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| Melvin Fong 2006-10-31, 7:12 pm |
| We have an old call manager server MCS7835 TD with a 18.2 G hard drive
and 2G of memory and we are down to 9% free space on our hard drive. I
am down to deleting evt.log files and moving RTMT pdf report files to
free space.
We have a MCS7835H 3.0 IPC1 server and we want to replace the 36G
drives with 72G drives and up the memory from 2G to 4 or 6G. The
following doc shows we can have up to 6G of memory
(http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products..._bulletin0900ae
cd80284099.html). Does anyone know if we will be causing any problems
adding more memory than 2G?
Thanks.........Mel
| |
| Jonathan Charles 2006-11-01, 1:12 am |
| More memory is always better...
We have a MeetingPlace server with 8GB at work... our CCMs only have 2GB,
but I can only imagine that the more RAM, the more happy.
Jonathan
On 10/31/06, Melvin Fong <mfong@pacific.edu> wrote:
>
> We have an old call manager server MCS7835 TD with a 18.2 G hard drive
> and 2G of memory and we are down to 9% free space on our hard drive. I
> am down to deleting evt.log files and moving RTMT pdf report files to
> free space.
> We have a MCS7835H 3.0 IPC1 server and we want to replace the 36G
> drives with 72G drives and up the memory from 2G to 4 or 6G. The
> following doc shows we can have up to 6G of memory
> (http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products..._bulletin0900ae
>
> cd80284099.html). Does anyone know if we will be causing any problems
> adding more memory than 2G?
> Thanks.........Mel
> ________________________________________
_______
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>
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| Mike Lay \(milay\) 2006-11-01, 1:12 am |
| Windows can not address more than 2G of RAM for applications without
making changes to the boot.ini file. You will need to add a statement to
this file, /3GB. If you do not add this you are just wasting your money.
Also you will need to increase your paging file size & modify the
Startup & Recovery options in windows to allow a complete memory dump.
If these adjustments are not made if the server generates a memory.dmp
file it will be truncated & will be of no use in determining the cause
of the failure that generated the memory dump.
Note: Only 3G of RAM can be addressed by applications. You can upgrade
to 4G but it will only be addressed by the system process, but only
after the initial 3G is consumed.
Mike
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[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Charles
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:40 PM
To: Melvin Fong
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrade Server
More memory is always better...
We have a MeetingPlace server with 8GB at work... our CCMs only have
2GB, but I can only imagine that the more RAM, the more happy.
Jonathan
On 10/31/06, Melvin Fong <mfong@pacific.edu> wrote:
We have an old call manager server MCS7835 TD with a 18.2 G hard
drive
and 2G of memory and we are down to 9% free space on our hard
drive. I
am down to deleting evt.log files and moving RTMT pdf report
files to
free space.
We have a MCS7835H 3.0 IPC1 server and we want to replace the
36G
drives with 72G drives and up the memory from 2G to 4 or 6G.
The
following doc shows we can have up to 6G of memory
(
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products..._bulletin0900ae
<http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products...d_bulletin0900a
e>
cd80284099.html). Does anyone know if we will be causing any
problems
adding more memory than 2G?
Thanks.........Mel
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| Mike Lay \(milay\) 2006-11-01, 1:12 am |
| Only cisco Servers running Windows 2000 Advanced server will be able to
utilize this extra RAM, even if the changes described below, this limits
you to MCS-7845 servers. This will change when the cisco platforms are
certified on 2003.
Mike
________________________________
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Mike Lay
(milay)
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:14 PM
To: Jonathan Charles; Melvin Fong
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrade Server
Windows can not address more than 2G of RAM for applications without
making changes to the boot.ini file. You will need to add a statement to
this file, /3GB. If you do not add this you are just wasting your money.
Also you will need to increase your paging file size & modify the
Startup & Recovery options in windows to allow a complete memory dump.
If these adjustments are not made if the server generates a memory.dmp
file it will be truncated & will be of no use in determining the cause
of the failure that generated the memory dump.
Note: Only 3G of RAM can be addressed by applications. You can upgrade
to 4G but it will only be addressed by the system process, but only
after the initial 3G is consumed.
