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| Lelio Fulgenzi 2006-03-23, 8:47 pm |
| ok, who else doesn't like how DNs hang around after you delete them? i can understand an actual deletion, but if i create a DN in partition A and move it to partition B, voila, an unassigned DN in partition A now exists.
ugh.
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| Seth Call 2006-03-23, 8:47 pm |
| There has to be a good reason for it, but I sure wish I knew what it
was... maybe line creation is expensive? And so if you are mucking
around with lines and partitions a lot...
I don't like it either, though
________________________________
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:20 AM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
ok, who else doesn't like how DNs hang around after you delete them? i
can understand an actual deletion, but if i create a DN in partition A
and move it to partition B, voila, an unassigned DN in partition A now
exists.
ugh.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Network Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sanity First : Number of days with fewer than
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| Matt Slaga \(US\) 2006-03-23, 8:47 pm |
| Well, it does create more work for people like us.... That equals
$$....
________________________________
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Seth Call
Sent: Thursday, March23, 2006 9:25 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
There has to be a good reason for it, but I sure wish I knew what it
was... maybe line creation is expensive? And so if you are mucking
around with lines and partitions a lot...
I don't like it either, though
________________________________
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:20 AM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
ok, who else doesn't like how DNs hang around after you delete them? i
can understand an actual deletion, but if i create a DNin partition A
and move it to partition B, voila, an unassigned DN inpartition A now
exists.
ugh.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Network Analyst(CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
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| Lelio Fulgenzi 2006-03-23, 8:47 pm |
| You have to remember that some people are doing in-house management, so more work equals less $$. 
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----- Original Message -----
From: Matt Slaga (US)
To: Seth Call ; Lelio Fulgenzi ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:31 AM
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
Well, it does create more work for people like us.... That equals $$....
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From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Seth Call
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 9:25 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
There has to be a good reason for it, but I sure wish I knew what it was. maybe line creation is expensive? And so if you are mucking around with lines and partitions a lot.
I don't like it either, though
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From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:20 AM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
ok, who else doesn't like how DNs hang around after you delete them? i can understand an actual deletion, but if i create a DN in partition A and move it to partition B, voila, an unassigned DN in partition A now exists.
ugh.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Network Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
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| Voll, Scott 2006-03-23, 8:47 pm |
| Wes, Ryan, or Kevin like to chime in?
Scott
PS. I'm with you all
________________________________
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:21 AM
To: Matt Slaga (US); Seth Call; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
You have to remember that some people are doing in-house management, so
more work equals less $$.
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Network Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sanity First : Number of days with fewer than
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----- Original Message -----
From: Matt Slaga (US) <mailto:Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com>
To: Seth Call <mailto:scall@metreos.com> ; Lelio Fulgenzi
<mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca> ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:31 AM
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
Well, it does create more work for people like us.... That
equals $$....
________________________________
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Seth Call
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 9:25 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
There has to be a good reason for it, but I sure wish I knew
what it was... maybe line creation is expensive? And so if you are
mucking around with lines and partitions a lot...
I don't like it either, though
________________________________
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:20 AM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
ok, who else doesn't like how DNs hang around after you delete
them? i can understand an actual deletion, but if i create a DN in
partition A and move it to partition B, voila, an unassigned DN in
partition A now exists.
ugh.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Network Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario
N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
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| Ed Leatherman 2006-03-23, 8:47 pm |
| If you delete a line on a set, and then go to add it to a new set, then
callmanager remembers some of the settings for that partition/DN pair.. I
guess cause it's saved lke that. Not sure how handy that is, although its
nice having some of that stuff auto-filled for shared lines.
That's the only thing I can think of. 
On 3/23/06, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>
> ok, who else doesn't like how DNs hang around after you delete them? i can
> understand an actual deletion, but if i create a DN in partition A and move
> it to partition B, voila, an unassigned DN in partition A now exists.
>
> ugh.
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Network Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
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| Kevin Thorngren 2006-03-23, 8:47 pm |
| No, I wouldn't like to chime in ;-)
Actually this URL explains why this feature was added:
http://www.ciscotaccc.com/voice/showcase?case=K91031031
"Unassigned DNs allow customers to continue forwarding to voice mail or
another destination for DNs that are no longer assigned to devices.
