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Ruben Montes

2005-11-30, 7:45 am

Hello,



I have configured an MGCP QSIG (C2851 with 2xE1 and CCM4.1(3)) with an Ericsson MD110. All the calls to the PBX numbers from IP phones work fine.

The problem apperas when I try to call an IP phone from the PBX: I can only reach those phones which aren't assigned to any partition or CSS. When I change the partition, the result from a debug q931 is 'Unassigned/unallocated number' and I cannot reach the phone.

It is my first QSIG with MGCP and partitions so I assume it's a configuration issue related with partitions, but I don't know where to search...

I have followed the cisco doc " cisco Callmanager4.1-PBX Interoperability Ericsson MD-110" with no luck...

Thanks in advance;

Ruben


Erick Bergquist

2005-11-30, 7:45 am

How about the CSS under the Incoming calls section of
the gateway config page? Did you reset the gateway in
CCM after making changes? =


--- Ruben Montes <Ruben.Montes@eu.didata.com> wrote:

> Hello Kevin,
> =


> I have tried that, adding the CSS in the mgcp
> endpoint configuration page with no luck... It's a
> little bit strange what is happening...
> =


> -----Mensaje original----- =


> De: Kevin Thorngren [mailto:kthorngr@cisco.com] =


> Enviado el: mi=EF=BF=BD 30/11/2005 13:03 =


> Para: Ruben Montes =


> CC: cisco-voip@puck-nether.net =


> Asunto: Re: [cisco-voip] Q.SIG: problem with
> partitions
> =


> =


> =


> The Calling Search Space assigned to the MGCP GW
> will determine what
> devices (Partitions) it can call. Sounds like you
> need to assign a CSS
> to the GW that contains the partition(s) that the
> phones are in.
> =


> Kevin
> On Nov 30, 2005, at 6:03 AM, Ruben Montes wrote:
> =


> > Hello,
> >
> > =


> >
> > I have configured an MGCP QSIG (C2851 with 2xE1
> and CCM4.1(3)) with an
> > Ericsson MD110. All the calls to the PBX numbers
> from IP phones work
> > fine.
> >
> > The problem apperas when I try to call an IP
> phone from the PBX: I can
> > only reach those phones which aren't assigned to
> any partition or CSS.
> > When I change the partition, the result from a
> debug q931 is
> > 'Unassigned/unallocated number' and I cannot
> reach the phone.
> >
> > It is my first QSIG with MGCP and partitions so I
> assume it's a
> > configuration issue related with partitions, but
> I don't know where to
> > search...
> >
> > I have followed the cisco doc " Cisco
> Callmanager4.1-PBX
> > Interoperability Ericsson MD-110" with no luck...
> >
> > Thanks in advance;
> >
> >
> Ruben___________________________________
____________
> > cisco-voip mailing list
> > cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> >
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
> =


> =


> =


> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
> =





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Kevin Thorngren

2005-11-30, 5:45 pm

The Calling Search Space assigned to the MGCP GW will determine what =

devices (Partitions) it can call. Sounds like you need to assign a CSS =

to the GW that contains the partition(s) that the phones are in.

Kevin
On Nov 30, 2005, at 6:03 AM, Ruben Montes wrote:

> Hello,
>
> =A0
>
> I have configured an MGCP QSIG (C2851 with 2xE1 and CCM4.1(3))=A0with an =


> Ericsson MD110. All the calls to the PBX numbers from IP phones=A0work =


> fine.
>
> The problem apperas when I try to call an IP phone from the PBX: I can =


> only reach those phones which aren't assigned to any partition or CSS. =


> When I change the partition, the result from a debug q931 is =


> 'Unassigned/unallocated number' and I cannot reach the phone.
>
> It is my first QSIG with MGCP and partitions=A0so I assume it's a =


> configuration issue related with partitions, but I don't know where to =


> search...
>
> I have followed the cisco doc " cisco Callmanager4.1-PBX =


> Interoperability Ericsson MD-110" with no luck...
>
> Thanks in advance;
>
> Ruben___________________________________
____________
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip

Ruben Montes

2005-11-30, 5:45 pm

Hello Kevin,

I have tried that, adding the CSS in the mgcp endpoint configuration page with no luck... It's a little bit strange what is happening...