Mike
________________________________
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Charles
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 8:40 PM
To: Melvin Fong
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrade Server
More memory is always better...
We have a MeetingPlace server with 8GB at work... our CCMs only have
2GB, but I can only imagine that the more RAM, the more happy.
Jonathan
On 10/31/06, Melvin Fong <mfong@pacific.edu> wrote:
We have an old call manager server MCS7835 TD with a 18.2 G hard
drive
and 2G of memory and we are down to 9% free space on our hard
drive. I
am down to deleting evt.log files and moving RTMT pdf report
files to
free space.
We have a MCS7835H 3.0 IPC1 server and we want to replace the
36G
drives with 72G drives and up the memory from 2G to 4 or 6G.
The
following doc shows we can have up to 6G of memory
(
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products..._bulletin0900ae
<http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products...d_bulletin0900a
e>
cd80284099.html). Does anyone know if we will be causing any
problems
adding more memory than 2G?
Thanks.........Mel
________________________________________
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cisco-voip mailing list
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
| |
| Chris Ellington 2006-11-01, 1:11 pm |
| Normally I would agree but after working with CCM5 there are _very_ strict hardware checks so be careful.
My example-
I have an HP DL320G4 with a 3.0G dual core; 72G SATA drives & 2G RAM. I have another server, MCS7825, which is a DL320G4 with a 2.8G processor, 72G SATA drives and 2G RAM.
Guess which one CCM 5 WILL NOT install on even though the only difference is a faster processor? The screen comes back and informs me that all is supported except the 3.0G processor. I would hope that on the drives and RAM it's a lower bound check and n
ot a strict exact check but only cisco can answer that (or I guess I could if I bought bigger drives and more ram)
Chris
--
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CCIE #6814
Network Solutions, Inc.
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:39:49 -0600
From: "Jonathan Charles" <jonvoip@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrade Server
To: "Melvin Fong" <mfong@pacific.edu>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
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More memory is always better...
We have a MeetingPlace server with 8GB at work... our CCMs only have 2GB, but I can only imagine that the more RAM, the more happy.
Jonathan
On 10/31/06, Melvin Fong <mfong@pacific.edu> wrote:
>
> We have an old call manager server MCS7835 TD with a 18.2 G hard drive
> and 2G of memory and we are down to 9% free space on our hard drive.
> I am down to deleting evt.log files and moving RTMT pdf report files
> to free space.
> We have a MCS7835H 3.0 IPC1 server and we want to replace the 36G
> drives with 72G drives and up the memory from 2G to 4 or 6G. The
> following doc shows we can have up to 6G of memory
> (http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products...rod_bulletin090
> 0ae
>
> cd80284099.html). Does anyone know if we will be causing any problems
> adding more memory than 2G?
> Thanks.........Mel
> ________________________________________
_______
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>
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| Ryan Ratliff 2006-11-01, 1:11 pm |
| AFAIK we have not certified any dual-core CPUs for use with CM. I'm
sure testing is underway on some but that's just a guess really.
-Ryan
On Nov 1, 2006, at 10:17 AM, Chris Ellington wrote:
Normally I would agree but after working with CCM5 there are _very_
strict hardware checks so be careful.
My example-
I have an HP DL320G4 with a 3.0G dual core; 72G SATA drives & 2G
RAM. I have another server, MCS7825, which is a DL320G4 with a 2.8G
processor, 72G SATA drives and 2G RAM.
Guess which one CCM 5 WILL NOT install on even though the only
difference is a faster processor? The screen comes back and informs
me that all is supported except the 3.0G processor. I would hope
that on the drives and RAM it's a lower bound check and not a strict
exact check but only cisco can answer that (or I guess I could if I
bought bigger drives and more ram)
Chris
--
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CCIE #6814
Network Solutions, Inc.
Message: 1
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:39:49 -0600
From: "Jonathan Charles" <jonvoip@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrade Server
To: "Melvin Fong" <mfong@pacific.edu>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
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More memory is always better...