This happens often when employees are reassigned or terminated."
We had requirements from some customers for this type of feature.
HTH,
Kevin
On Mar 23, 2006, at 1:10 PM, Voll, Scott wrote:
>
> Wes, Ryan, or Kevin like to chime in?
> _
> Scott
> _
> PS._ I’m with you all
> _
>
> From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio
> Fulgenzi
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:21 AM
> To: Matt Slaga (US); Seth Call; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
> _
> You have to remember that some people are doing in-house management,
> so more work equals less $$.
> _
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Network Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Sanity First : Number of days with fewer than
> 50 messages in my inbox at the end of the day:________ 14
> ________________________________________
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| Craig M Staffin 2006-03-23, 8:47 pm |
| we had the same request and there is a far easier solution
If your DID range is 3400-3600 just create a transform in the partition
that is for that range that points to VM this will force all numbers that
are not assigned to go to the VM system. Even if they have never been
assigned.
Craig
Kevin Thorngren <kthorngr@cisco.com>
Sent by: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
03/23/2006 01:55 PM
To: "Voll, Scott" <Scott.Voll@wesd.org>
cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net, "Matt Slaga \(US\)" <Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
No, I wouldn't like to chime in ;-)
Actually this URL explains why this feature was added:
http://www.ciscotaccc.com/voice/showcase?case=K91031031
"Unassigned DNs allow customers to continue forwarding to voice mail or
another destination for DNs that are no longer assigned to devices.
This happens often when employees are reassigned or terminated."
We had requirements from some customers for this type of feature.
HTH,
Kevin
On Mar 23, 2006, at 1:10 PM, Voll, Scott wrote:
>
> Wes, Ryan, or Kevin like to chime in?
> _
> Scott
> _
> PS._ I'm with you all
> _
>
> From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio
> Fulgenzi
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:21 AM
> To: Matt Slaga (US); Seth Call; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
> _
> You have to remember that some people are doing in-house management,
> so more work equals less $$.
> _
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Network Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Sanity First : Number of days with fewer than
> 50 messages in my inbox at the end of the day:________ 14
> ________________________________________
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| Lelio Fulgenzi 2006-03-23, 8:47 pm |
| I think there should be service parameters for stuff like this. ;)
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Network Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Sanity First : Number of days with fewer than
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----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Thorngren
To: Voll, Scott
Cc: Matt Slaga (US) ; Seth Call ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net ; Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
No, I wouldn't like to chime in ;-)
Actually this URL explains why this feature was added:
http://www.ciscotaccc.com/voice/showcase?case=K91031031
"Unassigned DNs allow customers to continue forwarding to voice mail or another destination for DNs that are no longer assigned to devices. This happens often when employees are reassigned or terminated."
We had requirements from some customers for this type of feature.
HTH,
Kevin
On Mar 23, 2006, at 1:10 PM, Voll, Scott wrote:
Wes, Ryan, or Kevin like to chime in?
Scott
PS. I’m with you all
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:21 AM
To: Matt Slaga (US); Seth Call; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
You have to remember that some people are doing in-house management, so more work equals less $$.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Network Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sanity First : Number of days with fewer than
50 messages in my inbox at the end of the day: 14
----- Original Message -----
From: Matt Slaga (US)
To: Seth Call ; Lelio Fulgenzi ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:31 AM
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
Well, it does create more work for people like us.... That equals $$....
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Seth Call
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 9:25 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
There has to be a good reason for it, but I sure wish I knew what it was… maybe line creation is expensive? And so if you are mucking around with lines and partitions a lot…
I don’t like it either, though
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:20 AM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
ok, who else doesn't like how DNs hang around after you delete them? i can understand an actual deletion, but if i create a DN in partition A and move it to partition B, voila, an unassigned DN in partition A now exists.
ugh.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Network Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
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| Kevin Thorngren 2006-03-23, 8:47 pm |
| Yes, that sounds like it would work just fine. However, we do have
customers that won't make even simple changes like adding a Translation
Pattern to their dial plan without extensive testing. They want to
make sure that their dial plan doesn't break and that there is no
impact on performance.
