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| Howard, Chad 2006-11-03, 7:12 pm |
| Anyone know what the route pattern wildards A, B, C, D are used for ?
The docs I've found so far say they're valid characters, but they aren't
listed in the wildcard explanations.
Thanks.
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| Lelio Fulgenzi 2006-11-03, 7:12 pm |
| Missing CD for CM Installsomeone told me once they are used in military communications. top secret stuff i guess.
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Subject: [cisco-voip] RP Wildcards A,B,C,D
Anyone know what the route pattern wildards A, B, C, D are used for ?
The docs I've found so far say they're valid characters, but they aren't listed in the wildcard explanations.
Thanks.
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| Philip Walenta 2006-11-03, 7:12 pm |
| ABCD are touch tones. Generally they are used on CAS trunks and in some
voicemail (OCTEL uses them as part of message transfers between foreign
voicemail) systems. I've also seen them on older H.323 terminals.
They generally aren't used much in most modern systems.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DTMF
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Subject: [cisco-voip] RP Wildcards A,B,C,D
Anyone know what the route pattern wildards A, B, C, D are used for ?
The docs I've found so far say they're valid characters, but they aren't
listed in the wildcard explanations.
Thanks.
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| Lelio Fulgenzi 2006-11-03, 7:12 pm |
| Missing CD for CM Installwell, that doesn't sound nearly as interesting an top secret military stuff, but it looks more accurate.
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From: Philip Walenta
To: 'Howard, Chad' ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] RP Wildcards A,B,C,D
ABCD are touch tones. Generally they are used on CAS trunks and in some voicemail (OCTEL uses them as part of message transfers between foreign voicemail) systems. I've also seen them on older H.323 terminals.
They generally aren't used much in most modern systems.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DTMF
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Subject: [cisco-voip] RP Wildcards A,B,C,D
Anyone know what the route pattern wildards A, B, C, D are used for ?
The docs I've found so far say they're valid characters, but they aren't listed in the wildcard explanations.
Thanks.
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| Jason Aarons \(US\) 2006-11-03, 7:12 pm |
| MLPP
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AT&T had lines buried into concrete tosurvive a cold-war attack...this feature was requested by Dept of Defense for military requirements
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Subject: [cisco-voip] RP Wildcards A,B,C,D
Anyone know what the route patternwildards A, B, C, D are used for ?
The docs I've found so far say they're valid characters, but they aren't listed in the wildcard explanations.
Thanks.
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| Jonathan Charles 2006-11-03, 7:12 pm |
| This is going to sound unnecessary, but A-D are cool to use as prefixes for
your backend lines (CTI ports to IPCC, CTI Route Points, etc..) basically
anything you don't want phones to dial, and you don't want telco to
accidentally assign to you (when you run out of DIDs) and step on some large
chunk of your dial-plan.
So, you make your Voicemail hunt lines, A400-A431 and that way no one can
call them directly, but they can still be used by your vmail hunt pilot...
BTW, just so you know, if you need people to call one of them, just use a
real number on a translation pattern to the one with the DTMF tones
(actually, you are probably better off making it a CTI Route Point with a
CFA to the non-number number...)
Jonathan
On 11/3/06, Jason Aarons (US) <jason.aarons@us.didata.com> wrote:
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> MLPP
>
> Command and Control
>
> AT&T had lines buried into concrete to survive a cold-war attack...this
> feature was requested by Dept of Defense for military requirements
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net on behalf of Howard, Chad
> *Sent:* Fri 11/3/2006 4:08 PM
> *To:* cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* [cisco-voip] RP Wildcards A,B,C,D
>
> Anyone know what the route pattern wildards A, B, C, D are used for ?
>
> The docs I've found so far say they're valid characters, but they aren't
> listed in the wildcard explanations.
>
> Thanks.
>
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| Lelio Fulgenzi 2006-11-03, 7:12 pm |
| hmmmm, I just tried this and no DN will accept the letters A.
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jonathan Charles
To: Jason Aarons (US)
Cc: Howard, Chad ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] RP Wildcards A,B,C,D
This is going to sound unnecessary, but A-D are cool to use as prefixes for your backend lines (CTI ports to IPCC, CTI Route Points, etc..) basically anything you don't want phones to dial, and you don't want telco to accidentally assign to you (when you run out of DIDs) and step on some large chunk of your dial-plan.
So, you make your Voicemail hunt lines, A400-A431 and that way no one can call them directly, but they can still be used by your vmail hunt pilot...
BTW, just so you know, if you need people to call one of them, just use a real number on a translation pattern to the one with the DTMF tones (actually, you are probably better off making it a CTI Route Point with a CFA to the non-number number...)
Jonathan
On 11/3/06, Jason Aarons (US) <jason.aarons@us.didata.com> wrote:
MLPP
Command and Control
AT&T had lines buried into concrete to survive a cold-war attack...this feature was requested by Dept of Defense for military requirements
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Sent: Fri 11/3/2006 4:08 PM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] RP Wildcards A,B,C,D
Anyone know what the route pattern wildards A, B, C, D are used for ?
The docs I've found so far say they're valid characters, but they aren't listed in the wildcard explanations.
Thanks.
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| Fred Nielsen 2006-11-03, 7:12 pm |
| A, B, C and D are valid DTMF "digits" with their own tones... imagine
another column of four more keys on the right hand side of your existing
keypad with A - D running top to bottom. This column has its own tone in
the "Dual-Tone Multiple Frequency" setup, and uses the same row tone as that
used by the digits you are already familiar with, combined to make a
dual-tone like every other digit.
They were principally used on the U.S. DOD AUTOVON private telephone network
to signal priority. A call preceded by an A (flash override, the highest
priority) would preempt any calls on congested trunks with lower priorities.