We have a MeetingPlace server with 8GB at work... our CCMs only have
2GB, but I can only imagine that the more RAM, the more happy.
Jonathan
On 10/31/06, Melvin Fong <mfong@pacific.edu> wrote:
>
> We have an old call manager server MCS7835 TD with a 18.2 G hard drive
> and 2G of memory and we are down to 9% free space on our hard drive.
> I am down to deleting evt.log files and moving RTMT pdf report files
> to free space.
> We have a MCS7835H 3.0 IPC1 server and we want to replace the 36G
> drives with 72G drives and up the memory from 2G to 4 or 6G. The
> following doc shows we can have up to 6G of memory
> (http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products...rod_bulletin090
> 0ae
>
> cd80284099.html). Does anyone know if we will be causing any problems
> adding more memory than 2G?
> Thanks.........Mel
> ________________________________________
_______
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>
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| Andre Beck 2006-11-03, 7:12 pm |
| On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 10:17:45AM -0500, Chris Ellington wrote:
> Normally I would agree but after working with CCM5 there are _very_ strict hardware checks so be careful.
>
> My example-
>
> I have an HP DL320G4 with a 3.0G dual core; 72G SATA drives & 2G RAM. I have another server, MCS7825, which is a DL320G4 with a 2.8G processor, 72G SATA drives and 2G RAM.
In my case it was an IBM x346 in a slightly newer configuration, which
essentially failed on the product part number in the flash.
> Guess which one CCM 5 WILL NOT install on even though the only difference is a faster processor? The screen comes back and informs me that all is supported except the 3.0G processor. I would hope that on the drives and RAM it's a lower bound check and
not a strict exact check but only cisco can answer that (or I guess I could if I bought bigger drives and more ram)
Such checks are rather stupid on an ever changing plattform like the PC is
(even when it comes to dedicated server hardware). Certifying platforms is
one thing, but insisting on outdated models, BIOS and RAID firmwares is just
painful. In my case, the 4.1 installer (2000.2.7) forcibly downgraded the
machine's BIOS to a version that failed to detect the CPU correctly...
With CCM 5, have a look into the HWTABLE.data file on the DVD. It will
list the exact models that this DVD will support. If you think yours should
work as well, but fails on some silly detail like part number or 200MHz
clock difference, just add some new lines to this file and rebuild the DVD.
This works at least with 5.0. For newer versions, cisco already threatened
to make the installation cryptographically signed...
--
The _S_anta _C_laus _O_peration
or "how to turn a complete illusion into a neverending money source"
-> Andre Beck +++ ABP-RIPE +++ IBH Prof. Dr. Horn GmbH, Dresden <-
| |
| Melvin Fong 2006-11-06, 1:11 pm |
| It seems 2G is the overall agreement on memory for a MCS 7835, I have
also been told that if I change my 36G hard drive to a 72G that it will
not be supported, but another TAC person said it would be fine. We are
running out of drive space, so it doesn't look like I have much choice.
Mel
AFAIK we have not certified any dual-core CPUs for use with CM. I'm
sure testing is underway on some but that's just a guess really.
-Ryan
On Nov 1, 2006, at 10:17 AM, Chris Ellington wrote:
Normally I would agree but after working with CCM5 there are _very_
strict hardware checks so be careful.
My example-
I have an HP DL320G4 with a 3.0G dual core; 72G SATA drives & 2G
RAM. I have another server, MCS7825, which is a DL320G4 with a 2.8G
processor, 72G SATA drives and 2G RAM.
Guess which one CCM 5 WILL NOT install on even though the only
difference is a faster processor? The screen comes back and informs
me that all is supported except the 3.0G processor. I would hope
that on the drives and RAM it's a lower bound check and not a strict
exact check but only cisco can answer that (or I guess I could if I
bought bigger drives and more ram)
Chris
--
Christopher S. Ellington
CCIE #6814
Network Solutions, Inc.
Message: 1
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:39:49 -0600
From: "Jonathan Charles" <jonvoip@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrade Server
To: "Melvin Fong" <mfong@pacific.edu>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Message-ID:
< 5d093f9a0610311839y4f80f876v58e024853561
1e98@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
More memory is always better...