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Kevin Thorngren [mailto:kthorngr@cisco.com]
Enviado el: mié 30/11/2005 13:03
Para: Ruben Montes
CC: cisco-voip@puck-nether.net
Asunto: Re: [cisco-voip] Q.SIG: problem with partitions



The Calling Search Space assigned to the MGCP GW will determine what
devices (Partitions) it can call. Sounds like you need to assign a CSS
to the GW that contains the partition(s) that the phones are in.

Kevin
On Nov 30, 2005, at 6:03 AM, Ruben Montes wrote:

> Hello,
>
>
>
> I have configured an MGCP QSIG (C2851 with 2xE1 and CCM4.1(3)) with an
> Ericsson MD110. All the calls to the PBX numbers from IP phones work
> fine.
>
> The problem apperas when I try to call an IP phone from the PBX: I can
> only reach those phones which aren't assigned to any partition or CSS.
> When I change the partition, the result from a debug q931 is
> 'Unassigned/unallocated number' and I cannot reach the phone.
>
> It is my first QSIG with MGCP and partitions so I assume it's a
> configuration issue related with partitions, but I don't know where to
> search...
>
> I have followed the cisco doc " cisco Callmanager4.1-PBX
> Interoperability Ericsson MD-110" with no luck...
>
> Thanks in advance;
>
> Ruben___________________________________
____________
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip





Ruben Montes

2005-11-30, 5:45 pm

Hello,

is working now with the same configuration... The only diference is that my publisher crashed one hour ago and when it was restarted, this worked...
Now I have to troubleshoot what has happened: no eventviewer logs, no network connectivity but port up... Something very strange!!! We are putting this cluster in production next week and I doesn't feel vey comfortable with that...

Regards,

ruben

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Erick Bergquist [mailto:erickbe@yahoo.com]
Enviado el: mié 30/11/2005 13:30
Para: Ruben Montes; Kevin Thorngren
CC: cisco-voip@puck-nether.net
Asunto: RE: [cisco-voip] Q.SIG: problem with partitions



How about the CSS under the Incoming calls section of
the gateway config page? Did you reset the gateway in
CCM after making changes?

--- Ruben Montes <Ruben.Montes@eu.didata.com> wrote:

> Hello Kevin,
>
> I have tried that, adding the CSS in the mgcp
> endpoint configuration page with no luck... It's a
> little bit strange what is happening...
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Kevin Thorngren [mailto:kthorngr@cisco.com]
> Enviado el: mi� 30/11/2005 13:03
> Para: Ruben Montes
> CC: cisco-voip@puck-nether.net
> Asunto: Re: [cisco-voip] Q.SIG: problem with
> partitions
>
>
>
> The Calling Search Space assigned to the MGCP GW
> will determine what
> devices (Partitions) it can call. Sounds like you
> need to assign a CSS
> to the GW that contains the partition(s) that the
> phones are in.
>
> Kevin
> On Nov 30, 2005, at 6:03 AM, Ruben Montes wrote:
>
> and CCM4.1(3)) with an
> from IP phones work
> phone from the PBX: I can
> any partition or CSS.
> debug q931 is
> reach the phone.
> assume it's a
> I don't know where to
> Callmanager4.1-PBX
> Ruben___________________________________
____________
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>
>
>
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>






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Ryan Ratliff

2005-11-30, 5:45 pm

The reason your calls work is because your gateway unregistered. =

For a CSS change to take affect you have to reset the gateway in =

question. If you are using the 'ccm-manager config' feature then a =

reset via the CCMAdmin will work. If you aren't using this feature =

on the gateway you have to do a 'no mgcp' and then 'mgcp' to =

reregister the gw.

As for the crash if your server is an HP make sure you are running OS =

2000.4.2. I've had two cases this week where HP recommended bios =

upgrades due to "unpredictable issues" including system hangs, =

reboots, etc. Supposedly the latest microcode in the 9/15/2004 bios =

addresses these.

-Ryan

On Nov 30, 2005, at 9:16 AM, Ruben Montes wrote:

Hello,

is working now with the same configuration... The only diference is =

that my publisher crashed one hour ago and when it was restarted, =

this worked...
Now I have to troubleshoot what has happened: no eventviewer logs, no =

network connectivity but port up... Something very strange!!! We are =

putting this cluster in production next week and I doesn't feel vey =

comfortable with that...

Regards,

ruben
-----Mensaje original-----
De: Erick Bergquist [mailto:erickbe@yahoo.com]
Enviado el: mi=E9 30/11/2005 13:30
Para: Ruben Montes; Kevin Thorngren
CC: cisco-voip@puck-nether.net
Asunto: RE: [cisco-voip] Q.SIG: problem with partitions

How about the CSS under the Incoming calls section of
the gateway config page? Did you reset the gateway in
CCM after making changes?

