Voice over IP Cisco - Reverse translation pattern

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Reverse translation pattern

Voll, Scott

2005-07-22, 5:45 pm

I'm bringing on a site that will have a main number then extensions.

When dialing out I want the main number to show for all phones.

I'm doing toll bypass so I have about 150 prefix dial patterns and all
of them are using the "use Calling Party's External Phone Number Mask"
because the phones at other sites have DID's.

I really don't want to duplicate all the Route patterns.

Is there a way to say if extension = 12xx then make the phone mask
5035551212?

I would like the phone to have the extension so the end user knows there
extension and I need space on the line label for names.

Thanks

Scott

Voll, Scott

2005-07-22, 5:45 pm

Can't I do this via A Translation Pattern?

Scott

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[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Voll, Scott
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:08 AM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] Reverse translation pattern

I'm bringing on a site that will have a main number then extensions.

When dialing out I want the main number to show for all phones.

I'm doing toll bypass so I have about 150 prefix dial patterns and all
of them are using the "use Calling Party's External Phone Number Mask"
because the phones at other sites have DID's.

I really don't want to duplicate all the Route patterns.

Is there a way to say if extension = 12xx then make the phone mask
5035551212?

I would like the phone to have the extension so the end user knows there
extension and I need space on the line label for names.

Thanks

Scott

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Ryan Ratliff

2005-07-22, 5:45 pm

You can modify the calling party number on a translation pattern yes
but I don't think it's the best way to achieve this.

If you already have all your route patterns to set to use the external
phone number mask then why not just configure it for all of the 12XX
phones? BAT may even be able to do this for you.

-Ryan
On Jul 22, 2005, at 1:17 PM, Voll, Scott wrote:

Can't I do this via A Translation Pattern?

Scott

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[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Voll, Scott
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:08 AM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] Reverse translation pattern

I'm bringing on a site that will have a main number then extensions.

When dialing out I want the main number to show for all phones.

I'm doing toll bypass so I have about 150 prefix dial patterns and all
of them are using the "use Calling Party's External Phone Number Mask"
because the phones at other sites have DID's.

I really don't want to duplicate all the Route patterns.

Is there a way to say if extension = 12xx then make the phone mask
5035551212?

I would like the phone to have the extension so the end user knows there
extension and I need space on the line label for names.

Thanks

Scott

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Marc Hering

2005-07-22, 5:45 pm

I usually just set the externam phone number mask at the DN
level...overrides everythign else

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Voll, Scott
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 1:17 PM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Reverse translation pattern

Can't I do this via A Translation Pattern?

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Voll, Scott
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:08 AM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] Reverse translation pattern

I'm bringing on a site that will have a main number then extensions.

When dialing out I want the main number to show for all phones.

I'm doing toll bypass so I have about 150 prefix dial patterns and all
of them are using the "use Calling Party's External Phone Number Mask"
because the phones at other sites have DID's.

I really don't want to duplicate all the Route patterns.

Is there a way to say if extension = 12xx then make the phone mask
5035551212?

I would like the phone to have the extension so the end user knows there
extension and I need space on the line label for names.

Thanks

Scott

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Lelio Fulgenzi

2005-07-22, 5:45 pm

um, i think the DN is the least significant bit in this case. i think the precedence is:

DN -> Route Pattern -> Route List -> Route Group -> Gateway

with the gateway overwriting everything before it.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Network Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"I had a coffee and Coke at lunch today...and now, I've got more jitter than an
IP phone on a long haul 10base2 connection" LFJ
----- Original Message -----
From: Marc Hering
To: Voll, Scott ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 1:22 PM
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Reverse translation pattern

I usually just set the externam phone number mask at the DN
level...overrides everythign else

Lelio Fulgenzi

2005-07-22, 5:45 pm

If you're not willing to give up the extension on the top line of the phone, you will likely have to resort to creating new route patterns.