We have a MeetingPlace server with 8GB at work... our CCMs only have
2GB, but I can only imagine that the more RAM, the more happy.
Jonathan
On 10/31/06, Melvin Fong <mfong@pacific.edu> wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> We have an old call manager server MCS7835 TD with a 18.2 G hard
drive
> and 2G of memory and we are down to 9% free space on our hard drive.
> I am down to deleting evt.log files and moving RTMT pdf report files
> to free space.
> We have a MCS7835H 3.0 IPC1 server and we want to replace the 36G
> drives with 72G drives and up the memory from 2G to 4 or 6G. The
> following doc shows we can have up to 6G of memory
>
(http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products...rod_bulletin090
> 0ae
>
> cd80284099.html). Does anyone know if we will be causing any
problems
> adding more memory than 2G?
> Thanks.........Mel
> ________________________________________
_______
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>
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| STEVEN CASPER 2006-11-13, 8:10 am |
| I have DL380 G4 servers using dual Dual Xeon 3.2ghz processor. 4.1.3
installed with no problem but is this going to cause me issues down the
road?
Thanks!
Steve Casper
Voice Technologies
M&T Bank
(410) 347-6026
On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 10:17:45AM -0500, Chris Ellington wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> Normally I would agree but after working with CCM5 there are _very_
strict hardware checks so be careful.
>
> My example-
>
> I have an HP DL320G4 with a 3.0G dual core; 72G SATA drives & 2G RAM.
I have another server, MCS7825, which is a DL320G4 with a 2.8G
processor, 72G SATA drives and 2G RAM.
In my case it was an IBM x346 in a slightly newer configuration, which
essentially failed on the product part number in the flash.
> Guess which one CCM 5 WILL NOT install on even though the only
difference is a faster processor? The screen comes back and informs me
that all is supported except the 3.0G processor. I would hope that on
the drives and RAM it's a lower bound check and not a strict exact check
but only cisco can answer that (or I guess I could if I bought bigger
drives and more ram)
Such checks are rather stupid on an ever changing plattform like the PC
is
(even when it comes to dedicated server hardware). Certifying platforms
is
one thing, but insisting on outdated models, BIOS and RAID firmwares is
just
painful. In my case, the 4.1 installer (2000.2.7) forcibly downgraded
the
machine's BIOS to a version that failed to detect the CPU correctly...
With CCM 5, have a look into the HWTABLE.data file on the DVD. It will
list the exact models that this DVD will support. If you think yours
should
work as well, but fails on some silly detail like part number or
200MHz
clock difference, just add some new lines to this file and rebuild the
DVD.
This works at least with 5.0. For newer versions, cisco already
threatened
to make the installation cryptographically signed...
--
The _S_anta _C_laus _O_peration
or "how to turn a complete illusion into a neverending money source"
-> Andre Beck +++ ABP-RIPE +++ IBH Prof. Dr. Horn GmbH, Dresden
<-
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| Wes Sisk 2006-11-13, 8:10 am |
| does the platform match those described here down to processor speed?
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/voiceapp/ps378/
prod_brochure_list.html
In 4.x we generally check minimum amount of memory, number of HD, and
minimum HD size.
Processor speed is occasionally verified.
In 5.x processor speed is verified. Minimum amount of memory, number
of HD, and minimum HD size.
/Wes
On Nov 10, 2006, at 1:12 PM, STEVEN CASPER wrote:
I have DL380 G4 servers using dual Dual Xeon 3.2ghz processor. 4.1.3
installed with no problem but is this going to cause me issues down the
road?
Thanks!
Steve Casper
Voice Technologies
M&T Bank
(410) 347-6026
On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 10:17:45AM -0500, Chris Ellington wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> Normally I would agree but after working with CCM5 there are _very_
strict hardware checks so be careful.
>
> My example-
>
> I have an HP DL320G4 with a 3.0G dual core; 72G SATA drives & 2G RAM.
I have another server, MCS7825, which is a DL320G4 with a 2.8G
processor, 72G SATA drives and 2G RAM.