--- Ruben Montes <Ruben.Montes@eu.didata.com> wrote:

> Hello Kevin,
>
> I have tried that, adding the CSS in the mgcp
> endpoint configuration page with no luck... It's a
> little bit strange what is happening...
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Kevin Thorngren [mailto:kthorngr@cisco.com]
> Enviado el: mi=EF=BF=BD 30/11/2005 13:03
> Para: Ruben Montes
> CC: cisco-voip@puck-nether.net
> Asunto: Re: [cisco-voip] Q.SIG: problem with
> partitions
>
>
>
> The Calling Search Space assigned to the MGCP GW
> will determine what
> devices (Partitions) it can call. Sounds like you
> need to assign a CSS
> to the GW that contains the partition(s) that the
> phones are in.
>
> Kevin
> On Nov 30, 2005, at 6:03 AM, Ruben Montes wrote:
>
> and CCM4.1(3)) with an
> from IP phones work
> phone from the PBX: I can
> any partition or CSS.
> debug q931 is
> reach the phone.
> assume it's a
> I don't know where to
> Callmanager4.1-PBX
> Ruben___________________________________
____________
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>
>
>
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>






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Ryan Ratliff

2005-11-30, 5:45 pm

Your best bet for hardware specifics is either the product page on =

www.cisco.com or looking at HP's site. You can find HP part numbers =

for MCS servers at www.cisco.com/go/swonly.

The BIOS updates I was referring to were for older MCS 7835 servers. =

Your server is pretty new so should already include the latest BIOS =

updates. You'll want to make sure you have updated the drivers since =

the HP 7825-H1 servers had a known SATA issue that caused high cpu. =

You can download the new driver from http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/ =

tablebuild.pl/cmva-3des. The filename is HP-SATADriver-6.0.82.exe. =

Be sure to include the readme as well. This driver may be included =

in 2000.4.2 I don't know for sure.

-Ryan

On Nov 30, 2005, at 10:43 AM, Ruben Montes wrote:

Thank you very much Ryan,

I didn't know that about 'ccm-manager config': I've put this command =

in all my mgcp gateways ;)

My server is an MCS7825 HP with two RAID disks. I have the =

OS2000.4.2. I've seen it has appeared in the cisco web page the SR1 =

for the OS 200.4.2: has anybody already installed it?
Ryan, what are the bios upgrades that are you talking about? Are they =

downloadable from cisco? I have also problems with one of the RAID =

disks, I think I have to rebuild it, but I'm not sure.
Where can I find documentation about the hardware? In HP web page, in =

Cisco's?

Thanks,

Ruben
-----Mensaje original-----
De: Ryan Ratliff [mailto:rratliff@cisco.com]
Enviado el: mi=E9 30/11/2005 16:02
Para: Ruben Montes
CC: erickbe@yahoo.com; Kevin Thorngren; cisco-voip@puck-nether.net
Asunto: Re: [cisco-voip] Q.SIG: problem with partitions

The reason your calls work is because your gateway unregistered.
For a CSS change to take affect you have to reset the gateway in
question. If you are using the 'ccm-manager config' feature then a
reset via the CCMAdmin will work. If you aren't using this feature
on the gateway you have to do a 'no mgcp' and then 'mgcp' to
reregister the gw.

As for the crash if your server is an HP make sure you are running OS
2000.4.2. I've had two cases this week where HP recommended bios
upgrades due to "unpredictable issues" including system hangs,
reboots, etc. Supposedly the latest microcode in the 9/15/2004 bios
addresses these.

-Ryan

On Nov 30, 2005, at 9:16 AM, Ruben Montes wrote:

Hello,

is working now with the same configuration... The only diference is
that my publisher crashed one hour ago and when it was restarted,
this worked...
Now I have to troubleshoot what has happened: no eventviewer logs, no
network connectivity but port up... Something very strange!!! We are
putting this cluster in production next week and I doesn't feel vey
comfortable with that...

Regards,

ruben
-----Mensaje original-----
De: Erick Bergquist [mailto:erickbe@yahoo.com]
Enviado el: mi=E9 30/11/2005 13:30
Para: Ruben Montes; Kevin Thorngren
CC: cisco-voip@puck-nether.net
Asunto: RE: [cisco-voip] Q.SIG: problem with partitions

How about the CSS under the Incoming calls section of
the gateway config page? Did you reset the gateway in
CCM after making changes?

