asai -
>
>I'm running FP8 and 9 on my system in the opposite config of you (8 on
>IE and 9 on FF) and can see a bit of what you are talking about - there
>seems to be some more roughness and artifacting on the video in FP9.
>
>Can you send me (offlist) or post these FLVs so that I can have our dev
>team take a look? If you had a "debug" player that could easily be
>seeked to a specific timecode to do a frame by frame comparison, it
>would help speed us along.
>
>Thanks,
>
>-steve.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: flashcomm-bounces-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org
>[mailto:flashcomm-bounces-1Ss2GqJETD3yZ38Mhd3e/9ZfFG6BLHNm@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Asai
>Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 2:10 PM
>To: FlashComm Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [FlashComm] Flash Player 8 Video vs. FP9 Video
>
>Thanks for taking a look Owen. Here's a screenshot using FP8:
>
>www.musiciansnet.org/agalu/agalu.jpg
>
>And here's one, at about the same playback time using FP9. Note that
>the pixelization here is
>consistent with the rest of the flv played back in FP9, while the
>smooth look of the above picture
>is consistent with the rest of the flv played back in FP8.
>
>www.musiciansnet.org/agalu/agalu.ie.jpg
>
>
>
>At 01:02 AM 8/22/2006, you wrote:
>
>---asai
>
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---asai

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