The remaining three digits represented lower levels of priority, and a call
with no digits preceding was deemed "routine" with the lowest priority of
all. Telephone carriers companies used to also use them for various signal
indications back when analog trunks were still fairly prevalent.
Sometimes you will see technician buttsets with A-D keys on them still.
Kinda neat.
-- Fred Nielsen
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[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 1:51 PM
To: Howard, Chad; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] RP Wildcards A,B,C,D
someone told me once they are used in military communications. top secret
stuff i guess.
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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"I can eat fifty eggs." "Nobody can eat fifty eggs."
----- Original Message -----
From: Howard, <mailto:Chad.Howard@ecolab.com> Chad
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:08 PM
Subject: [cisco-voip] RP Wildcards A,B,C,D
Anyone know what the route pattern wildards A, B, C, D are used for ?
The docs I've found so far say they're valid characters, but they aren't
listed in the wildcard explanations.
Thanks.
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| Jonathan Charles 2006-11-03, 7:12 pm |
| Yep, I just tried it with CCM 4.2(3) and it failed horrifically:
"Directory Number contains one or more invalid characters. Valid characters
for Directory Number are
numbers, the letter X, dashes and the following character(s):
* # [ ^ ] + ? !"
I guess all those IPT gurus on this board who keep saying it works never
tried it either...
I tried it on a CTI Route Point and a CTI port...
Jonathan
On 11/3/06, Fred Nielsen <fwn@feasible.net> wrote:
>
> A, B, C and D are valid DTMF "digits" with their own tones... imagine
> another column of four more keys on the right hand side of your existing
> keypad with A - D running top to bottom. This column has its own tone in
> the "Dual-Tone Multiple Frequency" setup, and uses the same row tone as that
> used by the digits you are already familiar with, combined to make a
> dual-tone like every other digit.
>
> They were principally used on the U.S. DOD AUTOVON private telephone
> network to signal priority. A call preceded by an A (flash override, the
> highest priority) would preempt any calls on congested trunks with lower
> priorities. The remaining three digits represented lower levels of
> priority, and a call with no digits preceding was deemed "routine" with the
> lowest priority of all. Telephone carriers companies used to also use them
> for various signal indications back when analog trunks were still fairly
> prevalent.
>
> Sometimes you will see technician buttsets with A-D keys on them still.
> Kinda neat.
>
> -- Fred Nielsen
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:
> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] *On Behalf Of *Lelio Fulgenzi
> *Sent:* Friday, November 03, 2006 1:51 PM
> *To:* Howard, Chad; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] RP Wildcards A,B,C,D
>
> someone told me once they are used in military communications. top secret
> stuff i guess.
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> "I can eat fifty eggs." "Nobody can eat fifty eggs."
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Howard, Chad <Chad.Howard@ecolab.com>
> *To:* cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> *Sent:* Friday, November 03, 2006 4:08 PM
> *Subject:* [cisco-voip] RP Wildcards A,B,C,D
>
> Anyone know what the route pattern wildards A, B, C, D are used for ?
>
> The docs I've found so far say they're valid characters, but they aren't
> listed in the wildcard explanations.
>
> Thanks.
>
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| Wes Sisk 2006-11-04, 1:11 am |
| while technically valid digits, i've never seen them used in
numbers. I suspect digging in Q.24 (dtmf) and/or 464 might give some
indicators of why - maybe not valid routes similar to 10.x.x.x in the
IP world. but enough supposition.
The places I have frequently seen A,B,C, and D are:
transcription machines - there are several transctiption machines
that come with foot petals that send A/B dtmf to scroll forward/
backward in conversation.
OctelNet - octel networking makes heavy use of ABCD
/Wes
On Nov 3, 2006, at 6:18 PM, Jonathan Charles wrote:
Yep, I just tried it with CCM 4.2(3) and it failed horrifically:
"Directory Number contains one or more invalid characters. Valid
characters for Directory Number are
numbers, the letter X, dashes and the following character(s):
* # [ ^ ] + ? !"
I guess all those IPT gurus on this board who keep saying it works
never tried it either...
I tried it on a CTI Route Point and a CTI port...
Jonathan
On 11/3/06, Fred Nielsen <fwn@feasible.net> wrote:
A, B, C and D are valid DTMF "digits" with their own tones... imagine
another column of four more keys on the right hand side of your
existing keypad with A - D running top to bottom. This column has
its own tone in the "Dual-Tone Multiple Frequency" setup, and uses
the same row tone as that used by the digits you are already familiar
with, combined to make a dual-tone like every other digit.
They were principally used on the U.S. DOD AUTOVON private telephone
network to signal priority. A call preceded by an A (flash override,
the highest priority) would preempt any calls on congested trunks
with lower priorities. The remaining three digits represented lower
levels of priority, and a call with no digits preceding was deemed
"routine" with the lowest priority of all. Telephone carriers
companies used to also use them for various signal indications back
when analog trunks were still fairly prevalent.
Sometimes you will see technician buttsets with A-D keys on them
still. Kinda neat.
-- Fred Nielsen
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-
bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 1:51 PM
To: Howard, Chad; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] RP Wildcards A,B,C,D
someone told me once they are used in military communications. top
secret stuff i guess.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"I can eat fifty eggs." "Nobody can eat fifty eggs."
----- Original Message -----
From: Howard, Chad
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:08 PM
Subject: [cisco-voip] RP Wildcards A,B,C,D
Anyone know what the route pattern wildards A, B, C, D are used for ?
The docs I've found so far say they're valid characters, but they
aren't listed in the wildcard explanations.
Thanks.
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