--- Ruben Montes <Ruben.Montes@eu.didata.com> wrote:

> Hello Kevin,
>
> I have tried that, adding the CSS in the mgcp
> endpoint configuration page with no luck... It's a
> little bit strange what is happening...
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Kevin Thorngren [mailto:kthorngr@cisco.com]
> Enviado el: mi=EF=BF=BD 30/11/2005 13:03
> Para: Ruben Montes
> CC: cisco-voip@puck-nether.net
> Asunto: Re: [cisco-voip] Q.SIG: problem with
> partitions
>
>
>
> The Calling Search Space assigned to the MGCP GW
> will determine what
> devices (Partitions) it can call. Sounds like you
> need to assign a CSS
> to the GW that contains the partition(s) that the
> phones are in.
>
> Kevin
> On Nov 30, 2005, at 6:03 AM, Ruben Montes wrote:
>
> and CCM4.1(3)) with an
> from IP phones work
> phone from the PBX: I can
> any partition or CSS.
> debug q931 is
> reach the phone.
> assume it's a
> I don't know where to
> Callmanager4.1-PBX
> Ruben___________________________________
____________
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>
>
>
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>






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Brian Henry

2005-11-30, 5:45 pm

You can use the HP Utility to look at the health of your RAID without rebooting your box and going in thru the card itself. The software will let you know if the drive is being rebuilt or not, but it will not tell you that the drive is bad there are other diagnostic tools from HP that should help you in that sense. BIOS upgrades usually come from HP unless cisco bundles the updates in its SR's, but of course check the sr1 readme to see what the release actually fixes and of course its caveats.



Part of the engineering team here has installed the 4.2sr1 on a 7835 without any problems so far.



Brian



________________________________

From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ruben Montes
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 10:44 AM
To: Ryan Ratliff
Cc: cisco-voip@puck-nether.net
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Q.SIG: problem with partitions



Thank you very much Ryan,



I didn't know that about 'ccm-manager config': I've put this command in all my mgcp gateways ;)



My server is an MCS7825 HP with two RAID disks. I have the OS2000.4.2. I've seen it has appeared in the cisco web page the SR1 for the OS 200.4.2: has anybody already installed it?

Ryan, what are the bios upgrades that are you talking about? Are they downloadable from cisco? I have also problems with one of the RAID disks, I think I have to rebuild it, but I'm not sure.

Where can I find documentation about the hardware? In HP web page, in Cisco's?



Thanks,



Ruben

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Ryan Ratliff [mailto:rratliff@cisco.com]
Enviado el: mié 30/11/2005 16:02
Para: Ruben Montes
CC: erickbe@yahoo.com; Kevin Thorngren; cisco-voip@puck-nether.net
Asunto: Re: [cisco-voip] Q.SIG: problem with partitions

The reason your calls work is because your gateway unregistered.
For a CSS change to take affect you have to reset the gateway in
question. If you are using the 'ccm-manager config' feature then a
reset via the CCMAdmin will work. If you aren't using this feature
on the gateway you have to do a 'no mgcp' and then 'mgcp' to
reregister the gw.

As for the crash if your server is an HP make sure you are running OS
2000.4.2. I've had two cases this week where HP recommended bios
upgrades due to "unpredictable issues" including system hangs,
reboots, etc. Supposedly the latest microcode in the 9/15/2004 bios
addresses these.

-Ryan

On Nov 30, 2005, at 9:16 AM, Ruben Montes wrote:

Hello,

is working now with the same configuration... The only diference is
that my publisher crashed one hour ago and when it was restarted,
this worked...
Now I have to troubleshoot what has happened: no eventviewer logs, no
network connectivity but port up... Something very strange!!! We are
putting this cluster in production next week and I doesn't feel vey
comfortable with that...

Regards,

ruben
-----Mensaje original-----
De: Erick Bergquist [mailto:erickbe@yahoo.com]
Enviado el: mié 30/11/2005 13:30
Para: Ruben Montes; Kevin Thorngren
CC: cisco-voip@puck-nether.net
Asunto: RE: [cisco-voip] Q.SIG: problem with partitions

How about the CSS under the Incoming calls section of
the gateway config page? Did you reset the gateway in
CCM after making changes?

