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Casanova, Chase

2006-10-24, 7:11 pm

Since the 7936's don't have PC ports, is there a reason to setup a voice
vlan on the switchport or is just setting the switchport up as access
vlan with the access vlan being the voice vlan enough?



Thanks,

-C


Lelio Fulgenzi

2006-10-24, 7:11 pm

It all depends on your security model. Why configure a port differently than all your other ports? I don't think there is any added value and quite honestly, I think there's more harm than anything. Port management is a big deal around here, so the easier the config the better. By sticking with a standard, you can move your device to any port and it works and you can move any device, laptop or phone, to that port and it works.

My (much more than) two cents...

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Senior Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
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----- Original Message -----
From: Casanova, Chase
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 3:33 PM
Subject: [cisco-voip] 4506 switchport config for 7936


Since the 7936's don't have PC ports, is there a reason to setup a voice vlan on the switchport or is just setting the switchport up as access vlan with the access vlan being the voice vlan enough?



Thanks,

-C



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Jonathan Charles

2006-10-26, 1:11 pm

I have found that with the 7935 and 7936s that they do not particularly like
an access and voice vlan together on a port... just configure the port for
access on the voice vlan...



Jonathan

On 10/24/06, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>
> It all depends on your security model. Why configure a port differently
> than all your other ports? I don't think there is any added value and quite
> honestly, I think there's more harm than anything. Port management is a big
> deal around here, so the easier the config the better. By sticking with a
> standard, you can move your device to any port and it works and you can move
> any device, laptop or phone, to that port and it works.
>
> My (much more than) two cents...
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> "I can eat fifty eggs." "Nobody can eat fifty eggs."
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Casanova, Chase <ccasanova@rti.org>
> *To:* cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 24, 2006 3:33 PM
> *Subject:* [cisco-voip] 4506 switchport config for 7936
>
> Since the 7936's don't have PC ports, is there a reason to setup a voice
> vlan on the switchport or is just setting the switchport up as access vlan
> with the access vlan being the voice vlan enough?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> -C
>
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Lelio Fulgenzi

2006-10-26, 1:11 pm

I've heard this from a few places, for us, we haven't had any problems. Wierd.

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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"I can eat fifty eggs." "Nobody can eat fifty eggs."
----- Original Message -----
From: Jonathan Charles
To: Lelio Fulgenzi
Cc: Casanova, Chase ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 4506 switchport config for 7936


I have found that with the 7935 and 7936s that they do not particularly like an access and voice vlan together on a port... just configure the port for access on the voice vlan...



Jonathan


On 10/24/06, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca> wrote:
It all depends on your security model. Why configure a port differently than all your other ports? I don't think there is any added value and quite honestly, I think there's more harm than anything. Port management is a big deal around here, so the easier the config the better. By sticking with a standard, you can move your device to any port and it works and you can move any device, laptop or phone, to that port and it works.

My (much more than) two cents...

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"I can eat fifty eggs." "Nobody can eat fifty eggs."
----- Original Message -----
From: Casanova, Chase
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 3:33 PM
Subject: [cisco-voip] 4506 switchport config for 7936


Since the 7936's don't have PC ports, is there a reason to setup a voice vlan on the switchport or is just setting the switchport up as access vlan with the access vlan being the voice vlan enough?



Thanks,

-C



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Casanova, Chase

2006-10-26, 1:11 pm

The reason I am asking is because we are having some intermittent issues
with a few of our 7936's and I am trying to correlate some similarities
in setups.



Would not having the voice vlan on a port cause any auto qos problems?
The switchport should still be able to tell that the device is a
cisco-phone even though it is not using the voice vlan, correct?



-C

________________________________

From: Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca]
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:24 AM
To: Jonathan Charles
Cc: Casanova, Chase; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 4506 switchport config for 7936



I've heard this from a few places, for us, we haven't had any problems.
Wierd.



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--------
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"I can eat fifty eggs." "Nobody can eat fifty eggs."

----- Original Message -----

From: Jonathan Charles <mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com>

To: Lelio Fulgenzi <mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca>

Cc: Casanova, Chase <mailto:ccasanova@rti.org> ;
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net

Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:18 AM

Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] 4506 switchport config for 7936



I have found that with the 7935 and 7936s that they do not
particularly like an access and voice vlan together on a port... just
configure the port for access on the voice vlan...



Jonathan

On 10/24/06, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca> wrote:

It all depends on your security model. Why configure a port
differently than all your other ports? I don't think there is any added
value and quite honestly, I think there's more harm than anything. Port
management is a big deal around here, so the easier the config the
better. By sticking with a standard, you can move your device to any
port and it works and you can move any device, laptop or phone, to that
port and it works.



My (much more than) two cents...




------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario
N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"I can eat fifty eggs." "Nobody can eat fifty eggs."



----- Original Message -----

From: Casanova, Chase <mailto:ccasanova@rti.org>

To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net

Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 3:33 PM

Subject: [cisco-voip] 4506 switchport config for 7936



Since the 7936's don't have PC ports, is there a reason
to setup a voice vlan on the switchport or is just setting the
switchport up as access vlan with the access vlan being the voice vlan
enough?



Thanks,

-C


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Jonathan Charles

2006-10-26, 1:11 pm

Not a problem if you do the following:

int fa0/47
switchport access vlan 400
switchport voice vlan 400


Keep em the same, marking will work fine.



Jonathan

On 10/26/06, Casanova, Chase <ccasanova@rti.org> wrote:
>
> The reason I am asking is because we are having some intermittent issues
> with a few of our 7936's and I am trying to correlate some similarities in
> setups.
>
>
>
> Would not having the voice vlan on a port cause any auto qos problems?
> The switchport should still be able to tell that the device is a cisco-phone
> even though it is not using the voice vlan, correct?
>
>
>
> -C
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:24 AM
> *To:* Jonathan Charles
> *Cc:* Casanova, Chase; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] 4506 switchport config for 7936
>
>
>
> I've heard this from a few places, for us, we haven't had any problems.
> Wierd.
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> "I can eat fifty eggs." "Nobody can eat fifty eggs."
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Jonathan Charles <jonvoip@gmail.com>
>
> *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca>
>
> *Cc:* Casanova, Chase <ccasanova@rti.org> ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:18 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] 4506 switchport config for 7936
>
>
>
> I have found that with the 7935 and 7936s that they do not particularly
> like an access and voice vlan together on a port... just configure the port
> for access on the voice vlan...
>
>
>
> Jonathan
>
> On 10/24/06, *Lelio Fulgenzi* <lelio@uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>
> It all depends on your security model. Why configure a port differently
> than all your other ports? I don't think there is any added value and quite
> honestly, I think there's more harm than anything. Port management is a big
> deal around here, so the easier the config the better. By sticking with a
> standard, you can move your device to any port and it works and you can move
> any device, laptop or phone, to that port and it works.
>
>
>
> My (much more than) two cents...
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> "I can eat fifty eggs." "Nobody can eat fifty eggs."
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Casanova, Chase <ccasanova@rti.org>
>
> *To:* cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 24, 2006 3:33 PM
>
> *Subject:* [cisco-voip] 4506 switchport config for 7936
>
>
>
> Since the 7936's don't have PC ports, is there a reason to setup a voice
> vlan on the switchport or is just setting the switchport up as access vlan
> with the access vlan being the voice vlan enough?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> -C
> ------------------------------
>
> ________________________________________
_______
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>
>
> ________________________________________
_______
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
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>
>
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