In my case it was an IBM x346 in a slightly newer configuration, which
essentially failed on the product part number in the flash.
> Guess which one CCM 5 WILL NOT install on even though the only
difference is a faster processor? The screen comes back and informs me
that all is supported except the 3.0G processor. I would hope that on
the drives and RAM it's a lower bound check and not a strict exact check
but only cisco can answer that (or I guess I could if I bought bigger
drives and more ram)
Such checks are rather stupid on an ever changing plattform like the PC
is
(even when it comes to dedicated server hardware). Certifying platforms
is
one thing, but insisting on outdated models, BIOS and RAID firmwares is
just
painful. In my case, the 4.1 installer (2000.2.7) forcibly downgraded
the
machine's BIOS to a version that failed to detect the CPU correctly...
With CCM 5, have a look into the HWTABLE.data file on the DVD. It will
list the exact models that this DVD will support. If you think yours
should
work as well, but fails on some silly detail like part number or
200MHz
clock difference, just add some new lines to this file and rebuild the
DVD.
This works at least with 5.0. For newer versions, cisco already
threatened
to make the installation cryptographically signed...
--
The _S_anta _C_laus _O_peration
or "how to turn a complete illusion into a neverending money source"
-> Andre Beck +++ ABP-RIPE +++ IBH Prof. Dr. Horn GmbH, Dresden
<-
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| STEVEN CASPER 2006-11-13, 8:10 am |
| No, you can use a 3.4 and a 3.0 but no 3.2, that hertz! Oh well by the
time we would worry about upgrading to CM 6.0 it will be time for a
server refresh anyway.
does the platform match those described here down to processor speed?
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/voiceapp/ps378/
prod_brochure_list.html
In 4.x we generally check minimum amount of memory, number of HD, and
minimum HD size.
Processor speed is occasionally verified.
In 5.x processor speed is verified. Minimum amount of memory, number
of HD, and minimum HD size.
/Wes
On Nov 10, 2006, at 1:12 PM, STEVEN CASPER wrote:
I have DL380 G4 servers using dual Dual Xeon 3.2ghz processor. 4.1.3
installed with no problem but is this going to cause me issues down
the
road?
Thanks!
Steve Casper
Voice Technologies
M&T Bank
(410) 347-6026
[vbcol=seagreen]
On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 10:17:45AM -0500, Chris Ellington wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> Normally I would agree but after working with CCM5 there are _very_
strict hardware checks so be careful.
>
> My example-
>
> I have an HP DL320G4 with a 3.0G dual core; 72G SATA drives & 2G
RAM.
I have another server, MCS7825, which is a DL320G4 with a 2.8G
processor, 72G SATA drives and 2G RAM.
In my case it was an IBM x346 in a slightly newer configuration, which
essentially failed on the product part number in the flash.
> Guess which one CCM 5 WILL NOT install on even though the only
difference is a faster processor? The screen comes back and informs
me
that all is supported except the 3.0G processor. I would hope that on
the drives and RAM it's a lower bound check and not a strict exact
check
but only cisco can answer that (or I guess I could if I bought bigger
drives and more ram)
Such checks are rather stupid on an ever changing plattform like the
PC
is
(even when it comes to dedicated server hardware). Certifying
platforms
is
one thing, but insisting on outdated models, BIOS and RAID firmwares
is
just
painful. In my case, the 4.1 installer (2000.2.7) forcibly downgraded
the
machine's BIOS to a version that failed to detect the CPU correctly...
With CCM 5, have a look into the HWTABLE.data file on the DVD. It will
list the exact models that this DVD will support. If you think yours
should
work as well, but fails on some silly detail like part number or
200MHz
clock difference, just add some new lines to this file and rebuild the
DVD.
This works at least with 5.0. For newer versions, cisco already
threatened
to make the installation cryptographically signed...
--
The _S_anta _C_laus _O_peration
or "how to turn a complete illusion into a neverending money
source"
-> Andre Beck +++ ABP-RIPE +++ IBH Prof. Dr. Horn GmbH, Dresden
<-
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