Can you not put the extension on the first line label? Obviously would take some work.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Network Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"I had a coffee and Coke at lunch today...and now, I've got more jitter than an
IP phone on a long haul 10base2 connection" LFJ
----- Original Message -----
From: Voll, Scott
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 1:08 PM
Subject: [cisco-voip] Reverse translation pattern

I'm bringing on a site that will have a main number then extensions.

When dialing out I want the main number to show for all phones.

I'm doing toll bypass so I have about 150 prefix dial patterns and all
of them are using the "use Calling Party's External Phone Number Mask"
because the phones at other sites have DID's.

I really don't want to duplicate all the Route patterns.

Is there a way to say if extension = 12xx then make the phone mask
5035551212?

I would like the phone to have the extension so the end user knows there
extension and I need space on the line label for names.

Thanks

Scott

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Voll, Scott

2005-07-22, 5:45 pm

I really wanted the extension to show up on the top of the phone rather
then the phone mask. Any way to achieve this?

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Ratliff [mailto:rratliff@cisco.com]
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:23 AM
To: Voll, Scott
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Reverse translation pattern

You can modify the calling party number on a translation pattern yes
but I don't think it's the best way to achieve this.

If you already have all your route patterns to set to use the external
phone number mask then why not just configure it for all of the 12XX
phones? BAT may even be able to do this for you.

-Ryan
On Jul 22, 2005, at 1:17 PM, Voll, Scott wrote:

Can't I do this via A Translation Pattern?

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Voll, Scott
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:08 AM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] Reverse translation pattern

I'm bringing on a site that will have a main number then extensions.

When dialing out I want the main number to show for all phones.

I'm doing toll bypass so I have about 150 prefix dial patterns and all
of them are using the "use Calling Party's External Phone Number Mask"
because the phones at other sites have DID's.

I really don't want to duplicate all the Route patterns.

Is there a way to say if extension = 12xx then make the phone mask
5035551212?

I would like the phone to have the extension so the end user knows there
extension and I need space on the line label for names.

Thanks

Scott

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Voll, Scott

2005-07-22, 5:45 pm

They are 7912 so four digits plus a space only gives me about 7
characters for the person's name. But that sounds like what I will have
to do. I really am not in the mood to copy 150+ route patterns.

Scott

________________________________

From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:29 AM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Reverse translation pattern

If you're not willing to give up the extension on the top line of the
phone, you will likely have to resort to creating new route patterns.

Can you not put the extension on the first line label? Obviously would
take some work.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Network Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"I had a coffee and Coke at lunch today...and now, I've got more jitter
than an
IP phone on a long haul 10base2 connection"
LFJ

----- Original Message -----

From: Voll, Scott <mailto:Scott.Voll@wesd.org>

To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net

Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 1:08 PM

Subject: [cisco-voip] Reverse translation pattern

I'm bringing on a site that will have a main number then
extensions.

When dialing out I want the main number to show for all phones.

I'm doing toll bypass so I have about 150 prefix dial patterns
and all
of them are using the "use Calling Party's External Phone Number
Mask"
because the phones at other sites have DID's.

I really don't want to duplicate all the Route patterns.

Is there a way to say if extension = 12xx then make the phone
mask
5035551212?

I would like the phone to have the extension so the end user
knows there
extension and I need space on the line label for names.

Thanks

Scott

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Ryan Ratliff

2005-07-22, 5:45 pm

Assuming no calling party modifications are being done at the route =

list, gateway, etc if your route pattern has the check box enabled for =

"use calling party's external phone number mask" the calling party =

should be set to whatever the line has as its external phone mask. =

What is keeping you from setting the mask for the phones at this site =

to the main number?