--- Ruben Montes <Ruben.Montes@eu.didata.com> wrote:

> Hello Kevin,
>
> I have tried that, adding the CSS in the mgcp
> endpoint configuration page with no luck... It's a
> little bit strange what is happening...
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Kevin Thorngren [mailto:kthorngr@cisco.com]
> Enviado el: mi� 30/11/2005 13:03
> Para: Ruben Montes
> CC: cisco-voip@puck-nether.net
> Asunto: Re: [cisco-voip] Q.SIG: problem with
> partitions
>
>
>
> The Calling Search Space assigned to the MGCP GW
> will determine what
> devices (Partitions) it can call. Sounds like you
> need to assign a CSS
> to the GW that contains the partition(s) that the
> phones are in.
>
> Kevin
> On Nov 30, 2005, at 6:03 AM, Ruben Montes wrote:
>
> and CCM4.1(3)) with an
> from IP phones work
> phone from the PBX: I can
> any partition or CSS.
> debug q931 is
> reach the phone.
> assume it's a
> I don't know where to
> Callmanager4.1-PBX
> Ruben___________________________________
____________
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>
>
>
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>






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Ruben Montes

2005-11-30, 5:45 pm

Thank you very much Ryan,

I didn't know that about 'ccm-manager config': I've put this command in all my mgcp gateways ;)

My server is an MCS7825 HP with two RAID disks. I have the OS2000.4.2. I've seen it has appeared in the cisco web page the SR1 for the OS 200.4.2: has anybody already installed it?
Ryan, what are the bios upgrades that are you talking about? Are they downloadable from cisco? I have also problems with one of the RAID disks, I think I have to rebuild it, but I'm not sure.
Where can I find documentation about the hardware? In HP web page, in Cisco's?

Thanks,

Ruben

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Ryan Ratliff [mailto:rratliff@cisco.com]
Enviado el: mié 30/11/2005 16:02
Para: Ruben Montes
CC: erickbe@yahoo.com; Kevin Thorngren; cisco-voip@puck-nether.net
Asunto: Re: [cisco-voip] Q.SIG: problem with partitions



The reason your calls work is because your gateway unregistered.
For a CSS change to take affect you have to reset the gateway in
question. If you are using the 'ccm-manager config' feature then a
reset via the CCMAdmin will work. If you aren't using this feature
on the gateway you have to do a 'no mgcp' and then 'mgcp' to
reregister the gw.

As for the crash if your server is an HP make sure you are running OS
2000.4.2. I've had two cases this week where HP recommended bios
upgrades due to "unpredictable issues" including system hangs,
reboots, etc. Supposedly the latest microcode in the 9/15/2004 bios
addresses these.

-Ryan

On Nov 30, 2005, at 9:16 AM, Ruben Montes wrote:

Hello,

is working now with the same configuration... The only diference is
that my publisher crashed one hour ago and when it was restarted,
this worked...
Now I have to troubleshoot what has happened: no eventviewer logs, no
network connectivity but port up... Something very strange!!! We are
putting this cluster in production next week and I doesn't feel vey
comfortable with that...

Regards,

ruben
-----Mensaje original-----
De: Erick Bergquist [mailto:erickbe@yahoo.com]
Enviado el: mié 30/11/2005 13:30
Para: Ruben Montes; Kevin Thorngren
CC: cisco-voip@puck-nether.net
Asunto: RE: [cisco-voip] Q.SIG: problem with partitions

How about the CSS under the Incoming calls section of
the gateway config page? Did you reset the gateway in
CCM after making changes?

--- Ruben Montes <Ruben.Montes@eu.didata.com> wrote:

> Hello Kevin,
>
> I have tried that, adding the CSS in the mgcp
> endpoint configuration page with no luck... It's a
> little bit strange what is happening...
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Kevin Thorngren [mailto:kthorngr@cisco.com]
> Enviado el: mi� 30/11/2005 13:03
> Para: Ruben Montes
> CC: cisco-voip@puck-nether.net
> Asunto: Re: [cisco-voip] Q.SIG: problem with
> partitions
>
>
>
> The Calling Search Space assigned to the MGCP GW
> will determine what
> devices (Partitions) it can call. Sounds like you
> need to assign a CSS
> to the GW that contains the partition(s) that the
> phones are in.
>
> Kevin
> On Nov 30, 2005, at 6:03 AM, Ruben Montes wrote:
>
> and CCM4.1(3)) with an
> from IP phones work
> phone from the PBX: I can
> any partition or CSS.
> debug q931 is
> reach the phone.
> assume it's a
> I don't know where to
> Callmanager4.1-PBX
> Ruben___________________________________
____________
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>
>
>
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>






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