Kevin
On Mar 23, 2006, at 3:13 PM, Craig M Staffin wrote:
>
> we had the same request and there is a far easier solution
>
> If your DID range is 3400-3600 just create a transform in the
> partition that is for that range that points to VM this will force all
> numbers that are not assigned to go to the VM system. _Even if they
> have never been assigned.
>
> Craig
>
>
>
> Kevin Thorngren <kthorngr@cisco.com>
> Sent by: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
>
> 03/23/2006 01:55 PM
> _ _ _ _
> _ _ _ _ To: _ _ _ _"Voll, Scott" <Scott.Voll@wesd.org>
> _ _ _ _ cc: _ _ _ _cisco-voip@puck.nether.net, "Matt Slaga \(US\)"
> <Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com>
> _ _ _ _ Subject: _ _ _ _Re: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
>
>
>
> No, I wouldn't like to chime in ;-)
>
> Actually this URL explains why this feature was added:
> http://www.ciscotaccc.com/voice/showcase?case=K91031031
>
> "Unassigned DNs allow customers to continue forwarding to voice mail
> or _
> another destination for DNs that are no longer assigned to devices. _
> This happens often when employees are reassigned or terminated."
>
> We had requirements from some customers for this type of feature.
>
> HTH,
> Kevin
> On Mar 23, 2006, at 1:10 PM, Voll, Scott wrote:
>
> management, _
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 2W1
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> _
> it _
> them? _
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| Kevin Thorngren 2006-03-23, 8:47 pm |
| I agree that Unassigned DN's can be a pain. I have run into issues
where I forgot I had added and deleted a DN to only get an error when
adding it again. A service parameter or other mechanism to control
this would be a good idea. I am sure this is said quite often but if
there is something you would like changed work with your cisco account
team to create a feature request for this change. There is no
guarantee that the feature will be added but if multiple customers add
their business case to the feature request then it may help to increase
the chances of implementing the feature. Being a cisco employee, there
is not much pull I have with development :-)
Kevin
On Mar 23, 2006, at 3:28 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> I think there should be service parameters for stuff like this. ;)
> _
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Network Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Sanity First : Number of days with fewer than
> 50 messages in my inbox at the end of the day:________ 14
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| Lelio Fulgenzi 2006-03-23, 8:47 pm |
| No offense to anyone on the list (or to my account team) but putting a FR forward seems to be a fruitless endeavour. No feed back whatsoever on the status of them or even if they are even entered in the system. Very dissappointing in that respect.
I look towards CIPTUG for feaure requests. It seems a little more 'structured' over there.
I also think it seems silly to have to ask for a feature request for something that is obviously a fix. In this case, not so much, but forwarding secondary lines in particular. Especially when that has been filed as a bug for four years.
serenity now
serenity now
serenity now
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Network Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sanity First : Number of days with fewer than
50 messages in my inbox at the end of the day: 14
----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Thorngren
To: Lelio Fulgenzi
Cc: Matt Slaga (US) ; Seth Call ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net ; Voll, Scott
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
I agree that Unassigned DN's can be a pain. I have run into issues where I forgot I had added and deleted a DN to only get an error when adding it again. A service parameter or other mechanism to control this would be a good idea. I am sure this is said quite often but if there is something you would like changed work with your cisco account team to create a feature request for this change. There is no guarantee that the feature will be added but if multiple customers add their business case to the feature request then it may help to increase the chances of implementing the feature. Being a cisco employee, there is not much pull I have with development :-)
Kevin
On Mar 23, 2006, at 3:28 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
I think there should be service parameters for stuff like this. ;)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Network Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
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----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Thorngren
To: Voll, Scott
Cc: Matt Slaga (US) ; Seth Call ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net ; Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
No, I wouldn't like to chime in ;-)
Actually this URL explains why this feature was added:
http://www.ciscotaccc.com/voice/showcase?case=K91031031
"Unassigned DNs allow customers to continue forwarding to voice mail or another destination for DNs that are no longer assigned to devices. This happens often when employees are reassigned or terminated."
We had requirements from some customers for this type of feature.
HTH,
Kevin
On Mar 23, 2006, at 1:10 PM, Voll, Scott wrote:
Wes, Ryan, or Kevin like to chime in?