-Ryan
On Jul 22, 2005, at 1:26 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:

um, i think the DN is the least significant bit in this case. i think =

the precedence is:
=A0
DN -> Route Pattern -> Route List -> Route Group -> Gateway
=A0
with the gateway overwriting everything before it.
=A0
------------------------------------------------------------------------ =

--------
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Network Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"I had a coffee and Coke at lunch today...and now, I've got more jitter =

than an
IP phone on a long haul 10base2 =

connection" =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 LFJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marc Hering
> To: Voll, Scott ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 1:22 PM
> Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Reverse translation pattern
>
> I usually just set the externam phone number mask at the DN
> level...overrides everythign else

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Voll, Scott
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 1:17 PM
> To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Reverse translation pattern
>
> Can't I do this via A Translation Pattern?
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Voll, Scott
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:08 AM
> To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: [cisco-voip] Reverse translation pattern
>
> I'm bringing on a site that will have a main number then extensions.
>
> When dialing out I want the main number to show for all phones.=A0
>
> I'm doing toll bypass so I have about 150 prefix dial patterns and all
> of them are using the "use Calling Party's External Phone Number Mask"
> because the phones at other sites have DID's.=A0
>
> I really don't want to duplicate all the Route patterns.=A0
>
> Is there a way to say if extension =3D 12xx then make the phone mask
> 5035551212?
>
> I would like the phone to have the extension so the end user knows =

> there
> extension and I need space on the line label for names.
>
> Thanks
>
> Scott
>
>
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Lelio Fulgenzi

2005-07-22, 5:45 pm

Too bad they didn't make this service parameter a little more 'global' or 'configurable':

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Extension Display on 7910 Phone : This parameter specifies to display the extension number on cisco 7910 IP phone (when set to True) instead of the full 10-digit number. The default specifies False, and the full 10-digit directory number displays on 7910 IP Phone. Any changes to this parameter requires restarting of the phones affected by this parameter.
This is a required field.
Default: false.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Network Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"I had a coffee and Coke at lunch today...and now, I've got more jitter than an
IP phone on a long haul 10base2 connection" LFJ
----- Original Message -----
From: Voll, Scott
To: Lelio Fulgenzi ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 1:36 PM
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Reverse translation pattern

They are 7912 so four digits plus a space only gives me about 7 characters for the person's name. But that sounds like what I will have to do. I really am not in the mood to copy 150+ route patterns.

Scott

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:29 AM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Reverse translation pattern

If you're not willing to give up the extension on the top line of the phone, you will likely have to resort to creating new route patterns.

Can you not put the extension on the first line label? Obviously would take some work.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Network Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"I had a coffee and Coke at lunch today...and now, I've got more jitter than an
IP phone on a long haul 10base2 connection" LFJ

----- Original Message -----

From: Voll, Scott

To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net

Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 1:08 PM

Subject: [cisco-voip] Reverse translation pattern

I'm bringing on a site that will have a main number then extensions.

When dialing out I want the main number to show for all phones.

I'm doing toll bypass so I have about 150 prefix dial patterns and all
of them are using the "use Calling Party's External Phone Number Mask"
because the phones at other sites have DID's.

I really don't want to duplicate all the Route patterns.

Is there a way to say if extension = 12xx then make the phone mask
5035551212?

I would like the phone to have the extension so the end user knows there
extension and I need space on the line label for names.

Thanks

Scott

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Voll, Scott

2005-07-22, 5:45 pm

Nothing other then I wanted the extension on the top of the phone rather th=
en the phone mask.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.ne=
ther.net] On Behalf Of Ryan Ratliff
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:36 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Reverse translation pattern

Assuming no calling party modifications are being done at the route =

list, gateway, etc if your route pattern has the check box enabled for =

"use calling party's external phone number mask" the calling party =

should be set to whatever the line has as its external phone mask. =

What is keeping you from setting the mask for the phones at this site =

to the main number?

-Ryan
On Jul 22, 2005, at 1:26 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:

um, i think the DN is the least significant bit in this case. i think =

the precedence is:
=A0
DN -> Route Pattern -> Route List -> Route Group -> Gateway
=A0
with the gateway overwriting everything before it.
=A0
------------------------------------------------------------------------ =

--------
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Network Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"I had a coffee and Coke at lunch today...and now, I've got more jitter =

than an
IP phone on a long haul 10base2 =

connection" =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 LFJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marc Hering
> To: Voll, Scott ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 1:22 PM
> Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Reverse translation pattern
>
> I usually just set the externam phone number mask at the DN
> level...overrides everythign else