Scott
PS. I’m with you all
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:21 AM
To: Matt Slaga (US); Seth Call; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
You have to remember that some people are doing in-house management, so more work equals less $$.
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Network Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
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----- Original Message -----
From: Matt Slaga (US)
To: Seth Call ; Lelio Fulgenzi ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:31 AM
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
Well, it does create more work for people like us.... That equals $$....
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Seth Call
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 9:25 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
There has to be a good reason for it, but I sure wish I knew what it was… maybe line creation is expensive? And so if you are mucking around with lines and partitions a lot…
I don’t like it either, though
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:20 AM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
ok, who else doesn't like how DNs hang around after you delete them? i can understand an actual deletion, but if i create a DN in partition A and move it to partition B, voila, an unassigned DN in partition A now exists.
ugh.
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| Philip Walenta 2006-03-23, 8:47 pm |
| Also keep in mind, this has changed significantly in 5.x. DN's are
essentially separate now from the phones (unless something changed since
early on).
When I first saw CM 5, you had to create the DN's under the route menu, then
assign them to a phone. If you deleted the phone, the DN still appeared in
the DN list, and had to be deleted separately, but at least it was visible
all the time.
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From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 3:05 PM
To: Kevin Thorngren
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net; Voll, Scott; Matt Slaga (US)
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
No offense to anyone on the list (or to my account team) but putting a FR
forward seems to be a fruitless endeavour. No feed back whatsoever on the
status of them or even if they are even entered in the system. Very
dissappointing in that respect.
I look towards CIPTUG for feaure requests. It seems a little more
'structured' over there.
I also think it seems silly to have to ask for a feature request for
something that is obviously a fix. In this case, not so much, but forwarding
secondary lines in particular. Especially when that has been filed as a bug
for four years.
serenity now
serenity now
serenity now
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(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
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----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin <mailto:kthorngr@cisco.com> Thorngren
To: Lelio Fulgenzi <mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca>
Cc: Matt Slaga (US) <mailto:Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com> ; Seth Call
<mailto:scall@metreos.com> ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net ; Voll, Scott
<mailto:Scott.Voll@wesd.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
I agree that Unassigned DN's can be a pain. I have run into issues where I
forgot I had added and deleted a DN to only get an error when adding it
again. A service parameter or other mechanism to control this would be a
good idea. I am sure this is said quite often but if there is something you
would like changed work with your cisco account team to create a feature
request for this change. There is no guarantee that the feature will be
added but if multiple customers add their business case to the feature
request then it may help to increase the chances of implementing the
feature. Being a cisco employee, there is not much pull I have with
development :-)
Kevin
On Mar 23, 2006, at 3:28 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
I think there should be service parameters for stuff like this. ;)
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Network Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
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----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Thorngren
To: Voll, Scott
Cc: Matt Slaga (US) ; Seth Call ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net ; Lelio
Fulgenzi
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
No, I wouldn't like to chime in ;-)
Actually this URL explains why this feature was added:
http://www.ciscotaccc.com/voice/showcase?case=K91031031
"Unassigned DNs allow customers to continue forwarding to voice mail or
another destination for DNs that are no longer assigned to devices. This
happens often when employees are reassigned or terminated."
We had requirements from some customers for this type of feature.
HTH,
Kevin
On Mar 23, 2006, at 1:10 PM, Voll, Scott wrote:
Wes, Ryan, or Kevin like to chime in?
Scott
PS. I'm with you all
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:21 AM
To: Matt Slaga (US); Seth Call; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
You have to remember that some people are doing in-house management, so more
work equals less $$.
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Network Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
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----- Original Message -----
From: Matt Slaga (US)
To: Seth Call ; Lelio Fulgenzi ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:31 AM
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
Well, it does create more work for people like us.... That equals $$....
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Seth Call
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 9:25 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
There has to be a good reason for it, but I sure wish I knew what it was.
maybe line creation is expensive? And so if you are mucking around with
lines and partitions a lot.
I don't like it either, though
From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:20 AM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] unassigned DNs in 4.x
ok, who else doesn't like how DNs hang around after you delete them? i can
understand an actual deletion, but if i create a DN in partition A and move
it to partition B, voila, an unassigned DN in partition A now exists.
ugh.
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Network Analyst (CCS) * university of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
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